Golden FX-57 dead - another DFI Expert victim?

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12-13-2005, 04:10 AM
gundamit

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Originally Posted by shawn1998

I didn't kill any hardware with mine, the 3 days I had it installed, but I just got an RMA # from DFI a few hours ago. Board wasn't stable running 3d stuff. I've got a thread going on it, so I won't bore with the details.
The board was from Monarch (serial #0000000094). Maybe it was some of the earlier boards that have the issues?
Bottom line is I RMA'd it and got it the heck out of my system before it had a chance to take anything out. It was all at stock, not a bit oc'd.

Shawn

That number is on one of the two stickers on the outside of the box right? Just above the line "Warranty Void If Removed". Is this the actual production number? How is this different from the S/N number on the other sticker?

Hmmm ... just noticed one of my Ultra-D does not have a "Warranty Void If Removed" sticker. WTH? Someone firing up the production lines in the dead of night? Bootleg mobos? Lol. :D
12-13-2005, 05:52 AM
uOpt

I don't want to imply every killing board was a pre-release board nor do I say pre-release boards have to be different from release boards.

I just like to know details, and it is an interesting detail whether OPBs board was a pre-release board or not.

I also happen to notice that OPB did say that he doesn't see a reason to disrecommend the Expert in his thread, but obviously he's not quite that happy with DFI now. (which also brings me back to the question which DFI branch rejected his RMA because of the AS5 on the chipset. If that was DFI USA, aka the same guys who make the AS5-on-chipset guide that would be odd, kinda).
12-13-2005, 06:16 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by mrlobber

Hmm, flashed my Expert to 11/25 beta bios and did the battery removal as well. My Opty 170 is still alive.

maybe removing the battery without setting the cmos jumper to reset causes the problems?

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Originally Posted by perry_78

You are wrong my sauerkraut acquaintance. A decent cope costs my EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION 1000$+ :D

hehe,go ahead then :D

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Originally Posted by Plywood99

Is it me or does that sound like crap? What happens when battery gets old and dies? Oh well power regulation now lost due to dead battery, bye bye cpu...

hey, please calm down... i know this is really upsetting, im sorry for you guys... but please calm down a lil.

imo it does sound odd, but who knows?
and those batteries dont really ever die :D
ive never heard of a cmos battery die, ever...
it takes a long time for the battery to discharge completely when the board has not been powered up at all, a LONG time... months id say, maybe even years...
so i dont think there will be a problem with dead or empty batteries killing boards.

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Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer

I don't want to imply every killing board was a pre-release board nor do I say pre-release boards have to be different from release boards.

I just like to know details, and it is an interesting detail whether OPBs board was a pre-release board or not.

I also happen to notice that OPB did say that he doesn't see a reason to disrecommend the Expert in his thread, but obviously he's not quite that happy with DFI now. (which also brings me back to the question which DFI branch rejected his RMA because of the AS5 on the chipset. If that was DFI USA, aka the same guys who make the AS5-on-chipset guide that would be odd, kinda).

i asked kevin whether the board still worked after he had put the as5 on the chipset or not, but he didnt reply so far...

and about removing the cmos battery removal killing the boards/cpus, i know it sounds odd, but afaik its true!
but appearently some people never touched the battery and still had issues hmmm
12-13-2005, 06:41 AM
LoN3R

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Originally Posted by saaya

and about removing the cmos battery removal killing the boards/cpus, i know it sounds odd, but afaik its true!
but appearently some people never touched the battery and still had issues hmmm

I beleive they did it to help voltage from defaulting to low like the prob the had on the nf4 series boards .So that might be what they did to defeat the issue , im gonna look through the manual and see if they EVER mention this b/c i dont see why they wouldnt b/c i became second nature when clearing bios
12-13-2005, 07:32 AM
loonym

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Originally Posted by saaya

maybe removing the battery without setting the cmos jumper to reset causes the problems?

I have not found this to be the case with the expert. The original quote was pertaining to the crossfire anyway so I don't see the relevance. Oh wait maybe I forgot the expert is the exact same thing as the xfire only with a diff chipset? :p:
12-13-2005, 07:35 AM
mike

RE: Removing Battery - as far as I know this is ONLY relevant to the Crossfire RDX board. I have not seen a sticky about this being relevant to the Expert.

I also belive they ment to say that the battery ALONE ( without the cmos clear jumper) shouldn't be removed - maybe that's what they fear could have an impact.

EDIT: BATTERY REMOVAL DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE RDX - whether with or without Clear Cmos jumper.

.
12-13-2005, 07:40 AM
xgman

What needs to die is this thread. It's working everybody up over a few isolated cases.
12-13-2005, 07:50 AM
Dumo

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Originally Posted by xgman

What needs to die is this thread. It's working everybody up over a few isolated cases.

After an FX cpu died...then some peeps will see.
Good Luck...
12-13-2005, 07:54 AM
Dynasty

I feel for Kev, I really do. That news must of been hard. :(

So, far I guess I can consider it to be a little luck that keeps my
Experts and RDX-200 CF-DR going.

The more I play with my RDX-200 (since I been doing alot more CrossFire testing),
the better its seems to run above 250 HTT with my UTT/BH rams.

Both boards after receiving bios updates have been running very nice.

But, in the end its never easy losing an FX-55 or 57. :cool:
12-13-2005, 08:16 AM
k0nsl

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Originally Posted by mikeguava

EDIT: BATTERY REMOVAL DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE RDX - whether with or without Clear Cmos jumper.

I must be very lucky, because I would remove the battery each time it hanged AND I cleared the Cmos with the jumper -- every time atleast 10 times daily, if not more often. Wow.

-k0nsl
12-13-2005, 08:48 AM
alpha0ne

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Originally Posted by Dynasty

Both boards after receiving bios updates have been running very nice.

Which bios update have you used for the Expert ??, the ONLY updates are beta so you now have no warranty according to DFI :fact: :eek:
12-13-2005, 08:53 AM
Dynasty

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Which bios update have you used for the Expert ??, the ONLY updates are beta so you now have no warranty according to DFI :fact: :eek:

NF4EDB25 is Bin.File

Hehe, last thing I think about is warranty.
12-13-2005, 09:44 AM
jiff

[QUOTE=saaya]
imo it does sound odd, but who knows?
and those batteries dont really ever die :D
ive never heard of a cmos battery die, ever...
it takes a long time for the battery to discharge completely when the board has not been powered up at all, a LONG time... months id say, maybe even years...
so i dont think there will be a problem with dead or empty batteries killing boards.

I was a Engineer for some 10 years, it is rare but does happen. Which is normaly only noticed by end user, when there clock keeps losing time. It dosent always have to be off for months sometimes the battery loses its ability to hold a charge.
12-13-2005, 10:02 AM
CrashOv3r1De

So guys I think I might risking giving the eXpert a test with the LS.

I do plan on using over 1.65v anyways too worried with this board. Any other suggestions. I am not going to mess with the hsf or anything just changing cpu cooling and thats all.

All of you gurus who killed your board or it died some info for safety please ;)
12-13-2005, 11:45 AM
JohnMike

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Originally Posted by xgman

What needs to die is this thread. It's working everybody up over a few isolated cases.

Do you realy thing soo?! If your opinion is simples as that, i have to ask what would you be thinking if your dualOpty180 and the 2gigBalistix4000 die on your DFI Expert?!

Would you feel that your bad luck was a matter of isolated case and worthless of share it with this or other community?!

Would you be able to keep it just for yourself and avoid to inform others, soo that they may be prevent from an "accident" like this nature, that you payed very well?!

:stick:

Regards
12-13-2005, 03:10 PM
rra

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What needs to die is this thread. It's working everybody up over a few isolated cases.

Well then its not so isolated as I too have lost fx57 and 4800 on one thinking my ram was problem.also had 4led probs etc and yes it hurts.besides losing two sets of sli graphics cards on previous board sli dr yes got rma for board but wont be using it even though they are the best overclockers its too much like playing Russion roulette with one's equipment .:nono:
12-13-2005, 03:13 PM
hipro5

CPUs dies - rams dies - motherboards dies - ......BUT informing threads DON'T die just like that!......It'll die when the time comes.......:)
12-13-2005, 03:25 PM
-X-hellfire

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Originally Posted by hipro5

CPUs dies - rams dies - motherboards dies - ......BUT informing threads DON'T die just like that!......It'll die when the time comes.......:)

thankfully not on this forum, but on many others...
12-13-2005, 06:12 PM
mdzcpa

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Originally Posted by xgman

What needs to die is this thread. It's working everybody up over a few isolated cases.

I agree.

There may be something up with the board, but it certainly isn't effecting many poeple. I'm sure hundreds upon hundreds of boards have sold. After looking around at a dozen of the top internet forums, there aren't really many reports of trouble. Most threads about trouble on other forums point right to this thread anyway.

If they find a problem, it will likely be a problem that only applies in very specific circumstances.
12-13-2005, 06:39 PM
man called (E)

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

If they find a problem, it will likely be a problem that only applies in very specific circumstances.

Yeah like specific people getting 3Volts sent to their CPU.:shock2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=83032
12-13-2005, 06:48 PM
mdzcpa

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Originally Posted by man called (E)

Yeah like specific people getting 3Volts sent to their CPU.:shock2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=83032

You're missing the point.

The point is that there have been very few CPU deaths considering the hundreds of boards out there. So, although the BIOS fix is important, it is correcting a situation that only a few folks had run accross.

That said, I flashed to the new beta BIOS and all seems fine. I wasn't having any issues with my 2 boards, but I flashed anyway so that I could test it out for our members. So far so good.
12-13-2005, 07:01 PM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

CPUs dies - rams dies - motherboards dies - ......BUT informing threads DON'T die just like that!......It'll die when the time comes.......:)

I like that one!
12-13-2005, 07:08 PM
mdzcpa

The fix for the problem is here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=83032
12-13-2005, 07:30 PM
G H Z

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

You're missing the point.

Actually I think you are. Without these threads we might not have a new BIOS specifically addressing this problem so quickly, just a bunch of anonymous people with dead chips. Just be glad your not the one with a very very difficult to find FX or other similar chip killed that ran well under extreme cooling. Sorry but I had to interject that here.
12-13-2005, 07:53 PM
shawn1998

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

You're missing the point.

The point is that there have been very few CPU deaths considering the hundreds of boards out there. So, although the BIOS fix is important, it is correcting a situation that only a few folks had run accross.

That said, I flashed to the new beta BIOS and all seems fine. I wasn't having any issues with my 2 boards, but I flashed anyway so that I could test it out for our members. So far so good.

You really are missing the point. Just because you happen to be fortunate enough to have two stable boards shouldn't make you blind to the fact that there are indeed stability issues with the Expert. Also, a few cpu deaths? The fact that you find this acceptable is REALLY missing the point!
I am really happy for you that your two boards are running fine, but there are a few of us out here that aren't so lucky. If all you are going to keep adding to this discussion is the fact that you have no issues, so no one else should be either (hysteria, I think it is called), then stop adding! Believe it, there are issues with this board, or there wouldn't be a beta bios addressing cpu deaths.

Shawn

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