even those in the US/overseas? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Will be given ONLY to users of our site here in Hellas and to users of Xtreme Systems forums....... ;)
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even those in the US/overseas? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Will be given ONLY to users of our site here in Hellas and to users of Xtreme Systems forums....... ;)
I'm glad to hear thatQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Will be given ONLY to users of our site here in Hellas and to users of Xtreme Systems forums....... ;)
:toast:
Yes....... :D :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by pik-ard v1.1
even those in the US/overseas? ;)
lol ...everyone is already ordering these sticks. and he hasn't even made one yet.
can't wait for results tho on how they perform ...but according to bigtoe, we shudnt expect much. :rolleyes:
This is the most anticipated memory to date :rolleyes:
rolling eyes at bigtoe is not really fair imho. he is just sharing his experience.Quote:
Originally posted by a5h
...but according to bigtoe, we shudnt expect much. :rolleyes:
someone would be unhappy with what he says purely because he works for a commercial entity and their possible motives. it would be great if we rather gave him the benefit of the doubt. otherwise his only option is to stay completely out of memory related threads which wouldn't be such a good idea now would it.
actually i think ocz could turn this into a public relations 'win' if they offered fairly some quality pcb's to the community for this project.
/ramble
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Originally posted by hipro5
P.S. IF this will happen at last , I will NOT permit NOT even one module "go away" without making 240MHz(480MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.1Vdimm.......and MINIMUM 265MHz(530MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.5Vdimm on a Canterwood mobo......So on an A64 would perform even better..........ALL of the modules will be tested and will have their "lebel" on them of what they did and how they did it.....HAS anyone else done such a thing before???......You will KNOW EXACTLY what you're getting.....NOT BAD!!!...... :D
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Is anyone interested of a hipro5's RAM PCB???
Yap, what would the price be for 2 x 512 BH5 chips on Hipro5 PCB ?
One to you M8........ :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by flytek
actually i think ocz could turn this into a public relations 'win' if they offered fairly some quality pcb's to the community for this project.
/ramble
I agree, bigtoe and the other guys @ OCZ know their stuff, so it'd be silly to just ignore their insight/advice. ;) Hopefully, "IF" hipro5 needs any goods or advice, it would be forthcoming, in the spirit of helping a brother overclocker. :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
One to you M8........ :toast:
The fact that Tony works at OCZ should mean nothing in this thread. If hipro makes a bunch of sticks and sells them OCZ won't even blink nor will any other ram company for that matter. Fact is Tony just wants to make sure Hipro knows whats involved and the costs so he doesn't make a big mistake and blow a LOT of cash on something that may not work out. I've seen prices where it's about $6/chip and when you buy on the open market like that you always get dead chips and ones that don't run well. I wonder what % of the chips hipro buys will actually work out. It's all going to be interesting to see what actually goes into making ram...the behind the scenes :D
Steve
ALSO well spoken........ ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
The fact that Tony works at OCZ should mean nothing in this thread. If hipro makes a bunch of sticks and sells them OCZ won't even blink nor will any other ram company for that matter. Fact is Tony just wants to make sure Hipro knows whats involved and the costs so he doesn't make a big mistake and blow a LOT of cash on something that may not work out. I've seen prices where it's about $6/chip and when you buy on the open market like that you always get dead chips and ones that don't run well. I wonder what % of the chips hipro buys will actually work out. It's all going to be interesting to see what actually goes into making ram...the behind the scenes :D
Steve
yeah, if these things can beat some mushy bh-5 i got then get a package ready for canada.
Im also rather interested, hipro you got a kick ass find!
I would definately be interested as well... Assuming of course you will let us Canadians in in this deal if it goes through.
Canadians first....(my wife is from Canada)......... ;) :DQuote:
Originally posted by wookie
I would definately be interested as well... Assuming of course you will let us Canadians in in this deal if it goes through.
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Originally posted by hipro5
Will be given ONLY to users of our site here in Hellas and to users of Xtreme Systems forums....... ;)
OMG! i want 2 of them :D
I read every single post in this thread. all I can say is: :toast:
Let's hope there will be a happy end in this story:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Wonderful! :)Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Canadians first....(my wife is from Canada)......... ;) :D
I'm fairly certain The actual manufacturers test them prior to stamping them. And that plus the tests ran on an assembled dimm is the limit of testing that most ram will go through. The idea that every chip must be hand-picked to get a good stick of ram is absurd. I've owned about half a dozen sticks of pc2100 Crucial (7.5ns tested) and every one of them did pc2700 at 7-3-3-2.5 (stock timings) and 2.6vdimm and at least 185 at those timings with 2.8vdimm. This was on a kt333 motherboard. The one stick I tried on a nf2 board and a i865 board did pc3700 speeds at 8-3-3-3 and about 3.2vdimm. I'm not buying that Crucial was testing all their chips to pc2700 specs before pc2700 was even available.Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Im not in any way trying to discourage Hipro from doing this...im just trying to help him decide what is the best way to do this and if it is worth spending potentially a lot of cash.
You have to remember the spot market had OCZ, Buffalo and Mushkin all buying BH6 and BH5 in just the same way as Hipro is doing now..we all tested IC's on a regular basis and all now decided the yield is to low to actually think it was worth while carrying on with BH based modules.If there was still good stuff out there trust me OCZ would buy it.
Now, this doesn't mean some of the BH5 hipro has found will not be any good...what it does mean is that careful speed binning will be needed before modules are built and this IC speed binning is not cheap. I just have a feeling you guys think its a simple task of soldering an IC on a pcb and thats it you have a wonder module...i can tell you this is far from the case.
If you guys had any idea of how many modules and IC's we test at ocz you would know that it takes a long time to find a stable source of good IC's etc and they have to be constantly checked week in week out for constistancy.
Also the pcb has to have the correct components to accept the BH IC so just any old PCB will not do..you have to be careful here.
Now to finish for those who don't know I work for OCZ and have done over a year now.I was instrumental in deciding if OCZ would restock the BH5 and BH6 modules and i also had a hand in deciding to drop them when yield bagan to suck.The last BH6 we tested was that bad less than 20% would do 200fsb at 2.8Vdimm, this is why i am expressing caution here.
:toast:Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Will be given ONLY to users of our site here in Hellas and to users of Xtreme Systems forums....... ;)
omg saaya's sig just made fall out of my chair! :wierd:
Its the doom 3 of memory...
I believe you missed the point of the post...Quote:
Originally posted by Lithan
I'm fairly certain The actual manufacturers test them prior to stamping them. And that plus the tests ran on an assembled dimm is the limit of testing that most ram will go through. The idea that every chip must be hand-picked to get a good stick of ram is absurd. I've owned about half a dozen sticks of pc2100 Crucial (7.5ns tested) and every one of them did pc2700 at 7-3-3-2.5 (stock timings) and 2.6vdimm and at least 185 at those timings with 2.8vdimm. This was on a kt333 motherboard. The one stick I tried on a nf2 board and a i865 board did pc3700 speeds at 8-3-3-3 and about 3.2vdimm. I'm not buying that Crucial was testing all their chips to pc2700 specs before pc2700 was even available.
some for me please :D
any idea on cost yet ?!?
Oh I'm from Canada too :D :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Canadians first....(my wife is from Canada)......... ;) :D