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I'm looking for a new Cpu/Mobo combo....It's either this Dothan or an FX-55.....I obviously know the dothan isn't as good...but it's almost as good, for less...would I be dumb to buy this over the FX if i game? I would be putting a 6800GT clocked past ultra speeds and 2 sticks of 512 pc3000 BH-5 into the mobo....
You should go for the dothan. It'l end up being way cheaper than an FX55 and from what I've seen it's going to be a lot faster, as long as you can run your memory 210mhz+ with the 3:5 (fsb:mem) divider on the dfi.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGG_RAY
If someone could post FX benches @ 2.7Ghz w/ 20x multiple that would be cool.
Is 2.7Ghz possible on FX with stock HSF?
Lol... this is just silly. Dothan with one hand behind his back (Single channel, no mem b/w) is sparring with FX55 and not "losing", hehehehe......
C
Check out the sandra un buffered a few posts back :)
Looking good.. I thought that the dothan was severly crippled with memory bandwidth? 3100mbps isint too bad.
2001 w/ totally default FX55 @2.6GHz [13x200, 1:1, 2-2-2-5, X800XTPE @ 527/573 (default clock for my card:D)] => 32185Quote:
If someone could post FX benches @ 2.7Ghz w/ 20x multiple that would be cool.
but this is with 'all-out-tweaked' Win2k. with normal WinXP installation its around 30400 or so.
3D2001 is not the test for Dothan. It does really low in Drago and Nature tests for some reason (lack of bandwidth and/or AGP4X?). But rocks in Car low and Lobby tests :D
3D03 is about the same as w/ FX if not better. Does also very well in 3D05 and Doom3.
Quickie first run w/ AOpen board and 1.7G dothan, alpha pal8942+80mm papst NGML cooling (normal room temp).
Dothan 1.7G @ 2761MHz - SuperPi 1M 29sec
[poor time cos of lowish RAM speed - also very messed up OS (originally used w/ ATI RS480 A64 stuff)].
w/ 16x multi the board seems to max out already at 166. Need to up the Vagp/chipset voltage and improve chipset cooling I think.
not so bad , but a winnie can do better , of course it's not the same bandwith. It will be interresting to see if bandwith is really important on these chip.
Related to what gkiing asked for before, it would be interesting to see a "fair" comparison of Dorthan vs FX55 in 3D01. For example:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Dorthan @ 2600 (130x20) + stock XTPE + "stock OS"
vs
FX55 @ 2600 (130x20) + stock XTPE + "stock OS"
Hmm just got meself a laptop with 2GHz Dothan..
Maybe i should get a DFI board and my prommy :D
i was bored on the drive to some relatives and i figured it might be nice to put the results posted so far into tables of sorts for easier compareing. so here they are:
sorted by super pi time:sorted by cpu clock:Code:sup.pi - board - used proc. @ clock - mul./fsb - mdi - mem & timings - user
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25 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.913 - 19 x 153 - 3:5 - 255-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen*
26 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.950 - 19 x 155 - 3:5 - 258-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
26 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.936 - 19 x 154 - 3:5 - 257-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen
29 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.586 - 17 x 152 - 3:5 - 253-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
29 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.761 - 17 x 162 - 3:4 - 216-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
30 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.698 - 18 x 150 - 3:4 - 200-2.0-3-2-7 - stalker
30 sec - dfi - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.608 - 16 x 163 - 3:4 - 217-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
30 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.572 - 15 x 171 - 3:4 - 228-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
31 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.665 - 18 x 148 - 3:4 - 197-2.0-3-3-7 - stalker
31 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.524 - 14 x 180 - 1:1 - 180-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
32 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.465 - 17 x 145 - 3:4 - 193-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
33 sec - dfi - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.505 - 20 x 125 - 3:5 - 208-2.0-2-2-5 - fugger
33 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.237 - 15 x 149 - 3:5 - 248-x.x-x-x-x - macci
34 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.169 - 13 x 167 - 3:4 - 222-2,0-2-2-5 - jan
38 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt*
40 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
sorted by mem clock (ignoring timings):Code:26 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.950 - 19 x 155 - 3:5 - 258-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
26 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.936 - 19 x 154 - 3:5 - 257-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen
25 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.913 - 19 x 153 - 3:5 - 255-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen*
29 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.761 - 17 x 162 - 3:4 - 216-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
30 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.698 - 18 x 150 - 3:4 - 200-2.0-3-2-7 - stalker
31 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.665 - 18 x 148 - 3:4 - 197-2.0-3-3-7 - stalker
30 sec - dfi - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.608 - 16 x 163 - 3:4 - 217-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
29 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.586 - 17 x 152 - 3:5 - 253-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
30 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.572 - 15 x 171 - 3:4 - 228-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
31 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.524 - 14 x 180 - 1:1 - 180-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
33 sec - dfi - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.505 - 20 x 125 - 3:5 - 208-2.0-2-2-5 - fugger
32 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.465 - 17 x 145 - 3:4 - 193-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
33 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.237 - 15 x 149 - 3:5 - 248-x.x-x-x-x - macci
34 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.169 - 13 x 167 - 3:4 - 222-2,0-2-2-5 - jan
38 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt*
40 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
sorted by fsb:Code:26 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.950 - 19 x 155 - 3:5 - 258-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
26 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.936 - 19 x 154 - 3:5 - 257-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen
25 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.913 - 19 x 153 - 3:5 - 255-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen*
29 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.586 - 17 x 152 - 3:5 - 253-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
33 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.237 - 15 x 149 - 3:5 - 248-x.x-x-x-x - macci
30 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.572 - 15 x 171 - 3:4 - 228-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
34 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.169 - 13 x 167 - 3:4 - 222-2,0-2-2-5 - jan
30 sec - dfi - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.608 - 16 x 163 - 3:4 - 217-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
29 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.761 - 17 x 162 - 3:4 - 216-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
33 sec - dfi - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.505 - 20 x 125 - 3:5 - 208-2.0-2-2-5 - fugger
30 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.698 - 18 x 150 - 3:4 - 200-2.0-3-2-7 - stalker
31 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.665 - 18 x 148 - 3:4 - 197-2.0-3-3-7 - stalker
32 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.465 - 17 x 145 - 3:4 - 193-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
31 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.524 - 14 x 180 - 1:1 - 180-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
38 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt*
40 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
if i made errors or if you can fill in blanks like missing mem-timings, etc. go ahead and tell me. i'm not sure if that 25sec run by kyosen up there is a patched one or not - i might have read his post wrong for all i know. the * behind that score marks it as "patched!" for now ;)Code:31 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.524 - 14 x 180 - 1:1 - 180-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
30 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.572 - 15 x 171 - 3:4 - 228-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
34 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.169 - 13 x 167 - 3:4 - 222-2,0-2-2-5 - jan
30 sec - dfi - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.608 - 16 x 163 - 3:4 - 217-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
29 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.761 - 17 x 162 - 3:4 - 216-2.0-2-2-5 - macci
26 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.950 - 19 x 155 - 3:5 - 258-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
26 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.936 - 19 x 154 - 3:5 - 257-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen
25 sec - dfi - 765 / 2.1g @ 2.913 - 19 x 153 - 3:5 - 255-2.0-2-2-5 - kyosen*
29 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.586 - 17 x 152 - 3:5 - 253-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
30 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.698 - 18 x 150 - 3:4 - 200-2.0-3-2-7 - stalker
33 sec - dfi - 715 / 1.5g @ 2.237 - 15 x 149 - 3:5 - 248-x.x-x-x-x - macci
31 sec - aopen - 745 / 1.8g @ 2.665 - 18 x 148 - 3:4 - 197-2.0-3-3-7 - stalker
32 sec - aopen - 735 / 1.7g @ 2.465 - 17 x 145 - 3:4 - 193-2.0-2-2-5 - siphilon
33 sec - dfi - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.505 - 20 x 125 - 3:5 - 208-2.0-2-2-5 - fugger
38 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt*
40 sec - aopen - 755 / 2.0g @ 2.000 - 20 x 100 - 3:5 - 166-2.0-2-2-5 - the stilt
/edit hm let's just say it IS patched :) - the * now marks patched results in general.
what we would need would be runs at comparable overall speeds and matching memclocks. this should somewhat narrow the spectrum that charlie mentioned earlier.
if you think multiple tables aren't necessary because they contain redundant data, just tell me which one(s) to remove.
hi guys,
I'm a little unhappy with my 2Ghz dothan :(
he manages max. 2300Mhz @ default Vcore but i had hope he goes higher.
It is possible to increase the vcore without mods? I hoped DFI release a new Bios where i can increase the Vcore, it is possible?
sry for my bad english, but i want to learn it :)
nope just mods can do that. 2.3ghz on stock is still pretty good tho. I'm trying to remember if there is some pin mod or if you can only do a mod like has been posted...with the circuit board, etc
jjcom
I know the pin mod but iam fearful. The Dothan wasn't cheap.
Hi,
i found 1 sec with a clean system and ~2700 mhz :toast:
http://www.picupload.net/files/20041112/1102791735.jpg
Had to bolt LS on, since my chip is already wrecked :(
Here is some SuperPI action at 2950MHz. I still dont haven´t done that vid mod, so currently I can feed 1.447V max to cpu. It took 1.427V to get up to 2984MHz, so there should be still some headroom left ;)
btw. I´ll let you decide who is running with SSE2 patched SuperPI ;) :
SuperPI - Patched
SuperPI - Non Patched
whats that program to set fsb? i only ask so I can overclock my laptop :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
damn, what happened to your chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
oh and hint taken, i guess i was right then :). i added both your 2.0g scores and marked them accordingly...
oh btw could you put in a run at 15x133 3:5 and one at 13x154 3:5?
these dothans are very interesting chips, certainly got me questioning my next purchase :). May have to hold off a few months as the mobos still arent available in Australia yet :(
could you guys please post some pifast times as well
EDIT: My first post in the intel forum ... I feel dirty now :D
FUGGER,
> Thanks Kyosen, what cooling are you using?
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my result:26s@2935.84MHz is recorded under pure air-cooling,
by Thermaltake Tower112 with Delta 90mm.
Maro is my pretty dog, now she lives in heaven, and also the name of
memory occupying program. Its purpose is same as MAXMEM tweaking,
but MAXMEM is dominant in my case, so...Maro is my talisman:)
> Is 2.7Ghz possible on FX with stock HSF?
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I think that most FX can run @2.8GHz with stock HSF.
With good HSF and 10~20C degree air, it can run over 2.9G in my case.
sky, nice collecting work!!!
> i'm not sure if that 25sec run by kyosen up there is a patched one or not
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Now you looks noticed it, recently I added Normal/SSE2/SSE3 identification
on SuperPI at binary level...yes, "belive or not" depends on you.
And when I use those patches, I say "I used the patch".
Basicaly, I think those patches are heteful, though it's intereting technically.
hehehe...Quote:
EDIT: My first post in the intel forum ... I feel dirty now
LOL.... clean yourself with some FX benching :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRed
@Macci or anyone with a Dothan setup
Can you guys run some gaming benchmarks? I would love to see what Dothan can do :)
I hope I get in next time a Nvidia chip to test because its possible that my 9700 pro is limit my cpu :(