heh, heh...that instapak system is way cool! Nice to see you are as careful with packaging as you are with design and build!
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heh, heh...that instapak system is way cool! Nice to see you are as careful with packaging as you are with design and build!
wow jinu you make these things look like more and more of a bargain.
still haven't successfully used my VapoLi(killed my mobo during insulation), yet, i still think of it as part of the family...works of art if you ask me
This one is for Complete :) I know you are getting anxious after the delay and the problem I had with startup unit. Well, it's breezed through last minute check and ready to be packed :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9084.JPG
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9085.JPG
One quirk with this unit. Froster read temp about 12c higher than it should. So I put appropirate offset for the system.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9080
I've always had 3-5c variance between frosters but this goes to extreme on this one.
Looking good!! Cant wait!
Jinu117 - God i hope that picture is deciving. Remember all those Dimensions I gave you. :)
But I am sure its alll good!
I got my DLH tracking number! How long does it take usually to Ohio? I just realized I live 5 minutes from OPB!! hahah..
GO BUCKEYES!
Bit of update. Vapochill LS mod is getting prepped up, 2 v2000 builds are in progress (need to extend load testing and put it in case), one v2000 build is progressing smoothly.
I was hoping to get bit more done this weekend but something else came up and took priority. I found out my 4 axis CNC mill is going to hit home monday (coming monday) and considering the weight of machine, I decided I better make bench for it before it hits here. (Abuse the driver to help me putting it up on mill bench).
Ended up doing more wood working than phasework this weekend...
Bunch of 3/4" plywood stuck together and 4x4 woods for leg. I might put additional torsional rigidity on it by putting bracing wood of 2x4 if i need it.
I don't expect to have the machine running anytime soon as I need to get some units out first and it will be an hour there and here as well as getting proper sized endmill, vise, etc.
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http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9092.JPG
Slotted using router on last pic for plexi shield to be inserted and inside area is all fiberglass lined and curing... I probably won't paint it since I don't know the chemical reaction between the particular coolant and paints...
From Jin's place to my home in CT, it only took 3-5 days, with a stop in the midwest, so you should get it pretty soon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete
looks like you are building a small factory there!!:) looks good. i was thinking you were getting a floor model. post pics when you get it!
hope mine is the one that is progressing :D . j/k good to see you got the room to work now.
No actually, I really don't now after this working on phase and wood at same time :) I am going to take rest of night cleaning up and reorganizing to clean the place up. I should feel really fresh working on remaining unit tomorrrow morning :) (or dead tired)Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyz
oh... I forgot to add, the cascade is in leak test phase again Gary :)
Hey Jin, ants are lazy compared to you. You work very hard. Can t wait to see the baby!
BTW: my uncle ( the one that lives in SJC )has an old 1980 Fadal ( CNC ) he has managed to connect it via RS 232 to a comp.
Looking good Jin :) I can't wait to not only pick up my unit but also to meet the man and see the "assembly line". I am fortunate enough to live only 45 min away no shipping! :p:
Wow, it looks like there are a lot of people that have units being built. Jin, I sent you an email inquiring about my Vapo LS a few days ago and never got a response. Please keep me posted on any updates you may have.
I am not getting worried, just really excited, and bored with a 6700 that doesnt want to clock on air. lol
Thanks. :)
Heh... sorry for the long delay. I just had to get things out of way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dominick32
It is getting to last phase of testing as I write this. Basically load testing. Actually all 4 units that are being worked on at the moment are alternating between load tester and idling to go through thermal cycling.
Thanks a million Jin!!!
I absolutely cannot wait to get this unit back.
Please post pics and temp improvements if possible so I can salivate for the next couple of days until the unit comes back. :D
Thanks again!!
Done bit differently in tuning for dominick's request for colder temperature. Compressor do run 5c-10c warmer than my typical build but temp is lower. It still runs cooler than it used to be so I suppose that would be within safe range :)
First of all, I need to emphasize again on shipping when sending me an unit for repair. I found this out today when I was putting things back in case after final testing... but back was vent (it was shipped in original astek box) fan grill was bent (and no it isn't that easy to bend it), and fan support column and back fan blade was broken off. Thankfully I do have spare grills and had spare fan that read RPM handy. So no further delays.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9139.JPG
Unfortunately my spare chill control passed away and I have no way to really run it other than hot wiring for now so that's what you will see with both fans powered by 12v psu and compressor just straight connected to ac main.
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And here are some pics of final testing.
#1. no load
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9140.JPG
#2. 70 watt load. Which I think lot of time it will be at.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9137.JPG
#3. 150watt load.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9132.JPG
#4. 180watt load.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9130.JPG
I really didn't want to push beyond that point as compressor was very hot (up to 75c on prolonged 180w testing) on this unit.
Typical vapochill LS mod, you can expect about 2-3c temp difference from what you saw with idle more in range of -50 to -55c. While compressor running about 5-10c cooler.
I wonder what kind of temp this will read in chill control.... -_-; as I did my last tuning today without one.
Suggestion for this one, if you plan to put some load on it, I suggest turning the fan all the way up :) it's tuned for that.
Enjoy :)
Jin,
Absolutely awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot wait to get this unit back. Just for a comparison.
Jin has tuned my unit to -59.9*C idle.
Before his modifications my idle was probed at -24*C idle and read -25.5*C idle in the Asus P5B-Deluxe bios. That would be a decrease in temperature of almost 35 degrees:banana: :banana:
Did you mesure with the Ls display or ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dominick32
Two idle measurements:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
1. With my cousins fluke.
2. Asus P5B-Deluxe bios reading.
The fluke being a little warmer than the Asus bios. I think my Vapo may have been a tad weaker than normal. And no, the LS display is BS!!! LOL
Wait a second... asus probe is reading something else :) Vapochill LS AFAIK idles around -45c to -50c itself. It's the load that kills the unit. On same location to read temp 150w would make the unit read somewhere in - 25-28c. This is the major part of improvement the modification is for (yes you do get better idle temp too but after all good load temp is what makes overclock happen :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by dominick32
PS) hmm you posted before me... Maybe the unit was underperforming to begin with...? Anyways... lemme call you up.
I know Jin. I was just very impressed in how much you got the idle down. The load is even more remarkable because the loaded temps @ 180 watts are lower than my idle temps before the mod... Its incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
I thank you again!!!
Edit* Come to think of it my idle temperature readings we taken @ 1.62 vcore and 4.2 Ghz on my e6600 conroe. That would definitely create a -24*C idle dont you think? Heck of an improvement none the less Jin!!!!
JINU!
I recieved the unit today at lunch. WHAT is all this stuff!! Do you have some kinda guide? LOL.
I have read all the forums stickies on installing Phase. And you got some stuff in here that I dont know about.
But Looks good. Havent tested it..or anything, but nothing looks damaged.
Anyways, I am going to need alot.. of help !
Didn't get a phone call or pm from you after our discussion which makes me believe you are blasting away... ? :)
A lot happened in last few days... :)
Another 2 V2000 is completed completed. One is already picked up by local customer and the other one is packed yesterday but still haven't shipped (my apology) My internet and phone and cable (gotta love it when you get all 3 together) ALL went down from midnight to about 2:30pm today.
V2000 for SilveradoJ442... :) I only found 1 pic I made for him... duh. Was so busy I forgot to take some pics I wanted to... pretty standard the fair except I am starting to use bit different looping on v2000 from now on. which you will see on another unit below. This one has 2 x 120mm fan hole for BIP :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9167.JPG
This is one that goes out to Rob725.
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Notice something new? :) YES. I started labeling the wires for easier installation. Thanks to suggestion from few of my current customers, it sometimes is hard to see what customer has problem with from my end. Keep the feedbacks rolling in so I can better service you guys :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9183
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9184
Now, if you remembered, I did get my cnc mill in monday last week. Since I did have to get the units out, I delayed it till sunday morning to put it up. Only thing is, I hired 3 hispanic people on street to lift the damn thing up (about 400lbs or so), and guess what I got with this...
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About 1/4 inch deep cut. The guys really didn't have any strength despite their bulk... -_-; I mean, it only is 100lbs each side and they couldn't really do good job... I should have bought hydraulic crane instead and should have soloed damned thing... (I already have lift table so it wasn't going to be too hard soloing but I couldn't justfiy taking more space with such tool).
Anyways, it was clean cut and started mending real quick. In fact, I am doing much better now. As long as I don't have to put too much strength on the finger, it isn't "leaking" any more blood, etc. Bit of throbbing but I am used to pain I guess :)
Kind of cleaned up the shop area... need more cleaning done and will do so shortly but I figured it is about time I showed you guys where i moved :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9171
general view... :)
First workbench on left is my quick component testing/used to be benching station... 15" lcd sitting there for easy hookup keyboard, mouse, bench station, etc. I need to put a server machine for my primary job related stuff under it when I get time... have a 1U server sitting in office which I don't want to hear when I am working on things.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9175
Well this is solder station and supply storage area :) I also use empty space in front of it for a lot of little things I do when I don't want to do it close to my main work area.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9173
General work area. Mostly do last evac, load testing, wiring, finalizing system, etc. Got this from Costco and they are great deal!!! much sturdier than any i've seen short of industrial duty ones.
On the back you see additional shelvings for bunch of stuff I use. I haven't quite figured out how to make insulation storage easier... working on it :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9174
Tools area. most hand tools reside here. Some supplies too. On left is movable tray with vacuum pump at bottom shelving... this is where i do first 2 evac. kind of like assembly line concept.
To right of it which I forgot to take pic is good old work bench with scroll saw, Drill press and lathe.
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9176
General case storage CNC machine and path way to house and my office.
Another 19" LCD sitting there for the CNC machine (yes overkill) but it's better to re use than sell and buy now a day for this stuff... :)
http://www.vapoli.com/images/Forum/IMG_9177
Bit closer look of CNC bench and machine. yes it is finally up there. (and I found out I need additional braces to stiffen up structure of bench... even 4x4 isn't good enough without cross bracing with over 400lbs on top of it (some side by side play)
Well that's it for now :) Hope you guys finally know where i work in. When I clean up office decently, maybe I will show you where I spend at least 9-10 hours a day... -_- (yes I do work from home for my primary job).
Up and running! Everything is working great! I am typing on it as we speak. I still need to organize a little. Or maybe a lot :) Once I am more comfortable running under phase I will install the watercooling. If anyone is thinking about buying a unit from Jin, he is very helpful and a nice guy and builds an aweome unit! Thank you Jin!
EDIT: Jin take care of that finger, that looked painful!
Here are a few pics too :)
Yes it will be off the dusty floor very soon ;)
http://www.auction-junkie.com/pcstuff/phase0.jpg
http://www.auction-junkie.com/pcstuff/phase1.jpg
And a quick bench
http://www.auction-junkie.com/pcstuff/phase2.jpg