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True the GTX preforms better when its bowed however neither block was bowed are you sure bowing would not also help the EnzoTech just as much if not more than the GTX? If your taking into account a modified base either bowed or stepped it should be equal on all blocks to determine performance since it could benefit each water block being tested trying to keep the testing equal should be preferred and provide more accurate testing data.
While I somewhat agree with you, the GTX ships BOWED now AFAIK so there is no flat anymore. Certainly the Enzo block would perform much better bowed but even better would be stepped :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadowtester
What I was trying to get at was you need to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges ie bowed to bowed and flat to flat to get a true comparison of the blocks performance. At a later or more involved comparison it would be great to see all current top blocks tested with flat, bowed, and stepped bases on both standard single core processors, dual core processors, and also quad core processors. But for early reviews We will take as much info as possible on the blocks performance as compared to some of the other top preforming blocks the more info the better.
Agreed but ALL FLAT BLOCKS meaning non bowed or non stepped will ALL perform in the same range... it can't be different, this is the limit of the IHS - It makes no difference how 'good' your block is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowtester
But several people use reviews like that one and the ones you do to help determine what are the best blocks available right now so the more even the testing conditions that are achieved when comparing blocks help give members an idea how the block should preform when compared to the other top blocks comparing it to a bowed or stepped block while its flat does not really give someone an idea of its performance or potential however if you test it against other top blocks under the same mounting conditions and testing conditions and it preforms almost exactly the same as the other blocks then someone could conclude that it was as good as the other tested blocks however if it tested say 1 to 2 C higher or lower then that would also let a person know what to expect.
sorry but testing a GTX not bowed is not realistic since they SHOULD be bowed.
There is no point to test them flat. We can`t even say that an enzotech will perform better bowed based on the flat test results.
Wrong. Any block would benefit from a bow or a step, this is a FACT (on IHS cpu's).Quote:
Originally Posted by leo_bsb
Bowed or not I can only say a sure thing about Apogee Gtx....the constructive quality is very very very poor compared to Enzotech and to Fuzion....Quote:
Originally Posted by leo_bsb
Can you do some testing between the SCW-1 and a bowed GTX ?Quote:
Originally Posted by vkbms
No, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xilikon
My Apogee GTX is in RMA..... :shakes:
Hi,
You can find a review here
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Bye&Smile
seems impressive, but i would like to know how many re-mounts they did... and if they averaged the data form the re-mounts or just ook the best results.
we have all seen claims of uberness based off one set of mountins during testing, which essentially tells us nothing when temperatures are within a degree or two
All in previous post..... 3 different mounting each block..... FuZion & Enzotech give me the same result each time....for Apogee Gtx the first mounting wasn't correct so i'll take emperature with 3rd mount....Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Unfortunately i haven't got a good strumentation ....i've to believe at coretemp.....
So anyone have an idea when the EnzoTech blocks will be available in North American online retailers? Also does anyone have any idea when the matching chip set block might also be available they make such a nice looking matched set.
PEBCAKQuote:
Originally Posted by vkbms
what does that mean?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
"The Apogee™ GTX is... shipped with a spare oversized body o-ring for users who wish to optimize their own setup"
The GTX is shipped flat and the end user is provided with the O-ring to bow the block if the end user wants to. Its a one-way street.
As with most issues... PEBCAK
It's actually quite rude and should warrant a ban. It means "Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard". Ian is just upset that vkbms is giving his opinion which differs from Ian's, seems Ian's opinion is always different unless it is in relation to Swiftech, which of course then it is all :cheer: out of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
On a side note, I do believe the Enzo block could be a champ of them all - just needs some tweaks.
Great... Ban me, please. Spare me the melodrama. Save it for the movie studios around the corner where you live.
Actually it's amuzing:rofl: .Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1
I called Enzotech again and am totally frustrated at there lack of response so it looks as if I'm going to the swiftech too cool off the Q6600 and the 8800ultra. Just not sure how good the gpu cooler is. I'm a big fan of Dangerden ( loyalty issue more then anything else :) ) but the workmanship is just not as well refined as other watercooling block alternatives.
Is that how it works? If the opinion is different from yours... yours.. then it *must* be wrong... I feel myself pressured against the wall here.. no breathing room... the crush on my chest from your ego is horrific.
vkbms probably just got a defective block. Most aren't that way I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
And therefore, it is appropriate to launch a tirade with sweeping generalizations...Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Melodrama you started yourself :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
If vkbms is doing a RMA on the GTx, it is probably defective and the results with a good one might show it as the winner against the SCW-1... The only way to be sure is to have 1-2 other guys do the review like nikhsub1.
Ease up there buddy. If PEBCAK warrants a ban, so does your little fan boy comment. Can't we all just get along? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1