Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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03-03-2009, 06:16 PM
ether.real

Has anyone tried running the 6GB Patriots on this board? I have two kits that I have been pulling my hair out with. I am talking about the PVT36G1600LLK kit....Not a single stick out of six will run stable at rated speeds/timings....
03-03-2009, 07:14 PM
nipper575

I have 6GB of patriot installed on my motherboard. It's running at 1660Mhz @ 1.6v, ~1.32 Uncore (I think???). Passes memtest, IBT, Prime95 (blend) with flying colours. It is only with the final F5 bios that I have been able to get this Ram running at above 1333MHz without the double boot problem. Also the Patriot XMP profiles don't show up on the EX58-Extreme, Patriot know of this problem as I have been speaking to them about it. This is what they told me

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"Be very honest with you we can’t wait for Gigabyte to fix the issue with the BIOS so we have also been working to see if we can get around and fix the gigabyte issue by changing around some settings in the module eeprom. We have developed a new eeprom program that gets around the Gigabyte issue.

I’ll be more then happy to reprogram your modules and test to make sure it is bypassing the Gigabyte issue with XMP.

Only problem is that I would have to send my RAM to America (I live in Australia) and I would be without a computer. It's not like I need the XMP profiles anyway, it's not like it's hard to set it manually.
03-03-2009, 08:06 PM
EtherWind

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Many folks have had trouble ocing with 3x2GB, at least you now have a procedure that works.
Try not to use auto settings - you want to set these values - not leave them up to the bios to estimate for you what is best that way you KNOW what the values are.
Uncore looks nice and low for ocing - is this 2x memory plus one click up?
Do you get better oc results turning off eist, c1e, c3, ... many folks have found they can oc higher if they turn all this off - the downside is your idle temps are usually a bit higher particularly at much higher cpu volts.
After you get your oc stable with 3gb and add back in the other 6 can you then adjust back down your timings?
If you have xmp capable memory try runing just that xmp memory, turn on xmp and see what ET6 says your voltages are at - this gives you an idea of what mem and qpi volts the memory manufacturer wants you to run when at xmp speeds.
All your voltages are nice and low - should help you keep your cpu nice and cool!
Downside is increased oc at these voltages can be had only by a very few i7s. , certainly not mine.

Yep, its Uncore at 2x Mem + 1 click.
I disabled a few more of the options, leaving on C1 and MT only for now.
I was able to adjust my timings down and then back up to 3.6 and then up again to 3.66 and then 3.8 on a slightly higher voltage of 1.325 with the Gskill in place, so perhaps my move to 6a has helped with overall stability. Im almost getting bold enough to try to push higher with the full set of RAM to see how high I can go, but after months of frustration, no more double boot errors and all that riot, I am finally happy with my machine and don't want to tinker that much more! Thanks again for the help to get me back up and oC'ing again :up:
03-03-2009, 10:08 PM
Fafeifa

Does anybody experience a vdrop in the CPU with the F6A bios. Oh BTW is a UD5 board
03-04-2009, 01:13 AM
Simfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipper575

I have 6GB of patriot installed on my motherboard. It's running at 1660Mhz @ 1.6v, ~1.32 Uncore (I think???). Passes memtest, IBT, Prime95 (blend) with flying colours. It is only with the final F5 bios that I have been able to get this Ram running at above 1333MHz without the double boot problem. Also the Patriot XMP profiles don't show up on the EX58-Extreme, Patriot know of this problem as I have been speaking to them about it. This is what they told me

Only problem is that I would have to send my RAM to America (I live in Australia) and I would be without a computer. It's not like I need the XMP profiles anyway, it's not like it's hard to set it manually.

XMP works okay with the Corsair on the Extreme........
03-04-2009, 02:05 AM
Villainstone

Hey fellas does any one suppose that this could be a useful thread for me? I am using a UD4P with little OCing luck. I do not want to waste any ones time here and that is the point of asking. Is there enough similarities between the two boards to make use of this thread?
03-04-2009, 05:16 AM
nipper575

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simfan

XMP works okay with the Corsair on the Extreme........

I didn't say no XMP profiles work with the EX58-Extreme, I said

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipper575

Also the Patriot XMP profiles don't show up on the EX58-Extreme, Patriot know of this problem as I have been speaking to them about it.
03-04-2009, 05:47 AM
LazyBum

XMP profiles work really good on the OCZ sticks that come with them too.
Unfortunately my luck of the draw with the CPU wasn't as good, seems this one hits a BCLK wall above 190, more voltage doesn't even help. Maybe with HT off I could squeeze 10 more out of it, but the tradeoff isn't worth it for me.
03-04-2009, 06:43 AM
Simfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipper575

I didn't say no XMP profiles work with the EX58-Extreme, I said

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that they were suggesting that it was an MB problem.
03-04-2009, 07:31 AM
hlonipha

So far I'm having better results with F6C. I'm at 196x21 20 passes of max memory load intel burntest @1.36v will try some lower volts tonight. Temps are 73-75c maxon air.
03-04-2009, 09:23 AM
GAR

IM using F5 official, loving it so far.
03-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Villainstone

Can anyone give me some feedback. It always seems that I get ignored on the site LOL. Seriously though I never seem to get straight answers around here. I guess I am just too spoiled from the guys over at OCN LOL. They know me over there so maybe that has something to do with it.
03-04-2009, 12:51 PM
TimoneX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villainstone

Hey fellas does any one suppose that this could be a useful thread for me? I am using a UD4P with little OCing luck. I do not want to waste any ones time here and that is the point of asking. Is there enough similarities between the two boards to make use of this thread?

There's tons of useful info in this thread for us UD4P users. I've been going over this dictionary sized book of a thread for the last month, time permitting.
03-04-2009, 03:13 PM
dennismagic

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

So far I'm having better results with F6C. I'm at 196x21 20 passes of max memory load intel burntest @1.36v will try some lower volts tonight. Temps are 73-75c maxon air.

Thanks for your F6c report^^
03-04-2009, 06:57 PM
Splave

what are you guys' max bclk? I hit a brick wall at 222 which is 4ghz qpi link speed. Freezes immediately
03-04-2009, 06:58 PM
nipper575

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simfan

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that they were suggesting that it was an MB problem.

no probs:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

IM using F5 official, loving it so far.

me too !!!
03-04-2009, 07:45 PM
silverfox71

f6d

It seems that the f6c and f6d are more stable with my chip than most of the other bios updates. I have also found that f4j and m also work alright just not as easy to get a stable over clock. Right now I am running 193x21 @ 1.5125v in bios. Still trying to get the best possible cpu score on 3dmark 06. I put this chip onto a EVGA EX58 Board and got some pretty good numbers on the cpu. I am still having problems duplicating that on the ex58-Extreme:confused:
03-04-2009, 07:51 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villainstone

Can anyone give me some feedback. It always seems that I get ignored on the site LOL. Seriously though I never seem to get straight answers around here. I guess I am just too spoiled from the guys over at OCN LOL. They know me over there so maybe that has something to do with it.

Whatcha need man, ask away.
03-04-2009, 07:52 PM
road-runner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

what are you guys' max bclk? I hit a brick wall at 222 which is 4ghz qpi link speed. Freezes immediately

On DICE mine was 222 x 21 boot, would not boot at 223 no matter what I did.
03-05-2009, 02:37 AM
C3D76

For your infos:

Q-Flash seems to be buggy with F6d.

I tried to revert back to an older BIOS, and System hangs after new Bios verification (just before being able to accept the Flash).
@Bios fixed it for me, but awdflash on a bootable CD should also work in case...
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ex58...ta-bios-30800/
03-05-2009, 05:54 AM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by road-runner

On DICE mine was 222 x 21 boot, would not boot at 223 no matter what I did.

exactly, pretty messed right? Something with the QPI link speed breaking 4ghz
03-05-2009, 09:00 AM
hlonipha

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennismagic

Thanks for your F6c report^^

Well spoke too soon, my bios (F6C) went nuts last night. I.E

It started to give me checksum errors and on a black screen weird characters and a non stopping dash accross the screen. I flashed back to F5G the systems went to black screen and gave me the message of rebuilding bios once that finished it rebooted itself and all was fine. uppsssss I thought I lost the board.

back to F5G with 200x21 HT on 1.39v load
03-05-2009, 09:53 AM
EtherWind

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlonipha

Well spoke too soon, my bios (F6C) went nuts last night. I.E

It started to give me checksum errors and on a black screen weird characters and a non stopping dash accross the screen. I flashed back to F5G the systems went to black screen and gave me the message of rebuilding bios once that finished it rebooted itself and all was fine. uppsssss I thought I lost the board.

back to F5G with 200x21 HT on 1.39v load

YIKES! :eek:
Thanks for letting us know. I've been flashing almost every beta released over the past couple of months trying to get things ironed out. Now that everything is stable, figure I will stick with 6a unless some significant reason to change presents itself.
03-05-2009, 10:29 AM
Hornet331

I still wait for a bios beside F4j where S3 works with oc. :D

I hope F6e fix this annoying error.
03-05-2009, 10:44 AM
Fafeifa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villainstone

Hey fellas does any one suppose that this could be a useful thread for me? I am using a UD4P with little OCing luck. I do not want to waste any ones time here and that is the point of asking. Is there enough similarities between the two boards to make use of this thread?

Yes the UD4P has the same options in the bios. I've used that board to build a system for a friend, and myself i'm using the UD5P. I think the UD4P is a great board and was able to clock 4.0Ghz stable, which i am not able to do with this board yet :shrug:

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