It depends on usage - I had my folding 24/7 and lasted a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
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It depends on usage - I had my folding 24/7 and lasted a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Uhm, can I introduce you to himQuote:
You're wrong - it's the board no matter what EVGA claims. I've had my OCZ 8500 dims damaged by the board - got rid of it and bought the Asus P5B deluxe, put in the OCZ replaced ram and am running them at 2.4 without a hiccup - the board sucks.
I've seen it on other forums as well. There are people losing DDR2 to voltages over 2.3V after a month or two on other non Nvidia reference boards. There are also those that are running Dominators at 2.4V on Nvidia boards since November with no problems still. It has got to do with the variances in how these RAM manufacturers are binning their chips. Micron chips are not manufactured to run at 1066MHz and beyond, that's just a stupid marketing ploy that many of us fell for and are now paying for in RMA shipping. Just my opinion.....Quote:
There is no such thing as high voltage ddr2 memory. I killed 3 different setts of ram on 3 different motherboards. OCZ flex xlc pc9200 on a p5wdh stick that was in slot 3. OCZ alpha titanium pc 8000 on a intel BX2 mb slot3. Corsair pc 8500 c5 on a commando mb in slot3 also. And would u like to know how i managed this? By running the sticks over 2.2v for any length of time. Its funny when i here people say that they have to pull one stick out to boot. if i install any pair of high end d9 chips that are brand new into a motherboard It will boot everytime at stock voltage of 1.8v. BuT if i run that same memory over 2.2v for any length of time Those sticks will never boot again at 1.8v. I realize some memory specs say 2.3-2.4v But take it from a guy who learned the expensive way., Keep them under 2.2v.
your just wrong buddy, DDR2 is a gamble over 2.2v 24/7 no matter what board used just like alot of respected XS members have said eons ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
fact remains a hell of a lot of ppl who have bought the evga 680i boards are complete noobs and have no idea what the hell they're doing when overclocking ....spend 10mins on evga forums and you'll get my drift. so the apparent result is it's the board killing the dimms.....it's not the board it's ppl killing the ram.
don't be surprised if your new RAM also dies with your non 680i board in the near future.
It's definitely a gamble, I do agree - it's XTREME;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mouawad
that's right...........if you choose to run DDR2 no matter what ICs over that vdimm for 24/7 you are going to kill the RAM eventually regardless of the motherboards used.................my RAM works at 2.0v for 24/7......why is it necessary to run the RAM at 2.4v eekQuote:
Originally Posted by mouawad
it's extreme because we bench at extreme not because we run 24/7 systems at absolute extreme....that's just unnecessary reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Think
unless you think you are going to open pages quicker if you run 4GHz on CPU instead of 3GHz :D hehehe
folding....well it will improve but why not just buy a PS3 and be done with it heheheh :D
Now that you mentioned it, I actually toned down my PC over a month ago and just picked up a PS3 on a trade - incredible folding power - running 24/7:)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
Ok..are you saying the rated 2.2v is going to kill the ram or anything over 2.2v...ie 2.25v, 2.3v.....
Hmm..what the symptoms of dying ram....never had any die and wonder if my issues are related to my ram
there is no fine line here but we know the close you get to severe electron migration the higher the chances of RAM dying.....Tony from OCZ is saying 2.5v is the start of the severe level so you need to know if you run your RAM which are designed originally to operate at 1.8v from Micron for example and binned higher (meaning manufacturers just overclock these to sell them for more money) you are increasing your chances of RAM dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
i don't see the point of running RAM past 2.2v IN 24/7 SYSTEMS (benching is a different story :D).....i would stick to that max which is a value i personally think is high enough...i can't tell you whether that is the limit where RAM has a much higher percentage chance of staying alive or not though.....
here is the source thread where Tony talks about this
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=124399
and only a week later they release that watercooled RAM with warranty protection at 2.5v ROFL hahahah
why is the 680 the only board that has killed ram of mine even at stock volts. Nvidia have confirmed that in some cases that 2.3 vdimm sometimes spikes. In the last 3 years i have had atleast 20 motherboards(a big mix of brands and models) and only the 680i is the one i lost ram with(4 sticks 2 at stock voltage and 2 at 2.5v benching for only a few minutes at a time). some was at stock volts and some was at 2.5vQuote:
Originally Posted by TouGe
I think my evga 680i killed my 8500c5d as well. I was running them at spec (ddr2-1066, 5-5-5-15-2T, 2.2v). Now they fail memtest in that board (obviously) as well as fail memtest in a DFI icfx3200-T2R. If setting the memory options in the 680i bios in accordance with corsair's specifications makes me a hardware killing noob, then I guess I should just get rid of all of this and play with legos.
you got airflow on those sticks @ 2.2v?Quote:
Originally Posted by theystolemyname
my crucial anniversarys run pretty hot under stress even at 1.9-2.0v but i have my radiator fans putting some nice air over them so it's ok but i wouldn't like to leave them unattended with 2.2v 24/7 thats for sure.
Your correct it was my fault because i paid for the board how on earth could it be the boards fault. next time i will make sure to ask for a board that doesn't kill ram if i ever buy from EVGA ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TouGe
i think its a mixture of both........i have had two 680i boards kill my ram, one a P5N32-E SLI and the other is my evga 680i......its not evga its the 680i chipset, on the ASUS motherboard there is a sticker wich says board is only covered under warranty with memory on the supported list because of the 680i chipset, so im sure ASUS is aware of this issue.
http://www.evga.com/articles/350.asp
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Originally Posted by darckcrystal
THIS IS BASICALLY SAYING YES PEOPLE ARE KILLING RAMQuote:
Important message regarding memory and the EVGA 680i motherboard
NVIDIA has investigated end user reports of high performance DIMM failures on the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI-based platforms. During this process we have been in close contact with DIMM manufacturers and the DRAM manufacturers they rely on to understand the failure scenario. By working with our community, we believe that the observed failure is a breakdown of the silicon in the DRAM caused by the prolonged application of 2.4V on the voltage rails of the DIMMs.
NVIDIA’s own internal testing has observed this failure on multiple motherboards using different chipsets (both NVIDIA and non-NVIDIA chipsets). This issue is not directly related to motherboards using the NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI MCP or other chipsets.
If you are using this type of memory and are experiencing this issue, NVIDIA recommends contacting your memory manufacturer or system manufacturer for additional information and warranty information.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMPLY RUNNING TOO HIGH A VDIMM ON OUR AND OTHER CHIPSET MOTHERBOARDS
hehehe and I just got a 680I.
oh boy which part of that statement are you guys not reading rightQuote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
they tested other chipsets......................so we can assume they would have had P965/975/RD600 since they are competing ones and found the RAM is dying the same way
so if you got any motherboard or chipset popular today you would have made the same statement
no?
I understand what is being said as, that it seems its the RAM and over volting, not the boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
yeah i guess your post can be interpreted a few different waysQuote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
i always actively cool my RAM and ive never had a set die on me for a long time, not since I ran 3.6V into a set of ballistix ddr. :p:
ive now been running up to 2.5V on this board into my various sticks and they are all fine. this board is great. :D
And if the 680i was responsible, even in a small part, do you think nvidia would hold up their hand ??? :rolleyes:
I'm pretty damn sure they would not :fact: :slapass:
why do you say thatQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
and yeah just to add another casualty count .. i was setting 2.2v in bios ... for 24/7 speed ... funny how i was able to achieve 1200 5-4-4-10 with jsut 2.2v ...