you are being rude there, ok ill stop talking about me and about you. let me tell you again its your cpus ondie controller limiting you like mine did at 250fsb. you may want to consider going s939 winchester and run dual channel with your 2 sticks
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you are being rude there, ok ill stop talking about me and about you. let me tell you again its your cpus ondie controller limiting you like mine did at 250fsb. you may want to consider going s939 winchester and run dual channel with your 2 sticks
Ok, so is your "value ram going to do ddr600 just because you have a cpu that can handle dual channel? Ever think that the reason your value ram craps out at 250 is because it's just that, "VALUE RAM!!!!!!!!" And for your information, need I say it again? BOTH OF MY 754 CPU MEM CONTROLLERS HAVE DONE OVER 270MHZ STABLE, SO DON'T TRY TO TELL ME MY SYSTEM IS INCAPABLE OF RUNNING 2X512 PAST 250.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
a gig of ram is harder on the controller than 512mb, this is well known already and is why I am going winchester so I can use a gig of ram at higher fsb. I have been factual in everything but I can see your rudeness stems from your bad mood. bench with one stick, game with both=win :) I have no clue how far my corsair value will go, I only know I hit 250fsb with 1 stick in my s754, that is all.
Speaking of mem controllers. The errors I kept popping up at 10x285 MHz in Test 6 were my controller. I bumped up VCore a hair and passed again, switched to 11x285 and grabbed a few more screenies and a non-CodeRed tweaked 26 sec SuperPi. Oh yeah, this chip beats my old 3700+! Memtesting 290MHz now, 1 error first loop so I need to tweak a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Geforce4ti4200: I'll be happy to test the max at 2.7V, but it'll be a few days before I get to it. I'll shoot you a pm or catch you on AIM when I get there. I still want to max the mem, and the cpu, and get some 3D benching done. Gotta figure out which A64Tweaker settings I can get away with on this mem too.
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oK, yEAH, i'D GAME WITH BOTH STICKS IF I COULD RUN THEM TOGETHER. DO you actually read the posts from other members? or are you on xs just so you can read your own posts? I'm guessing it's the 2nd one.
AGAIN>>
"My guess is that the set isn't volt matched. Speed matched, yes, but each stick likes completely different volts. 1 loves low volts around 2.7-2.8 the other one only works with volts of 2.9 or higher. If you give the stick that doesn't like volts too much it gets errors. If you don't give the stick that likes volts enough, it fails too. So this is why they won't work together. Now if I could only have 2 sticks that run at 280 or higher with the same volts I'll be happy. :)"
here's a screenie with the same 62w mobile 3200 I'm using at this minute. But because of the memcontrollers inabilty to handle 2x512 at 270mhz I was able to take this screenshot and pass 14 loops of memtest. And run this sisoft mem bench
Interesting... Time to turn off vdd mod again and up the v-core and see how memtest result comes out.
There are so many things in this equation of memory that it is hard to pinpoint where problem lies... -_-; Even my max 281 2.5-3-3-7 dual channel might not be memory... that would be funny... should try single stick once testing memory out. :)
So you think I should lower the vdimm and increase my vcore past the 1.75v i'm at currently and run memtest again?Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
Or are you saying
turn my computer off.
redo your vdimm mod.
then increase your vcore?
I am using a powerstream and increasing the 3.3 pot and using a modded dfi bios 10/15 with 4.0vdimm. But I'll give it a little more vcore. BRB. :)
I think you might need a newer CG core chip Trans. Alot of CO's don't like dual sticks as well as CG mobil's. The voltage speed/differences between these two is a little troubling though, especially at that price:-/
OK, I gave it more vcore 1.82 and no changes. I backed it down again. running 1 stick memtest stable at 280*9 1:1 --------2.5-3-3-7 1t.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
The thing I have a problem with is I've ran 2x512 at 270+ before with this mobile. And I've always ran 2x512 in every a64 rig I've had. BH5, EB, BH6, TCCD, Hynix. Never has this happened. these should at least do 265mhz or 200mhz at 2.5-3-3. The fact is, they dont. The conflicting highvolt/lowvolt sticks deff. is the culprit. I'm going to send these back tomorrow. I'm going out of town for a few days so hopefully I'll have a matched set when I return. I will never lose faith in ocz. I've been a solid ocz customer for as long as I've been overclocking and I know OCZ will take care of me. They are the best! I just got a bad match. It happens.
Weird. Look at the SPD screenie... ???
http://mysite.verizon.net/res6otqr/s...redBW_8753.jpg
Sure is a nice screenie though. :D
It looks like somewhere in the low 280's is my max stable with 2.5-3-3. No matter where I set the cpu multi, or what I do to VDimm I start popping those test 6 errors. I pretty well convinced myself at 280 that this was a controller issue, or at least something not directly attributable to the RAM. Right around there my setup starts choking on RAS:CAS = 3. Probably the same source of my setup not liking RAS:CAS = 2 over 205 MHz. I do have a second mobo here, so sometime in the next few days I plan to find out if the mobo or cpu is what gives me this issue. Too many people are running the same BH-5 sticks I have, on the same mobo, with the same cpu for me to believe I can't do it. If I get that resolved, I'm pretty confident I'll be able to show something more stable at higher frequencies with this RAM too.
Errr? Trans AM... RELAX dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
I was talking to myself in public. I was talking about what I plan to do on MY board. I have VDD mod :P I was wondering if VDD mod had impact on memory or v-core change did. I know TI can get to someones nerves quite frequently but that doesn't mean YOU have to get in line with him too.
BTW, back to topic.
1) VDD mod does help gaining more stabilities with high clock memory for some unknown reason - This mobo was doing 320+ FSB fine before VDD mod already... wierd... (Yeah, I just got me another new board with Korean chipset...)
2) Vcore did help gaining more stablities with high clock memory. But I am talking about close to .2v just to get 5mhz on memory. I might have pushed the memory controller to limit already but soon to be seen OCZ 3200 Rev2 will tell me (or won't) if it is the limit or not.
That is it for now :)
MikED -> Tried VDD mod, you might be able to get about 5-6 more mhz out of your memory :)
but it's annonying when you pay 360$ and not getting the performance you expect...
some get 285 with PDP for 221$...so go figure.
almost 9k there mikead_99 :D
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Originally Posted by trans am
Can you test any of these in a different board. Seems like nothing working well in your dfi for some reason.
Yup. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo
I think I'll be looking up at it for a while though. I hate the thought of it, but I might have to try 3-4-3 or 3-4-4 just to see if I can get any closer.
These are already on the way back to ocz. They are going to send back some better matched and fix the heatspreader issue. I thought I fixed it for good last night, but they are pulling off the ics again. bad adhesive on the pads and I think the pads may need to be slightly thicker. Anyway, I'm away from home for a few days so I'll have plenty of time to blow off all this steam. Sorry for snapping yesterday at Ti4200. Try running 200 or more consecutive runs of test 5 with a change in mem options between each test. After 4 hrs you start to see that blue memtest screen everywhere you go. Anyway, I am reluctant to buy another 939 setup right away since after my 1st experience a week ago. I had a 3200+ BI and it was nowhere close to the performance of my mobile. Hopefully there will be more 939 board solutions in the next couple of weeks. This will allow some time to weed out those old 939 cpu dates. I'll take 0441 and newer. FX55's look nice but $800 for a cpu is not looking nice. maybe a good 3500+ is what I need, but I need to get my ram straightened out 1st. Mikead you're making me jealous. almost 9k in sandra! that is awesome! How many volts were you giving the ram in that last screenie? And how high do they go separately? does one respond better to low volts like mine? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
If his is anything like mine, it would be chugging along at 2.6v... any higher or lower, it worsens.. :p Guess DDR booster can sit somewhere and gather dust now. As for my 2 sticks of Gskill, they do 285, 285 individual now. better than 281 I had dual channel. (both do best @ 2.6v) Considering the results, I might be limited by my CPU on how high it can go as it is unlikely both sticks are so much matched to exact mhz showing same behavior on memtest 5. If OCZ comes in with same kind of performance on my 3200EL, I guess I will probably sell one of this set... but it will really be toss up since I believe I am limited by the CPU and have no idea which one will ultimately clock higher :confused:
@ trans am: I think I had them at only 2.95V for that screenie. jinu117 has a point though. Last night I was bumping up the voltage as I increased speed. Today though, I wanted to test long term stability more, so I tried a Prime95 run at 275x11 and 2.75VDimm. I got an error pretty quickly so I took the cpu out of the equation and went 275x10, same quick error. I messed around a bit and found 2.6V to work flawlessly, so now I'm kind of taking another look at my whole approach. 280x10 still took 2.65VDimm, but I might need smaller bump ups then I was giving them. I haven't messed around with the sticks individually at this point, they are getting to my sweet spot for 24/7 use as is (280x11) so I'm guessing they're a good match. I know how it feels to have a pair like that though, my 2x512 Mushkins are just like that, around 230 MHz they want about .1V or so different, and you just can't do that. Pretty frustrating.
anyone in the UK have any of this stuff?
also what is the exact name/spec (timings at stock) suppliers will use to advertise them
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...annel_platinum
this stuff right
i ordered mine from the US http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_i...561764ca17f339 + $28 shipping and received it on thursday but not tried it yet as i am still setting up my H20 stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAcon
btw i was not charged any Import Duties :banana:
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Originally Posted by Wingz
sweet whats $380 IN ££££
about £215?
no charges would be mint
me wants some, sold my EB now also
whats worst case.... vat charges?
also if it comes DOA or whatever can i rma to uk OCZ?
it was £205. import duty is 3.5% + VAT = £44Quote:
Originally Posted by BAcon
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Originally Posted by Wingz
wont let me buy says too pricy over limit, trying to use paypal
what payment method you use dude?
i used paypal.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAcon
limit of $350 without shipping with paypal, its damm $352
pain in the ass, may wait to see if it drops a few dollars, not paying 4% to do bank transfer to them
edit: may have to get some gskill 4400 2.5-3-3-7
cheaper to, comes at £175inc