XS Fan Review - Part 2

Round 3 has kicked into gear officially :D

Final list of fans:
Aerocool Turbine 1000 (950RPM)
Cooler Master SI2
Cooler Master Y720CCD-25K1-GP (2500RPM)
Cooler Master Y720SCB-12K1-GP (1200RPM)
Delta WFB1212ME
Delta WFB1212HE
Minebea 1600
Noctua P12*
S-Flex D
S-Flex E
S-Flex F
S-Flex G
San Ace 109R1212H1011
San Ace *************
Slip Stream L
Slip Stream M
Slip Stream H
Slip Stream SH
Ultra Kaze 1000
Ultra Kaze 2000
Ultra Kaze 3000
Xinruilian RDL1225B
Yate Loon SL (Petras)
Yate Loon SM (Petras)
Yate Loon SH (Petras)
Yate Loon D12SL-12C (20mm thick, non-Petras)
Yate Loon D12SM-12C (20mm thick, non-Petras)
Zalman ZM-F3
(Panaflo U1)

whats the little * next to the P12 mean?

A little something extra for the P12 ;)

Can't wait to see how the Delta WFB1212HE turns and the effect of the blade shape.

nice you have the Ultra Kaze 2000 there, I find doesn't scale well on a fan controller, noise/air flow ratio worse than S FLEX-F/Zalman F3 :/

whats a San Ace **************** ?????

*grasp* Yikes Round 3?!?! I can't wait to see the results!
Great news indeed. As always Vapor, keep up the good work! I've been a huge fan of your fan reviews since Round 1! :clap:

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Originally Posted by Vapor

Round 3 has kicked into gear officially :D

Final list of fans:
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Delta WFB1212HE
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Ultra Kaze 3000

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Yay!

Looking forward round 3!

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Originally Posted by Ar3s

whats a San Ace **************** ?????

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A San Ace that I censored out the model number :D

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Originally Posted by signalpst

*grasp* Yikes Round 3?!?! I can't wait to see the results!
Great news indeed. As always Vapor, keep up the good work! I've been a huge fan of your fan reviews since Round 1! :clap:

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Thanks :) Looking forward to this one more than the others really...Part 1 was kinda good, but had too many obscure fans that didn't perform very well, then Part 2 was the San Ace discovery (really though, old school watercoolers swore by them for a longtime, then they almost disappeared from our reach) and a lot of Yate Loon studying with a dash of Zalman and S-Flex goodness....but with this one I get to keep the S-Flex, the Zalman and the San Ace and add in some new fans that are getting very popular: P12, Ultra Kaze, and Slip Streams.

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Originally Posted by RealTelstar

Yay!

Looking forward round 3!

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I think one of the most interesting 'battles' will be the Ultra Kaze 3000 vs. Panaflo U1(A,BX,C). You can throw in the San Ace 109R1212H1011 in there too I guess, though they're basically unobtainable and twice the price. S-Flex G vs. Ultra Kaze 2000 vs. Yate Loon SH will also be fairly interesting, IMO. Then down the noise scale P12 vs. S-Flex E/F vs. Slip Stream M/H vs. YL SL. Then who knows if the 'new San Ace' or the Deltas or the Xinruilian or the Cooler Masters (or even the Turbine :lol:) can shake things up :)

Woh. Vapor, you got my heart racing :D. Round 3 babeh ^^
Looking forward to it :up:

Okay....got a surprise today...:D

Ordered Wednesday evening and this was here Friday noonish:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1...nspetrabp2.jpg

14 fans ordered from Petras. :p:

Now who wants so early numbers and first impressions? ;)

Me Me Me :D

Oh, you tease....:D.

Are you gonna create a new thread for round 3 or continue in this one?

Also, if you're still open to suggestions for fans, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the Scythe Kaze White fans (SY122512WH-VR)

It'll be in a new thread....the Kaze white seem to be very similar to the Slip Streams. And not available in the US. And unless there's a major release from one of the big players, the list is final.

Anyway, early numbers/impressions of some big hitters, all at 12V:

Ultra Kaze 3000 vs. San Ace H1011
Not even close. Basically the same CFM numbers but the Ultra Kaze is much louder and higher pitched.

S-Flex G vs. Slip Stream SH
Slip Stream SH pulls ~75CFM, S-Flex G at ~71.5CFM. But the Slip Stream is SIGNIFICANTLY louder. In fact, from a pure auditory standpoint, I'd almost rather run the 1900RPM S-Flex G over the 1600RPM Slip Stream H (~61CFM open air). Slip Streams are performing much better than I expected when pulling through a radiator though (from a %-loss point of view). I'm very surprised by the Slip Streams in many ways....I expected them to be quiet and extremely poor radiator performers. But they're loud and decent/good radiator performers.

Minebea 1600 vs. Slip Stream H
Minebea pulls ~63.5CFM, Slip Stream H pulls ~61CFM. Minebea is quieter. Identical radiator performance so far.

ADDENDUM:
My radiator testing seems 'off' compared to the previous rounds. Every fan so far is pulling higher-than-expected and higher-than-previously-tested numbers through the radiator. No clue why.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

Ultra Kaze 3000 vs. San Ace H1011
Not even close. Basically the same CFM numbers but the Ultra Kaze is much louder and higher pitched.

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If it wasnt impossible to find in europe I would have bought the san ace instead. Anyway, CFM are still top notch and I dont care bout noise :D

:up:

Yea I would have also gotten my hands on the San Ace as well. But apparently where I am at, I can only do a MO (mass order) of 60 fans which is equivalent to a box.
I can get a lot of fans, yateloons, sanyo denkis and what not but they all need to be purchased by boxes. -_-...

Vapor, nice teaser :D

For the Dutch:

http://link.marktplaats.nl/170334185

You may be thinking: huh that's not a 1011! Wel it is sorta, the only thing different are is the plug, you need to swap some wires into other holes. When you do that you practically have a 1011.

I bought 4 of them from the guy and the deal went smoothly. Only one of them is now broke but that's because I accidentely short circuited while I was messing around with my rheous. But they're great fans!

Pica:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7919/cimg0915ek0.jpg

What interest is there for 140mm fan testing? There will be no radiator data, however.

I would be greatly interested. I've always wanted to see if the difference between 120 and 140 mm is anything to take into consideration.

yeah I'd love to see numbers on the 140mm Yate Loons.

I'd love to see a test of the Aerocool turbine and/or white lightning 140's. (Tho they're 20mm-deep. But very pretty!)

was thinking of installing 140mms into the top of my case. wasn't sure how they would be tho. 140s seem like they would be nice for running low speed tho.

Same, I'd be interested in 140mm testing too :D

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Originally Posted by Vapor

What interest is there for 140mm fan testing? There will be no radiator data, however.

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interested fo' sho! 120 petra yate loon vs 140 petra yate loon making me antsy pantsy for results!!!

If you are going to be putting any fans into the top of the 690 (I recommend just blocking off those fan grills) then you should use 140mm - otherwise some of the exhaust air will come back in thru the holes around the fan(s) - it will also come back in thru the top ports access hole, IDK what could be done about that... It's because the top bezel of the 690 doesn't breathe very well - I recommend opening the plastic things that look like vents (but aren't) in the rear sides of the bezel for better breathing. Then there may not be quite such a back pressure. The 590 doesn't have that problem as it has no top bezel.

.bh.