First review of Opteron s939

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09-23-2005, 02:24 PM
dinos22

we've got a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of people interested in a "group buy" for Single and Dual Core Opterons at OCAU.......our retailers are clearly greedy or distributors should be shot....one of the two........anyone know where we could organise a group buy and what sort of dollars are we talking :)
09-23-2005, 02:41 PM
Vandi423

You're going to have to contact the administrators of the forum to approve of this.

I've helped out Conrad and Saaya in the past. I also live pretty close to MaxxxRacer.

I could make this happen but group sales are not allowed on these forums. :(

2 more Opterons are going out today. You know who you are. ;)
09-23-2005, 02:41 PM
VulgarHandle

yeah, get 1000 ppl together to get the 1000 unit cost from amd :D
09-23-2005, 02:44 PM
goodcooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

You of course may believe what you like, I am not forcing my opinion on you, just counterweighting your theory with my own experiences.

UnG

excellent, this is what the forums are for, very enlightening conversation indeed :clap:

while driving in my car, i came across another tidbit of information that i could've added onto to the last post... i have an old server, and an old workstation here, both recently retired (last month) and both ran 24/7 nearly 365, both dually boards, an intel dual 370 and a (i'm wanting to say iwill) dual slot 2 workstation board, the dual 370 was packing ECC, but anyway, both machines contained DESKTOP chips (if you can call a slot2 P2 a desktop chip), the 370 board had a 933 P3.... no xeons here, but they lasted a long time i'd say

its what surrounds the chips that extends the life of it

now wheres the dam 144s, i want to buy two now, i'm fixin to build a soho server, and i can sell whichever one overclocks the worst :hrhr: :shiftyeyes:
09-23-2005, 04:02 PM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuRe

I agree with Ugly and Grey in the opinion that server cpu's should be of slightly higher quality, i mean they are desinged to be run all day and night in confined spaces and handle ooodles of processing.

Although i agree thats its all speculation as AMD could be cheap and hope thier production methods are good enough quality for rebranding consumer cpu's to server cpu's. If that makes sense :)

You should run for PM of GB with that statement.
09-23-2005, 11:00 PM
saratoga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Indeed my finding proves nothing, neither does your supposition that consumer grade and server grade chips are treated the same. Based on evidence at hand and first hand discussions with the companies involved, I'm inclined to believe they are treated differently. You of course may believe what you like, I am not forcing my opinion on you, just counterweighting your theory with my own experiences.

UnG

Testing chips does cost money, so its possible there are more detailed tests depending on the market they go into. However more testing mainly just implies a lower DOA rate. Theres no reason to believe that translates into a better clocked core, just one thats less likely to have been damaged and slipped through the cracks.

Quote:

I have not had a dead CPU in a single server yet from either the Xeon or Opteron family. That statement is not true of P4 or Athlon servers used in the small offices. I just pulled up the log.... out of 2000 servers world wide we have replaced 37 processor or processor boards in P4 or A64 based small office servers, no Xeons and no Opterons. I went back one year. Most common point of failure is PSU for those interested.

This supports my suggestion that there may be better quality control on the Opteron, but doesn't say anything about how they're binned. Its just as likely that better Q&A allows AMD to more accurately bin cores, and thus higher clocked parts are less likely to be found marked as lower speed grades. We really have no evidence either way.
09-23-2005, 11:15 PM
mongoled

Righty,

List of members who gonna have Opteron 939 CPU in their hands soon are:

robberbaron
ozzimark
unknown
unknown

thts a total of four (im brill at maths :)) all shipped from the same source. We are waiting for YOU guys to let us know whts going on with these babies. I log on each day waiting to see some results, only to see counter arguments of wht these chips will do

:stick:

Come on lucky Opteron 939 owners put the arguments to rest, soon.......

:toast:
09-24-2005, 12:54 AM
dinos22

wouldn't be surprised to see some Japanese OCs here too

http://www.vrforums.com/showpost.php...59&postcount=3
09-24-2005, 03:56 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

wouldn't be surprised to see some Japanese OCs here too

http://www.vrforums.com/showpost.php...59&postcount=3

The way this thread is dragging along, I'd be surprised to see any benches or ss in any language.
09-24-2005, 04:08 AM
ArcTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

wouldn't be surprised to see some Japanese OCs here too

http://www.vrforums.com/showpost.php...59&postcount=3

maybe we can source some from chainbolt? not sure if he does it still
09-24-2005, 04:37 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcTan

maybe we can source some from chainbolt? not sure if he does it still

smart man....haven't thought of that :toast:
09-24-2005, 05:07 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoled

Righty,

List of members who gonna have Opteron 939 CPU in their hands soon are:

robberbaron
ozzimark
unknown
unknown

thts a total of four (im brill at maths :)) all shipped from the same source. We are waiting for YOU guys to let us know whts going on with these babies. I log on each day waiting to see some results, only to see counter arguments of wht these chips will do

:stick:

Come on lucky Opteron 939 owners put the arguments to rest, soon.......

:toast:

It would be nice to get a larger sample of results to start drawing conclusions. Maybe more XS members can get on board next week with a new order. :stick:
09-24-2005, 05:31 AM
perry_78

Just looking at it, I see the S939 CPUs in stock here:

http://alzasoft.cz/SearchAdvanced.as...1&PartNumber=1

The 144 is priced very well, I know what my parents should get me in 2 weeks time when I go there ;) Same price as 3000+ Venice!

I don't see any sites with the dual core s939 opterons in stock though.
09-24-2005, 05:33 AM
perry_78

Petre, nechtel by jsi to prelozit :)
09-24-2005, 05:36 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juliette

Petre, nechtel by jsi to prelozit :)

Translation
09-24-2005, 05:41 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

heh, all right. i plan on playing around with low voltages for the first couple of days.. start out with how low i can get vcore at stock mhz, and see how it scales with voltage up to stock :D

I liked the good old days before low voltages. When you got a new cpu, you ripped it out of the box, threw it in the mb and cranked up the volts to see what the max was.

Where has the Xtreme in low volts?
09-24-2005, 05:42 AM
Ugly n Grey

it's all relative, pump 1.9 through a venny.... that's extreme enough
09-24-2005, 06:41 AM
computersmsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoled

Righty,

List of members who gonna have Opteron 939 CPU in their hands soon are:

robberbaron
ozzimark
unknown
unknown

thts a total of four (im brill at maths :)) all shipped from the same source. We are waiting for YOU guys to let us know whts going on with these babies. I log on each day waiting to see some results, only to see counter arguments of wht these chips will do

:stick:

Come on lucky Opteron 939 owners put the arguments to rest, soon.......

:toast:

50 Opteron 144 and maybe 5-10 146 for me in about 10 days.
09-24-2005, 06:46 AM
AgentVX

Hey dinos22, we may have found our group buy supplier :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

50 Opteron 144 and maybe 5-10 146 for me in about 10 days.
09-24-2005, 06:58 AM
GMX

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

what a load of :banana::banana::banana::banana:.......local retailer in Australia is quoting USD$660 for Opteron 165 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ...............they are dreaming ...............i'm sick of this bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: AMD pricing....it really needs to be regulated

typical Australian pricing...

I havnt logged on OCAU for a while, I might join the group buy:D
09-24-2005, 08:00 AM
VulgarHandle

http://www.svethardware.cz/art_doc-6...2003E6F56.html

translation anyone????

313x9=2816 w/ 1.472v!!!
09-24-2005, 08:05 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

http://www.svethardware.cz/art_doc-6...2003E6F56.html

translation anyone????

313x9=2816 w/ 1.472v!!!

Did you read the first post of this thread?
09-24-2005, 08:11 AM
VulgarHandle

grrrr, my bad, been a while since i've visited the first page, lol
09-24-2005, 08:30 AM
ZoKi

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

50 Opteron 144 and maybe 5-10 146 for me in about 10 days.

Damn you :p:

any 165's ???
09-24-2005, 08:34 AM
computersmsa

165 is too expesinve ...

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