Amd Officially Benches Bulldozer

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09-19-2011, 11:08 AM
Stewie007

AMD respects its customers just fine. It just looks like the Geek Media convinced itself that that it was going to release on September 19th, and once that they saw the evidence below they felt stupid just like some of us do now. :p: So they said "its delayed" to save face rather than admit that they fell for it like a lot of us.

Note that it always says "AMD did not comment" on the bottom of all of these news stories.

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Originally Posted by Walrus74

It's not september or november or whatever you want... :D

Inside a discussion on an italian forum HERE

You can see a frame from the grafic novel:
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And one from a 2007 AMD slide:
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don't you notice anything?
:up:

p.s: thanks dav1deser
09-19-2011, 11:17 AM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by Canis-X

This is where I got that from....but purely speculative

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...r-october.html

There's one more explaination. Amd could have just simply developed a lemon. Its entirely possible. It would explain a lot.
09-19-2011, 11:25 AM
god_43

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

There's one more explanation. Amd could have just simply developed a lemon. Its entirely possible. It would explain a lot.

does not explain dave's enthusiasm about the cpu. either way if its not here by Thursday, then i cannot wait anymore, and ill be buying an intel system.
09-19-2011, 11:27 AM
Manicdan

my explanation:
the server chips are so awesome that they are using every platter of silicon possible to get those out, since thats where the margins are.*

*explanation made entirely from salt
09-19-2011, 11:51 AM
Solus Corvus

In ancient times salt was sometimes used as a form of currency. So the more salt you take with something the greater credence you are giving it. If you take a mountain of salt with a rumor it means you are betting a mountain of money that it is true.

And get over the timetables. Hoping and dreaming or getting upset at AMD won't make the chip come any faster and will only make for an unpleasant ~5 weeks on your part. It gets here when it gets here, the only control you have is over your emotional state when it does.
09-19-2011, 11:56 AM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by god_43

does not explain dave's enthusiasm about the cpu. either way if its not here by Thursday, then i cannot wait anymore, and ill be buying an intel system.

Maybe he's getting one for free ;) or they just blew smoke up his butt

Also even if you go with sandy bridge do you think you'll be disappointed? 2500K is a beast and Ivy Bridge is 6 months away.
09-19-2011, 11:58 AM
Manicdan

i dont think they release on thursdays anyway, i thought almost all hardware was released tuesday
09-19-2011, 12:16 PM
qurious63ss

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AMD's new CEO Rory Read.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
09-19-2011, 12:31 PM
stangracin3

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Maybe he's getting one for free ;) or they just blew smoke up his butt

Also even if you go with sandy bridge do you think you'll be disappointed? 2500K is a beast and Ivy Bridge is 6 months away.

is there a reason you havee to be pro intel in everypost you make in an amd thread and anti amd in 90% of them
Accusing dave of being bought off, yea thats going to go over real well. why don't you go post that in the wcg section and see how long it takes before one of them hacks an admin account an banhammers you LOL.
09-19-2011, 12:40 PM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by stangracin3

is there a reason you havee to be pro intel in everypost you make in an amd thread and anti amd in 90% of them
Accusing dave of being bought off, yea thats going to go over real well. why don't you go post that in the wcg section and see how long it takes before one of them hacks an admin account an banhammers you LOL.

Oh lord. I was making a joke. Maybe you should learn to lighten up instead of being so serious all the time.
09-19-2011, 12:42 PM
qurious63ss

I agree. Dave is a good man and no one should question his integrity regarding what he saw. The question is what he saw. If it was those so called "official benchmarks" which show a BD going up against an I5 and a 980X in handbrake and D2 game then what he saw may of looked good but really doesn't tell us much as to how BD will perform.
09-19-2011, 12:50 PM
Evantaur

http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~evntr/dozer.jpg
sorry but was bored :D
09-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Maybe he's getting one for free ;) or they just blew smoke up his butt

Also even if you go with sandy bridge do you think you'll be disappointed? 2500K is a beast and Ivy Bridge is 6 months away.

Let me answer this;
IF I was given 100 systems I'd say thank you but what I'd post is what I saw with my own eyes.
No one buys me and I mean no one ever.
What I saw did impress me and I think after 15 years in this game and almost 45 years in the workforce I can tell when someone is blowing smoke.
Sure there is marketing. There should be as that is their job.
What you will see from me when the time comes are benches that I performed myself and since you don't know me well I'll say that I'm far from the best of overclockers.
I stay on the conservative side with voltage.
Example, I had I think the first EVGA SR2 board in the US and when I benched it the max voltage I used was 1.45v and why?
X5680's aren't cheap and I couldn't afford to blow a pair of those at over $3500.00 pair.
Also I like to show "real world" numbers that most guys can match.
Thanks for reading.
09-19-2011, 01:11 PM
Warwian

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Originally Posted by Evantaur

http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~evntr/dozer.jpg
sorry but was bored :D

Haha, god! Taken just outside AMD's HQ in Austin I bet?
09-19-2011, 01:16 PM
Canis-X

Thanks Movieman!! I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing some respected individual's reviews of the product that is headed our way. I am getting one regardless, but it is always nice to see what others are able to do. :)
09-19-2011, 01:25 PM
jogshy

Using a game ( Diret 3 ) to compare CPUs is just incomplete and innacurate ( because games don't use much CPU normally ).
I'll better wait for some SuperPI(for monothread), Lame, Cinebench, Prime and ray-tracing render times in both OC and non-OC versions.
09-19-2011, 01:47 PM
PaganII

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Originally Posted by Warwian

Haha, god! Taken just outside AMD's HQ in Austin I bet?

Those trees aren't native to Austin and neither is the license plate on the truck!
09-19-2011, 01:49 PM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Let me answer this;
IF I was given 100 systems I'd say thank you but what I'd post is what I saw with my own eyes.
No one buys me and I mean no one ever.
What I saw did impress me and I think after 15 years in this game and almost 45 years in the workforce I can tell when someone is blowing smoke.
Sure there is marketing. There should be as that is their job.
What you will see from me when the time comes are benches that I performed myself and since you don't know me well I'll say that I'm far from the best of overclockers.
I stay on the conservative side with voltage.
Example, I had I think the first EVGA SR2 board in the US and when I benched it the max voltage I used was 1.45v and why?
X5680's aren't cheap and I couldn't afford to blow a pair of those at over $3500.00 pair.
Also I like to show "real world" numbers that most guys can match.
Thanks for reading.

Was just making a joke. No disrespect was intended.
09-19-2011, 01:53 PM
flyck

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Originally Posted by jogshy

Using a game ( Diret 3 ) to compare CPUs is just incomplete and innacurate ( because games don't use much CPU normally ).
I'll better wait for some SuperPI(for monothread), Lame, Cinebench, Prime and ray-tracing render times in both OC and non-OC versions.

Most benches have the possiblility to test 1 or more threads... you don't need SuperPI do that... If you don't like Dirt3 because it isn't representative (which i agree), you shouldn't like superPI.
09-19-2011, 01:54 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Was just making a joke. No disrespect was intended.

None taken.. Your still here aren't you?:D
09-19-2011, 01:57 PM
Pestilence

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Originally Posted by Movieman

None taken.. Your still here aren't you?:D

True :ROTF:
09-19-2011, 02:00 PM
SEA

It would be great to have BD released today...
But the only officially given dates from AMD were 1st half of 2011 from previous presentations,
then in july 2011 it became "in 60-90 days from now". So, officially it is expected in Sep-Oct.

All other dates are from "OBR agency" (Only Bullsh1t Repeating agency)...
09-19-2011, 02:36 PM
gallag

Every thing I have seen on bd to this point has been negitive and I had lost intrest, then dave posted and I am excited again, if its good enough for dave then it's good enough for me ;-)
09-19-2011, 02:43 PM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by god_43

does not explain dave's enthusiasm about the cpu. either way if its not here by Thursday, then i cannot wait anymore, and ill be buying an intel system.

I doubt your "threat" of buying intel over AMD if the CPU isn't released by your timeframe is going to do anything. AMD doesn't read this, I don't think most people care which one you get.

Only reason I'm saying something (before you say "ahh but you care otherwise you wouldn't have responded!!!") is you've mentioned this "threat" of buying an intel rig a few times now. So I'm just calling you out on it a little and am telling you to just buy whatever it is you want to buy, nobody here is gonna try to stop you or put up a fight if that's what you're looking for ;)
09-19-2011, 03:07 PM
insurgent

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

True :ROTF:

Edited..
Now I'm in a very good mood today and back from a vacation so also very mello
Consider yourself lucky today.
Movieman

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