As Rollo said, THIS is the card to get (GTX 512) and he get info before other people here it seems. But he havent said anything about the card you talking about.
I thought you wanted people to buy this card ? should they wait instead ?
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As Rollo said, THIS is the card to get (GTX 512) and he get info before other people here it seems. But he havent said anything about the card you talking about.
I thought you wanted people to buy this card ? should they wait instead ?
My advice... Buy the 512mb 7800GTX, EVGA brand. Preferrably in december, just to give you a full Q1 span for stepping up. Step-up will be your best friend if the timeframe I'm told is true. If the date I'm told is wrong, then you still have your card, at $50 - $100 less than they'll cost the day they release, and you're not waiting 6 months for a new card. Nobody loses anything. If stepping up won't be an option, well, have a buyer on hand....When all else fails, EBay is your friend.
I have a sinking feeling that NVidia's plan this round is to run ATi out of options. We know that ATi cannot release the R600 until late next year... period.
So, throw out the GTX and make them throw the R520. Throw the 512mb GTX and make them throw the R580... Then, go for the kill....
Rollo said this is the card to get for good reason, because the day it comes out the gate no competition will come close judging by overclocked scores of cards close to those levels. I cannot say that for sure though, I haven't had hands on time with the 512mb GTX. I'm pretty sure though that we all know the 512mb GTX will be a BEAST!
R580 Q1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Besides, WFC about hardware that doesn´t exist, there will always be incoming hardware. If everyone waited for the best big deal to come, nobody would buy computers. Well as long as you get :banana: with a GF FX type fiasco you are good to go with any of the new gen cards.
OT: I did read something about GPU wars here:
http://omid.tomshardware.com/
Mad Money GPU's, its a good read.Quote:
Once ATI and Nvidia have all their console, handheld, motherboard, and add-in card partners firing on all cylinders, there is not much to differentiate them. That is until we get one more round of leapfrog, and the whole damn cycle starts again.
Exactly Juan, if a card has everything you need, buy it. If it doesn't, or you're close enough to the next launch, simply wait.
It's not rocket science... That's why you gotta love the step-up program. Have a new card now, get a newer card later, without losing the money you spent on the first card. Win-Win situation for everyone!
To bad we dont have anything like that in Sweden =(
Ouch, my condolences.
Just when I thought I'd order a X1800XT ;)
It doesn't look like the author of the article realizes that the design of the Xbox 360's GPU was sold to Microsoft, to be made by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
EDIT: Eh, nevermind, that's not what matters.
No eVGA here in the UK either....aw well.. I should be able to last till G80...there's probably gonna be an awesome high end card...but I can't wait any longer.... :)
Yes you will :D :D :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Troman
Wow, that's a HUGE cooler. Is this a quiet solution? The fan seems to be big...
Damn i just get the money together to get a 7800GTX (now looking at 2) and they bring this out , damn i wish i didnt have 4 kids id have way more money to waste on hardware:P
lol...Nice 4 kids. :) Now how bout i find your e-mail address and send that last post to the wifey ;) lol...priorities !!!Quote:
damn i wish i didnt have 4 kids
Anyhoo, i see these entering retail channels for pre-order, so apparently these are very real. Though I'm surprised to reviews popped up yet.
Perkam
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Originally Posted by Ubermann
WTF ?? :confused:
ATI doesn't care they lost the R500 to M$, they make much more money with that deal anyway. Zero RMA, more chips are sold, etcetera. The high-end market isn't big at all, they make the most money by selling OEM cards and 90% of those cards aren't high-end.
I see the battle for the fastest card available more as a prestige object for both ATI and Nvidia. If the fastest card is made by Nvidia then all lower parts for the same price as the ATI counterparts should be better than those counterparts. It takes a while before the opinion if either ATI or Nvidia is best change because 70% of the people that buy retail cards from ATI don't go through all those reviews. ATI can afford to lose the performance crown for now. No way ATI is history because it is a few fps slower than Nvidia's counterpart.
The R3** core was always better than Nvidia's NV3* core and those were sold in large quantities too.
He isn't the only one. Please do a good search if you buy anything. Don't only look at fps and then make the decission which card you like most. Some people (including me) don't like Nvidia's image quality or are having unstable fps and/or mouse lag. Make sure to chose the card you like most. Only decide after you've taken everything into acount (including feedback from people that bought the 7800GTX already) and then decide which is best. Remember: still image doesn't say much about the image quality during gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by -R@mi-
ATI doesn't make one penny of the Xbox360 Alexio....they sold the design..no royalties...they only made money off selling the design. :)
That's why MS went with ATI..they had to pay royalties to nVidia on the Xbox....
Everyone says that's it's really quiet....Quadro reviewers say the same....so that's awesome (much better then the Vacuum-o-X850 style cooler)Quote:
Wow, that's a HUGE cooler. Is this a quiet solution? The fan seems to be big...
Rofl...I'm sure that no reviewer played with the cards, they just showed the screenshots ;)Quote:
He isn't the only one. Please do a good search if you buy anything. Don't only look at fps and then make the decission which card you like most. Some people (including me) don't like Nvidia's image quality or are having unstable fps and/or mouse lag. Make sure to chose the card you like most. Only decide after you've taken everything into acount (including feedback from people that bought the 7800GTX already) and then decide which is best. Remember: still image doesn't say much about the image quality during gameplay.
Well, I bet they still made more money with this than using the design themselves. Maybe they just sold the design because the computer market isn't ready yet for a unified shader architecture. It takes a lot of time before engines have been made to take advantage of this design. Xbox 360 games (atleast the good ones) are made specially to take advantage of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Uhh i play with my card also but sorry for having my own opinion.Quote:
Rofl...I'm sure that no reviewer played with the cards, they just showed the screenshots
No problem...I have one too :) :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
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Originally Posted by DilTech
i just thought of something, it doesnt really seem like its that hard to get more mhz out of XT's, seems with better power circuits there could be alot more potential there... just thinking outloud here, but seems to me like ATI has a chance with the 520 core, 1800mhz memory, 700+ on core, XT PE anyone? that sure would give the GTX 512 a run for its money.
I don't think people will respond well to another Phantom Edition.... :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
ATi won't be able to push the ram that high, they didn't buy into the 1.1ns ram, they used 1.26ns. ATi are crazy, but surely not stupid. They can't afford to go testing those 1.26ns chips and hope for them to run stable at 1800mhz, that'd just cost them even MORE money on testing, as currently there's pretty much zero testing they have to do on the ram. They already spent too much money making the R520, they can't afford to go even higher considering the amount of R4xx chips that didn't sell and are likely going to end up being thrown away. It's in the double digit millions loss wise there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
They could do 700/1600, but I just can't see them trying higher than that on the ram. Time will tell though.
From what the rumours are.....550Mhz is easy on the new 512meg GTX....expect 800mhz+ on phase....if test samples made 800Mhz on air.....well....you don't have to be a genious to figure out a range of 3DMarks that you will get...
Anyway...I'd say let's all just wait and see...for all we know the 800Mhz was done on a 90nm core..and not on the 110nm....(not saying that it will be 90nm for those who read the sentence wrong) :)
Do we have any idea the power consumption of this thing? Looks brutal performance-wise, but a consideration is power usage, especially for those who plan to SLI it. If you need to buy a 600+watt ($250+) PSU just to run them, that's a price bump to consider. Sli 6800gt's run just dandy on my cheap fort 400, but I highly doubt this would as well