Nice work The Coolest!
CPU sensor reads ~10C higher then my DFI here :)
Nice work The Coolest!
CPU sensor reads ~10C higher then my DFI here :)
Yes I see that. :p: Funny to think about isn't it? A common proceedure even here at XS(which made sense at the time) is to adjust the heatsink/water block while watching the temperature and getting the lowest temp. If the thermal diode read from motherboard is an average of both diodes it would be possible to still get a lowest "average temperature", but averaged way out of balance per core.(i.e 14 and 27 would average 20c) Seems a worthless technique now. If the accuracy of "Core Temp" is in question, it's ability to check for even cooling is not. Another thing is a bit interesting is Sorrow13's Opteron 165 above mine, also has a large difference between the cores. I'll have to go back over the 8 pages and look for other 165's to see any pattern. Kind of mind boggling too that this mounting (5th time) was the only mounting I could prime for 4 hours at 3150Mhz at 1.6v, where I could bearly work in windows with other mountings, and had coolest average temp in BIOS. But yet it looks the worst mounting with this application.Quote:
With that big of a Gap between your cores I would try to reseat your water bloack as you probably have bad contact.
Not sure how to respond to this........but.... that's the point. There are 3 or 4 people that are getting below ambient readings where it is impossible to do in the real world. I think we all know that and are questioning the completeness of this application in it's current build.Quote:
There is no way u could cool below ambient with water cooling without cooling it actively like with a chiller or sticking the radiator in a frigde/bucket of ice. things like that.
Anyone have any idea why it's not reading my newcastle correctly? still reads 40c at idle with watercooling when the ambient is a lot lower AND I had ice water running through it.
Ok lets see.
Regarding calculation of the temp. The TCaseMax - Value, that's for Intel CPUs. On AMD the app reads a value from the CPU, substructs 49 from it and that is supposed to be the temperature.
I am not sure why there are so much reports of two cores with drastically different readings, and why some go below ambient. The only logical thing I can think of is bad callibration on AMDs part, as this feature was still undocumented and not used officially for these chips.
Regarding the Newcastle. As stated above not all DTS are perfect, so I guess not all of them will work properly. The Newcaste is 3 revisions behind the official announcement of this feature.
Regarding even temp readings on dual cores, the only time I've seen someone really equalize his temps was in the first post on the 5th page. The are many IHS-less running with very different temperature though.
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Originally Posted by turbotoaster
just incase anybody missed it, for those with different temps on each core
my HSF doesnt have screws.. it has clips. I'll try to press it in different ways to see how the temp changes.
edit:
The cores are reverse.. core 1 in taskmanager = core 1 in CoreTemp, core 0 in task manager = core 2 in CoreTemp. I tried to press the hsf from different sides but no use.. my 2nd core gets very hot for some reason when i run prime (60C+) When i run prime on only first core then temps are about same on both cores.. but when im priming on both or 2nd core.. then that one is ~10C more. Im afraid to run prime now :(
guys again can anyone email me this prg since the download link doesn't work for me
is there something wrong for IPs from Egypt ??
email is ahmad.okda (AT)gmail.com
It's a great app, but the thread should read AM2 and Intel Core temp monitoring tool. My poor 'old' Opteron won't work ;(
That's what I'm beginning to believe. I don't understand why one of the cores almost always seem to give results that are probably close to being accurate though.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
That's not always a solution. But it would be nice if by adjusting the HS I could bring both cores below ambient temps (lol).Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotoaster
Email sentQuote:
Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
It works for most K8 chips and should work on your Opteron. Maybe post up your text dump for the coolest to look at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickster_64
I was hoping it'd work on Dothans too but I guess not. :(
I'm still totally lost as what these temp readings should do or prevent from happening... the Tcore temp seems to have much more sense then the TCaseMax thing..
All AMD chips have a TControlMax temp which ensures proper operation until that temp is reached. TControlMax is documented in AMD's tech files with specifics per CPU... mine is set for 70°C
TCaseMax is generated by factors unknown... core contact, TIM, IHS.. who knows...
For us it's much more important to know the TControlMax and the TDP so we know how much heat we need to dissipate from the CPU to stay well below safe margins... as we all know it's best to keep your CPU under 50°C....
Also if my TCaseMax represents my max oporational temperature (57°C) before my CPU starts to degrade then why doesn't DFI let me set a thermal shutdown in my BIOS for 50°C or 55°C?
Don't get me wrong I like the program... even though I already had the coretemp feature in Everest but I think people are making the wrong assumptions when it comes to link the temperatures to the CPU.
I tried on my system, and am getting 35c and 40c respectively on core1 and core2... Not a huge difference...
I like this, I also tryed NXSENSOR, and it reported the same thing, the Fintek chip on the mobo, and the CPU diode, which matched the coretemp app., and what speed fan reported.
Load:
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/19714423730.jpg
Idel:
http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/19714431237.jpg
Hmm my temp reading with coretemp so high....77c... IHS removed + watercooled with BIX3
Idle
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idleam7.jpg
Load
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadgg9.jpg
any advise?
i like this program,
alot of people reporting HIGHER temperatures than what speedfan/mbm is reporting,
im actually getting a few degrees lower, die temperatures are about -28 in coretemp and -26'ish in mbm when idling,
strange thing is though, my core2 reads the above, but my core1 is always reading -65, which couldnt possibly be right!
Ok..d/led new vewer version
Idle
core 1 22
core 2 24
Large fft P95
start P95 core 1
core1 only temp goes to 38c
core2 36C
P95 both cores
start core 2
core 1 47/48C
core 2 39/40
stop...
start P95 core 2 only
core1 45C
core2 36C
something seems very weird....why would core 1 temp rise so much with P95 only running on core 2....
the temp sensor/calibration can be correct.....
-65? The minimum this program should be able to report on an AMD is -49C. can you upload a few screenshots and a txt dump of GCPUID (after Core Temp ran)
I'm also getting a 10 degree difference on my x2 4200, but I know its not bad IHS contact because I took it off, lapped it (not the core side, the HSF side), and re-attached it with AS5.
ya.. just wondering with 3200+ venice @ 2.2 + watercooling on load i get 77c with coretemp... imagine if using standard HSF :confused:
Works great on my system! I'm about 3-4°C under the reading from my dfi board and it shows much higher temps, then 99% of the other ones. Thx! :)
WOOHOO!!! I finally tried this and i actually get REAL readings!! 45C load, 32 idle. 48c load with fan @ 5v (completely silent)
Here is my experiences with Core Temp:
Opty 170 (see sig for details)
at idle:
(core1 =36degC, core2=41degC)
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1...idleyl6.th.jpg
w/ toast.exe running on core 0:
(core1 =43degC, core2=52degC)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1...ore0rc3.th.jpg
w/ toast.exe running on core 1:
(core1 =61degC, core2=55degC)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5...ore1yq1.th.jpg
w/ 2x toast.exe running (1 per core):
(core1 =66degC, core2=64degC)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...oreswa5.th.jpg
some questions:
1) how can my opty 170 only be 35 watts?
2) if TcaseMAX is correct (49degC), why doesn't my cpu crash?
3) why does core 2 (in this program) read almost loaded temp, when core 1 is the only core w/ a load?
I must fix that.
49C is the result of '0' reported by the register, previously there were specs for 49C TCM, in a later revision of the document AMD said that 49C was not used anymore. If I had to guess it'd be that chips that have over 71C TCM (max that can be reported), are given '0', so they put out more wattage probably than what the max AMD rating is.
But I am not AMD and I can't be 100% sure, this is just my opinion.
Next rev will have 49C\35W removed.