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Originally Posted by uwackme
uwackme , I can tell you the NF4 Raid/SATA 2 controller is damn fast. I currently have a gigabyte sli setup (Dual Rapors 36GB Raid 0) and it blew away my previous setups. The bandwidth increase was extreme. Sequential reads went up (for me) 10-15 mb/sec in my hdtest program. My Atto disk bench went up in reads and writes about 10 mb/s average also. I would assume the DFI would do similar as it is the same chipset.
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the chipset cooler is a bit wobbly, but silent
my new gskill 2x512 LA (431) can do 300mhz at 2,5-3-3-6-10 1T
i haven´t tried to push it higher
my cpu (3200+ week33) is so sweat, but weak :(
i can´t boot at 2700mhz (270x10 and 300x9 is not possible)
so i only did some benches at 260x10, but there will be a little more power on cpu and ram than i´ve tested.
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/2600@32pi.jpg
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/sandra.jpg
don´t forget, this is not the max power and i´m still a a64 nooby :D
but theese are the only screenshots i´ve made
i only tested with the boxed cooler, because i was too lazzy to install my watercool setup this evening
:D Well done- first impressions of OC - und natürlich aus D !!! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
i was very sad about the bad cpu, but you cannot have everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
if i have enough time tomorrow i´ll go on testing
from the dfi-forum:
Angry_Games:Quote:
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I just found 2 shops in Germany that have the DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-D (NOT SLI-DR !!) already in stock !!!!
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no you didnt. We have not released the boards at all. No one has them and if they do, they need to be recalled ASAP.
:confused: A recall of the boards that just been released?
What in hell does that mean? Is Angrygames drunken.......... :dammit:
if you read the entire thread, you can see that there was a last minute change to the board and its shipping BIOS, i believe.
What Angry_Games is saying is that if indeed the shops have the boards, they are not the changed ones, hence, they should not be sold as official release boards.
He stated the shipping dates of the official release boards somewhere in that thread.
JazzMang Out.
this is going to be interesting - unreleased boards in retail? Wonder what the real deal is...
I dont think Angry_Games works for DFI... I might be wrong, he certainly knows his stuff. But it's obvious in some parts of the world, this motherboard is out and for sale. So... someone is getting some bad info somewhere, might be the retailers, might be Angry_Games himself. Who knows.
All I know is if I saw one on the street right now, I'd buy it and not worry about whatever the small change was they made.
a_g does work for dfi afaik but since he's human, he can make mistakes. if he were cylon, it might be different...
EDIT: yes i meant dfi, not msi
You mean DFIQuote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
In case anyone is interested....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=6739702659
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AG works for dfi..at least thats what his webpage says.
yes,
Angry works for DFI. He is a mod and is a very frequent helper over at DFI-Street's forums.
Over at DFI-Street, they are talking about the mobos on ebay as well... many people think that the boards that we are seeing for sale today are the pre-release version of the boards which lack the last-moment modification described by Vivian, who works for DFI (see DFI-Street's NF4-SLI thread).
I wouldn't buy those pre-release boards for that much! I'd rather wait for the real deal myself.
JazzMang Out.
can u describe what u mean with "wobbly"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
dont really understand
if you push with your finger on the cooler, below the fan, then the whole cooler moves at this place down to the board and the opposite site moves upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mastakilla
v (finger)
_________________ (cooler)
-------------------------- (board)
now this happens wehen you touch the cooler at this place
it moves up at the other side
________---------- (cooler)
-------------------------- (board)
i think that the feathers aren´t strong enough to reach enough pressure
Guys i can answer a few questions here as my debugging of the board lead to the bios and the mods AG has described.
The boards are having a few components changed to improve ram overclocking and compatibility. A new bios was written to overcome an issue i found working with DFI which is the main reason AG has stated all boards released early are not final release.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU TO WAIT FOR OFFICIAL BOARDS they will clock ram better and they come with the latest official bios. if your board comes with 121 or earlier I strongly suggest you flash it at once to the 126 or later.
Now i don't know how these pre release boards are hitting stores, i would wait to see DFI press releases etc and know your getting a latest spec board.
Tony
Good to know Tony, thanks. I hope the board I get is an OFFICIAL with the changes.
Is there any way to check to see besides the bios revision?
Could you possibly be more descriptive on which components were changed?
I can't as i don't know all the specs on the changes, I know my board here has half the changes it needs and will be going back for the other half ;)
Guys, maybe a stupid question, but I don´t see any SLI conector with nF4Ultra bundle, I will get this board next week and I´m still thinking about doing it a full SLI board. :D
Finally good mobo and not piece of junk like the A8N SLI Deluxe, which burned me last week :mad: even without any OC´in. The layout of ASUS is the best when compared to other nF4 boards, but that "reliability" really makes me pissed off.
Tony, on DFI's official website bios 1.25 is the official bios and 1.26 is the beta. Are you saying official boards will be flashed with the beta? Or is 1.26 actually the official release? Thanks.
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heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
COOL explenation man!
really wanne get rid of that cooler
hope 1A-cooling reacts positive to my request for a compatible NB block :)
:D Do You all still believe in St. Clauss ???
If it only were a BIOS bug there is no need to stop release - BIOS can be flashed easily, someone here can tell the truth ???
:slapass: :cord:
Regarding to the new BIOS (126), it boost 50Mhz more for my board comparing with the old BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
The DFI boards were out for sale since 2 days ago in Hong Kong and I think they all came with BIOS dated Jan 19. The latest beta BIOS dated Jan 26 does give huge improvement in terms of RAM clocking. Managed to go beyond DDR600 which was not possible with Jan 19 BIOS while I know for sure my RAM can handle that on MSI K8N Diamond. LOL, the latest BIOS rocks!!! :banana:
Read my post m8, i just said there are component changes to be made...this is the truth. If you want to make more of it then go for it...i know the truth as I was part of why the boards are being altered.Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
As far as i know 125 is a rough and 126 was a recompile of the same bios...so how you see higher clocks i don't know :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexwai
The changes made to 125 and 126 are very important and its a must you all run these files or later when the boards hit the shelves.
The ultra will NOT ship with a SLI bridge.
Yes, it is truth and thanks for you link. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
Those boards will not have the hardware changes to make them even better....why do boards always leak out early :confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
on dfi-street.com:
[QUOTE]In response to questions from your Forum readers I am posting the latest info I have from DFI on the release of the new nF4 boards:
"I have just received the final revisions to both boards and DFI has not altered the Ultra design - it still includes 2 x16 PCIe slots and is still the same PCB as the SLI design. The AnandTech review is scheduled to appear on Tuesday, February 1, and New Egg and others should start receiving retail boards on Tuesday or Wednesday also.
DFI did change some 20 components on the board that greatly improves memory compatability. Testers found the initial board was very good with Samsung TCCD but not so good with Hynix and some other memories. The new revisions work well with any of the common memories in the market and the board also overclocks even better than the initial release. We are told DFI has modified all boards, so only the new revision will appear in the retail channel."QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
THNX for the info, but, if someone mod the Ultra board to full SLI, there should be some SLI improvement, the question is, how can this board handle full SLI potential, if the bridge is needed to connect 2 cards into the full SLI system, there won´t be any improvement at all and it shouldn´t work, right?
Or just to buy or get anywhere the SLI bridge?
:D SRY man - my eyes ran to fast, did't see that part of Ya post.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
So we're talking about hardware modifications - nothing to do with BIOS - how can I recognise if my board is a modified ?
I mean if I get a "before release board" and flash BIOS to 1.26 it will be not the same as I'd get a modified board.
So BIOS version is not the right tool to see what board I'll get.
:toast:
Don't know about that. And please don't take this the wrong way, Tony. I don't doubt you, okay? FYI: I learned from the local Authorized Distributor that the second batch of shipment is going out from DFI Taiwan today and will arrive early next week. Why on earth DFI keeps shipping out the boards if there will be hardware changes required?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
The highest FSB for the old BIOS was 280 while it is 286 in BIOS 126. All testing config are the same. I have been using A64 3000+.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Tony, if we get a board with bios 1.25 or 1.26 will we be ok? Does that mean we will get an "official board"? Anything ealrier (bios wise) means it wasn't updated? Just clarifying. Thank you,
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:confused: What about the serial number, a from - to for non official boards would help !!!
:toast:
Guys, I emailed tech support at DFI and Mr. Frank Wong gave me some good info. If you can check boards available in your area for what he states. Here's his reply...
XXXX,
Please check the bar code sticker on the edge of the last PCI slot when you receive the board. On the bottom right of the sticker, there’ll have something like R.A00, R.AB0…to indicate the revision of the board. The R.A00 or R.AB0 stands for the revision A. that’s a final release board. If it lists R.PR22 or R.PR with different #, that’s an engineer sample. We are not allowed to sell engineer samples to customers.
Frank
Frank Wong
Technical Support Manager
DFI San Jose
I want to thank Frank for his clarification. Now anyone with a board check it!
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good info.
But, I hope that's not a general DFI rule that does not apply for this specific board. You know, it was a very last minute changes, right?
Anyway, I am happy for now since I saw this on mine. :banana:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun//Picture-014s.JPG
I guess we would need DFI to tell us otherwise. But they aren't talking :stick: (except for Frank :D ). But I think you should be ok. BTW, how's yours clocking atm? I guess it doesn't matter if your performance is good! :toast:
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It's a very nice board. My RAMs are doing better on this board than any others I've tried. My OCZ VX can do 260 for the very first time. The new BIOS really gave a big boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...cz-vx-260s.jpg
The word i have is boards are being modified and have been for 2 days or so. So the situation is this....if you jump now and get a board with 121 or earlier bios you got an old one.If you get a board with 126 bios and the package is sealed you got a fully finalised board which is good to go. Most boards will hit the stores in a few days so again i would look for the official stores to have official boards.
If you have a board that came with 119 bios etc that will probably not have all the hardware changes etc....once you flash you will have a good board but it won't be as good as the later ones.
Lasly you must flash to the 126 bios to get the board overclocking better.
Oh, Thanks for the cold shower Tony. That's okay though. At worst, just buy another board. Luckily that is the cheapest component in the whole setup. :D
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Originally Posted by H2OGun
I thought only R.A00 and R.AB0 were the fianl ones? :confused:
I take it that anything start with R.A0# and R.B# are final. The number may indicate minor revision or something. The email only mentioned that R.PR22 or R.PR are pre-release.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Anyway, there is no point arguing about this though since we may never know the truth. I own the board already and if necessary, I will own a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of the same board. Heck, I just spent >$1000 for 2 x 6800U. What's $150 compared to that, right? I know a lot people took a plunge with an even worse board (A8N anyone?)
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
Tony, does DFI use Winflash or its own inhouse equivalent? Or do we use the old floppy>boot>exe.>bam method?
I'm going to wait awhile before I buy a board. Make sure the initial ones are sold out so the next shipment will definately be the finalised board. I just know I will buy one and it won't be the latest. I'd be pissed.
wise wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
you can use winflash or awdflash...i flash off a cdrom now and its all good ;)
any ideas ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeachKEN
Tony, are you able to try the DXG ?
Your board maybe ok here, the 126 is a very good bios and does improve the ram overclocking.
I don't think many boards are out there that are not finals so we are probably being paranoid here.
:D What a crazy kind of panic - I never heard of something else like this.
So it's good to know we're at a point we all can identify the boards we will get - nice !!! THX all people who worked out !!!
But one question will be unanswered: Who will loose his job at DFI for sending away boards which should have never come into the stores......:cord:
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I know I am.... being paranoid that is. Tony, to get 3.5v on your VX like you stated in your tests what did you need your 3.3v rail at at your psu? Does it fluctuate or dip at all? I ask because unlike others powerstreams that seem to get 3.8+v on their 3.3v rail mine maxes out at 3.67 and even that is borderline. The psu is shutting itself down at those volts. =(. I was hoping for more to get at least 3.6v on my VX.
I thought the 3.3v-3.8v was part of the specs? Why is mine undercutting?
:confused: Hm, maybe I don't understand but why don't Ya use the 5-V-rail to get 3,6 for Ya RAM - Ya know the jumper ???Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
:toast:
Well everyone is saying it gets mega hot. If something doesn't fail at first it may down the road and positioning a fan in the needed area would be hard.
:D Nah - MOSFETS only get extremly hot if Ya use the 5-V-rail and give less than 3,3 to Ya RAM, 3,6 will be O.K.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I use the booster on a NEO2 and pluged in my BH-5 3 days ago, they're running with 3,9 Vdimm for that time. Booster uses the same tecnology than DFI on it's boards.
Have a 120mm fan blowing to the RAM area - try to mount it with a clip at one of Ya HDD cases. I use a clip which Ya find normally in restaurants to fix the papers on the tables, that clip Ya can mount with a screw to Ya fan and then Ya can clip it at the wall of Ya HDD case.
There are two kinds of that clips - the better ones have a feather of steel in it so they can fit tighter than the plastic clips.
Try it - it works !!!
:toast:
I wonder 1 thing :
Can the Ultra-D final released mod to turn SLI ?
Maybe DFI delay the release day to modify the Ultra chipset and cant mod to SLI anymore ?
:D That might be - but if the old MOD doesn't work anymore someone will find a new........ :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
Hope so :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
But without the SLI-Bridge ( from Bigtoe ) can we still run DXG :confused:
:D Don't get mad on that SLI bridge - after a while I guess You'll be able to buy it in the shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
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