Dothan @ CT-479 - howto and fixes.

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07-17-2005, 01:53 AM
jrw

Dont have the board resting directly on the table. Use spacers or similar.
07-17-2005, 02:02 AM
jiang2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peteri

My few cents, correct me if I'm wrong.
The AGP clock might really be the case here, if you've got an ATI card that is (no problem like this with NVIDIA I've heard and also experienced). Try booting at exactly 200*12 and the clock should work.

Might relate to the problem I'm about to explain in the next answer, not sure.
There's this problem with changing multi in BIOS. It seems that the BIOS sets the FSB first and the multi a bit later. So in your case the system should be able to run at 250*(whatever your stock multi is) for a while and just then it changes it to 10. Now, 250 times the stock multi is a long shot with any PM, so I really hope there will be a solution for this in the near future (please someone inform me if there already is).

1. I TRY 200*12, THE SYSTEM TOLD ME,ONE FILE NEEDED IN START SECSION
IS DAMAGED, PLS REINSTALL. BUT ONCE I START 201*12, NO PROBLEM.
SO I THINK 200 IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR ME. BUT 201 IS FINE.
2. I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE START SCHEDULE YOU THOUGHT.
I THINK THIS IS A BUG IN BIOS, WISH WE COULD GET IMPROVED ONE LATER
3. BUT EVEN 250*10 IN WINXP, IT IS NOT STRONG AS MY 208*12.
BECAUSE WHEN I USE 208*12, RAM IS 4:5, CLOCK 260 MHZ,
BUT IF 250*10, 250 MHZ ONLY. AND 2.5G IS THE MAX OF MY PM
UNDER THIS TEMP., IF I COULD GET MUCH LOWER TEMP., SAY 10C,
I BELIEVE 2.54 IS POSSIBLE.
07-17-2005, 02:07 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegeta

Forgot to plug the powerconnector of the adapter? :D
Or didn't closed the lock of the socket with a screwdriver ? :)

Nope did both :)
07-17-2005, 02:07 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

Dont have the board resting directly on the table. Use spacers or similar.

Its all mounted in my case, so that is not the problem.
07-17-2005, 02:11 AM
jiang2005

I Think The Limit Of Clock In Starting Schedule Is 3.0g.
For Example, Pm 1.86g, Multi Is 14, Then When Starting,
You Can Not Pass 3000/14=214 , What Ever Multi You Are Using.
If 730 1.6g, Then The Limit Is 3000/11=272
If 740 1.73g, Limit Is 3000/12=250
I Do Not Know Whether It Is Correct. I Just Guess.
07-17-2005, 02:14 AM
vegeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

Its all mounted in my case, so that is not the problem.

The board does boot with the Celeron? Have you checked if the bios is really flashed to the latest? :) . Cleared CMOS?
Sorry for those ridicule questions of me :p:, but I can't really think of anything else that could went wrong :slap:
07-17-2005, 02:24 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegeta

The board does boot with the Celeron? Have you checked if the bios is really flashed to the latest? :) . Cleared CMOS?
Sorry for those ridicule questions of me :p:, but I can't really think of anything else that could went wrong :slap:

That is ok, you are just trying to help me.

Yes it boots fine with the Celeron and the bios version is 023 according to boot up screen. I did clear CMOS which erased the settings, but didn't help me getting it going.
07-17-2005, 05:15 AM
Paxal

I got it to boot!!!

I read through the entire thread and found that some people are having problems with their PSU. I therefor disconnected everything and now it is booting, so I guess it was a PSU problem. Can anyone recommend a PSU since it seems I need to get a new one, it has to be low noise.
07-17-2005, 05:47 AM
jrw

I like my PowerStream 520. Never had any issues with it. If you're planning to run SLI/Crossfire anytime soon, you might need another I dont know...
07-17-2005, 06:07 AM
olDirdey

It must be something with the bios that you can boot at higher FSB. With older Bios for P4C800-E it was possible for a lot of people from hwluxx.de to boot with 300mhz and more.

With actual bios 23 you can change multiplier, but can´t boot with high fsb.

In my case maximum FSB I can boot with is 265MHz with 2.26G Dothan.

In Windows I can easily set over 300MHz, first at 325MHz the systems hangs.

I think we can fix it if there is anybody who can compare older P4C800-E Bios without multiplier option with new 23 one
07-17-2005, 11:24 AM
Paxal

Can I trust the temp readout in bios on the Asus P4C800 board, or are they totally of?

I also need RAM recommendations. I'm thinking some sticks that use TCCD chips as they don't require as high voltage as the BH5. Btw I'm from Denmark.
07-17-2005, 04:28 PM
gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg
07-17-2005, 05:53 PM
gocchin

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg

Is it possible I screwed up the adapter? I originally had the jumpers on 2 + 5 and 3 + 6 rather than 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? Is it possible that shorted out the adpater?
07-17-2005, 09:59 PM
Paxal

Without being sure, I would say that it is very possible that you created a short that fried the adapter.
07-18-2005, 12:02 AM
wylxn

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg

try to clear the bios and use the adapter
07-18-2005, 12:28 AM
wylxn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

I'm having a problem!

My Epox 8RDA crapped out on me 2 days ago, and I decided to use it as an excuse to upgrade. After surfing this forum for a while I decided that I was going to try the Pentium M. I received a brand new set yesterday with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe, Asus CT-479 adapter and a Pentium M 730.

My motherboard came with bios version 19, so I went out and bought a cheap Celeron that I used to flash the board to the beta bios. I then changed to the Pentium M (installed with a Zalman 7700CU) and pressed the button all excited... but nothing happened. Power comes on, hdd starts up, fans are spinning and so on but it never starts booting. As if no CPU is present. I have now also tried with bios version 23, but it is the same problem.

Did I run into a non working CPU or adapter, or is there something else I can try? I'm not sure how to test if they are working.

i have the same case before. my770 die is broken .check your 730 die. maybe the same
07-18-2005, 02:47 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by wylxn

i have the same case before. my770 die is broken .check your 730 die. maybe the same

I got it working but thank you. It seemed that it was a PSU problem, but now everythin is running fine.

I have just started fidling with the OC, and it seems that I got one of the 730 models that cant go over around 2550MHz.

Also I cant boot over 220MHz FSB at all, but with Clockgen I can go to 250+MHz so it seems to be a bios problem.
07-18-2005, 05:35 AM
Paxal

So far the best results I'm getting are:

30sec SuperPi = 210MHz * 12 @ 2.2.2.5
31sec SuperPi = 252MHz * 10 @ 2,5.4.4.8

Both done at 1.55v
07-18-2005, 06:59 AM
bhoward

I too am having trouble getting much over 2.5g

Here is my stuff
P4P800SE with lastest BIOS
CT-479
PM 730 @ 1.6V (1.584 actual)
Corsair Twinx PC3200XL
ATI X800XT (540Core, 560Memory)
Stock Heatsink
Temp Idle = 34c, Load = 43c

I cannot boot over 210mHz

Can do in windows
12 x 211mhz (2-2-2-5)
11 x 230 (2-2-2-5)
10 x 250 (2-3-3-6)
9 x 280 (2.5-3-3-6)

Over these speeds I get reboots or hangs. Must be the CPU limit I guess.

At 9 x 280, SuperPI = 28sec, 3DMarK2001 = 32K

Will a Zalman 7000cu make a difference? Any other things I could try to get 2.7g?
07-18-2005, 07:21 AM
bhoward

Me again.

Apparently I will need longer screws to mount the Zalman 7000cu. What Size and length will I need? (ie #6-32, 3/4" long)

Thanks
07-18-2005, 09:58 AM
Paxal

I had no problem mounting the Zalman 7700CU with the stock brackets, you just turn everything upside down, and it fits very nicely.

I seem to be having some graphics problems though. Prime 95 has been running for about 6 hours with no errors, but when I try to do a 3DMark 2001 i exits the test with an error saying that "Display window lost focus". When I'm in a game it randomly pops out to Windows desktop, and I can then alt-tab back into the game. Very strange, not really sure what to do.
07-18-2005, 10:00 AM
Jericho

Sounds like GFX card driver problem
07-18-2005, 10:46 AM
charlie

The 7700 and 7000 mount very differently.

The 7000 requires you to remove the fan and rotor and flip the mounting bracket "upside down"...

The 7700 require ONLY that you use the "s" type brackets and flip them upside down when mounted on the integral mounting bracket, WITHOUT disassembing the 7700.
07-18-2005, 11:03 AM
hmsrolst

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

The 7700 and 7000 mount very differently.

The 7000 requires you to remove the fan and rotor and flip the mounting bracket "upside down"...

The 7700 require ONLY that you use the "s" type brackets and flip them upside down when mounted on the integral mounting bracket, WITHOUT disassembing the 7700.

From your, or others', experience, between the 7700 and the 7000, is there any greater risk in cracking a core? Any difference in noisiness?
07-18-2005, 12:04 PM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmsrolst

From your, or others', experience, between the 7700 and the 7000, is there any greater risk in cracking a core? Any difference in noisiness?

I'm very happy with my 7700CU. Easy to install and not that big a risk of cracking the core if you are just a little careful. I'm running mine at the lowest setting and it is very quiet.
07-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jericho

Sounds like GFX card driver problem

I have now tried another driver with the same result. I have also tried to run the test without overclocking the CPU and it is the same problem. I will now try and get my hands on another GFX card.
07-18-2005, 10:57 PM
Sume4

Heres one stupid question more. Have i got it right that P4GD1 does not support lowering CPU multi?... and are there any better FSB/DRAM than 4/5? So if i run with that divider with my 760 i can do something like 250 with my ddr and 200fsb with the cpu which is 15*200 3000mhz? I just cant think of me getting that lucky to hit that high corespeeds even with my W/C.
07-18-2005, 11:29 PM
Paxal

29sec 1M SP = 12*214 with timings @ 2.2.2.5
29sec 1M SP = 9*288 with timings @ 2,5.3.3.7

Vcore set to 1.6 but actual is 1.54
07-19-2005, 02:49 PM
charlie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sume4

Heres one stupid question more. Have i got it right that P4GD1 does not support lowering CPU multi?... and are there any better FSB/DRAM than 4/5? So if i run with that divider with my 760 i can do something like 250 with my ddr and 200fsb with the cpu which is 15*200 3000mhz? I just cant think of me getting that lucky to hit that high corespeeds even with my W/C.

You can adjust the multi on your desktop with a software proggie. Just boot up like normal, let's say a 760, so 15 x 133... or 140, or 150 whatever...

You load up windows and you open your EIST program, change multi to 11. Then use clcokgen, another software proggie to adjust your fsb to about 250, sync with your DDR. Depending on your ram type this should be feasible.

THEN, you're running at 11 x 250 = 2750mHz, sync with ram running 250mHz (DDR500) which is nice. I can recommend TCCD like that in MUSHKIN PC4400 to run up to about 280 on the Dothan with a P4C800. But for this board I'd recommend someting that'll run 250 at cas2.

C
07-19-2005, 10:07 PM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

You can adjust the multi on your desktop with a software proggie. Just boot up like normal, let's say a 760, so 15 x 133... or 140, or 150 whatever...

You load up windows and you open your EIST program, change multi to 11. Then use clcokgen, another software proggie to adjust your fsb to about 250, sync with your DDR. Depending on your ram type this should be feasible.

THEN, you're running at 11 x 250 = 2750mHz, sync with ram running 250mHz (DDR500) which is nice. I can recommend TCCD like that in MUSHKIN PC4400 to run up to about 280 on the Dothan with a P4C800. But for this board I'd recommend someting that'll run 250 at cas2.

C

Thx

So basically i cant boot with high fsb and are "forced" to run my rig in 24/7 use with multi 15. But if i can do like 2800mhz with low fsb its not THAT slow :p:
07-19-2005, 10:16 PM
jiang2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

You can adjust the multi on your desktop with a software proggie. Just boot up like normal, let's say a 760, so 15 x 133... or 140, or 150 whatever...

You load up windows and you open your EIST program, change multi to 11. Then use clcokgen, another software proggie to adjust your fsb to about 250, sync with your DDR. Depending on your ram type this should be feasible.

THEN, you're running at 11 x 250 = 2750mHz, sync with ram running 250mHz (DDR500) which is nice. I can recommend TCCD like that in MUSHKIN PC4400 to run up to about 280 on the Dothan with a P4C800. But for this board I'd recommend someting that'll run 250 at cas2.

C

CHARLIE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I CAN BE STABLE ON 2.5G 208*12 RAM 4:5
I CAN BE STABLE IN WINXP USING CLOCKGEN AND EIST ON 10*250
BUT I CAN NOT BOOT BY 10*250, WHEN SETTING LIKE THIS IN COMS
THE SYSTEM CAN NOT PAST.
AND WHAT'S MORE, WHEN I SET IN WINXP AT 10*250, THE MAX FPS IN
GAME LOWER DOWN.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT IS BY 208*12, THE MAX FPS IS 99
BUT IF SET IN WINXP 10*250, THE MAX FPS IS 83
I DO NOT KNOW WHY.
I TRIED 201*12 BOOT,THEN SET AT 10*250, NOTHING CHANGED.
I TRIED 201*10 BOOT, SAME RESULT.
WHY IS THAT? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMS SETTING AND
WINXP SETTING?
07-19-2005, 10:39 PM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sume4

Thx

So basically i cant boot with high fsb and are "forced" to run my rig in 24/7 use with multi 15. But if i can do like 2800mhz with low fsb its not THAT slow :p:

Correct there seems to be a bios limitation on how high a FSB you can boot with at the moment. You do have to boot above 200MHz though to make the AGP/PCI lock work.

As you can see from my score further up, it seems that the Dothan really like thight timings as my SuperPi score is the same with the low FSB and good timings as it is with a high FSB and relaxed timings. I'm not done experimenting yet but I think I will stick to the low FSB.

For everyday use it's also way to much work imo having to lower multiplier and raise FSB with software after you turn on your computer. I want my computer to be ready to use when I turn it on.
07-19-2005, 11:38 PM
hmsrolst

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

For everyday use it's also way to much work imo having to lower multiplier and raise FSB with software after you turn on your computer. I want my computer to be ready to use when I turn it on.

Both of these programs can be run as batch programs automatically when Windows starts which results in a small lag. How to do it is described on page 5 of this thread.
07-20-2005, 12:47 AM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

Correct there seems to be a bios limitation on how high a FSB you can boot with at the moment. You do have to boot above 200MHz though to make the AGP/PCI lock work.

As you can see from my score further up, it seems that the Dothan really like thight timings as my SuperPi score is the same with the low FSB and good timings as it is with a high FSB and relaxed timings. I'm not done experimenting yet but I think I will stick to the low FSB.

For everyday use it's also way to much work imo having to lower multiplier and raise FSB with software after you turn on your computer. I want my computer to be ready to use when I turn it on.

The only difference is that i have p-m 760 and 15 multi... so with 200 fsb on boot i would have 3ghz. And i think in P4GD1 the locks DONT work whatever you do?
07-20-2005, 03:20 AM
bhoward

I boot at a multi of 9 x 210 then in the StartUp I run SetFSB to set the FSB to 280mhz.

You do not even notice it (hardly ...).
07-20-2005, 07:38 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhoward

I boot at a multi of 9 x 210 then in the StartUp I run SetFSB to set the FSB to 280mhz.

You do not even notice it (hardly ...).

What timings are you running your RAM at?
What is your SuperPi 1M score?
07-20-2005, 08:45 AM
bhoward

I have Corsair PC3200XL running at 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.85v. I sure it can go higher!

Super PI is 28.2 sec
3DMark2001 is 32K with ATI x800xt @ 540Core/560Mem

This is much faster than my 2.4a @ 3.9
PI was 34sec, 3DMark2001 was 24K

The computer "feels" faster and more responsive. :) :banana:

Just wish I could hit 2.7 like everyone else. I have a poor CPU, I believe. :(
07-20-2005, 10:59 AM
Gautam

Went through four of em, only two could pass 2.7 gigs. :-/ 2.8 is totally a pipedream.
07-20-2005, 03:25 PM
Jericho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Went through four of em, only two could pass 2.7 gigs. :-/ 2.8 is totally a pipedream.

Pipedream ?

Plenty of ppl have managed 2.7 or 2.8 on better cooling
07-20-2005, 03:32 PM
bcn

he meant on AIR! :)
07-20-2005, 04:13 PM
Jericho

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcn

he meant on AIR! :)

Me too. Im talking better then the std HSF.

Not much in it between Air and water with these.
07-20-2005, 07:17 PM
bhoward

I am planning on testing a Zalman 7000cu and the Zalman Resonator with both passive and active cooling.

I could also dig out my Mach1 for some testing ..... I guess (PITA)

Maybe with the Resonator, I can get to 2.7g??
07-20-2005, 09:45 PM
pifreak

how about starting a thread to get a better picture to see what users get with each model/cooling/voltages
07-21-2005, 12:05 AM
jrw

Quote:

Originally Posted by pifreak

how about starting a thread to get a better picture to see what users get with each model/cooling/voltages

Good idea. An overclocking result / stepping database on Dothans.
You could start off by condensing the info in the Dothan Overclocking thread that is relevant...
07-21-2005, 09:05 AM
NiCKE^

So if I flash a P4P800 with a P4P800 Deluxe bios I will be able to change all options, vcore/divider/fsb/multi ?
07-22-2005, 03:03 AM
Stigggeh

i think i have got my 740 stable (passes occt) at 2777 @1.49v (252x11) - zalman 7000 cooled

using a P4C800 (non 'E' ) deluxe - needed soldered volt mod because i could not go over 1.4v even with pin mod.

also tried the bios from an 'E' deluxe gave me opportunity to change multi, but Vcore was still the same.

I also emailed Asus to see when they would bring out a bios to 'officially' support CT479

Quote:

Thank you for contacting Asus United KingdomTechnical Support.

Due to design differences in the boards it is unlikely that the P4C800 Deluxe will be supported by this product.

Regards

Asus UK Technical Support

which is strange i thought it was only the LAN and RAID what was different
07-22-2005, 04:40 AM
Sume4

I dont know if someone else has already asked this but...

Why doesnt my P4GD1 and CT-479 with 760 doesnt even post? :(

All powerconnectors are connected. And the MB led is on. And there are no beeps or so to give me some clue what is wrong with that set.
:wth:
07-22-2005, 05:01 AM
Nazaar

update your bios first.
07-22-2005, 05:53 AM
simplyadvanced

i just updated the latest beta bios of the p4p800 se and i cant change FSB at all. any info that i missed?
07-22-2005, 06:45 AM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazaar

update your bios first.

It is updated
:rolleyes:

I have also tried jumpers in 133 and 100 mode.
07-22-2005, 08:41 AM
NiCKE^

Wee I will join the Dothan club soon ;) I've ordered a 730, Ct-479 and a P4GD1 ;)
07-22-2005, 08:49 AM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Wee I will join the Dothan club soon ;) I've ordered a 730, Ct-479 and a P4GD1 ;)

Yeah if u dont have the sme problems as i do ;)
07-22-2005, 08:53 AM
NiCKE^

What problems do you got Sume4?
07-22-2005, 09:00 AM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

What problems do you got Sume4?

I cant get it to boot... there comes no picture in my screen.
07-22-2005, 09:01 AM
NiCKE^

Have you flashed with the bios that enable CT-479 support?
07-22-2005, 09:49 AM
jrw

The Asus P4GD1/CT-497 experience by Kamerat.

Excellent work! :D

He might help you guys out...
07-22-2005, 09:52 AM
Sume4

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Have you flashed with the bios that enable CT-479 support?

Yes it has been flashed
:rolleyes:
07-22-2005, 09:58 AM
NiCKE^

Hms, doesn't sound too good but I expect that I will be lucky ;)
07-22-2005, 11:38 AM
Razor_Sniper

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1056/2950bg.th.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/62/3dmark27kz.th.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/9...ast41wz.th.jpg

Crappy mem and have 2 find a way 2 raise vcore higher ( something with my mobo... 1.6=1.425... )
07-22-2005, 11:58 AM
Stigggeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor_Sniper

Crappy mem and have 2 find a way 2 raise vcore higher ( something with my mobo... 1.6=1.425... )

did with mine, was a pain, even with wire mod only 1.408

do the solder volt mod, as found on the first post of this thread,

here is a screenshot of mine

my ocz wont go much over 260, i was hoping for 280x10 :mad:
07-22-2005, 09:41 PM
simplyadvanced

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/4416/287s1uk.jpg

so far, this is what i've got. cant seem to get anything over 170fsb. no matter what multi, it cant pass 170fsb... which leads to really crappy mem timings
07-23-2005, 12:30 AM
NiCKE^

Which motherboard do you use Simply?
07-23-2005, 02:15 AM
vegeta

I think your chip is holding you back.
You have 400mhz busspeed dothan. I think you push the chip a bit further (I had 2751Mhz with a 1500Mhz dothan in combo i855gmem-lfs)
Have you tried to put the jumpers on the convertor to 533 busspeed?
07-23-2005, 04:36 AM
Jack

Simplyadvanced, its known that B1 stepping cpu's dont do high fsb clocks.
If you want 200+ mhz fsb, than you'll need a 533fsb Pentium M.
Of course there are exceptions, but most B1's won't do 170+ mhz fsb
07-23-2005, 05:12 AM
simplyadvanced

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Simplyadvanced, its known that B1 stepping cpu's dont do high fsb clocks.
If you want 200+ mhz fsb, than you'll need a 533fsb Pentium M.
Of course there are exceptions, but most B1's won't do 170+ mhz fsb

ic. thanks. it just sucks cos i want my ram dividers!

mobo happens to be a p4p800 se
07-23-2005, 07:57 AM
vanovich

heres what my 730 scores .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=33661
and here http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8622086 :D
07-23-2005, 08:04 AM
death metal

Heya guys, anyone tried booting up with Dothan 730 on P4GD1 on its original bios? I don't have a s478 CPU to use to update the BIOS so I am just wondering if I can at least boot and then upgrade from there....
07-23-2005, 08:24 AM
NiCKE^

I think there is no possibilities to do that. There is a reason why you need a bios update for it. So you don't got any friends with s478?
07-23-2005, 09:29 AM
hmsrolst

Quote:

Originally Posted by death metal

Heya guys, anyone tried booting up with Dothan 730 on P4GD1 on its original bios? I don't have a s478 CPU to use to update the BIOS so I am just wondering if I can at least boot and then upgrade from there....

You might pick up a cheap, used Celeron just to boot the board. That's what I had to do when I sold my last P4.
07-23-2005, 09:40 AM
jrw

Quote:

Originally Posted by death metal

Heya guys, anyone tried booting up with Dothan 730 on P4GD1 on its original bios? I don't have a s478 CPU to use to update the BIOS so I am just wondering if I can at least boot and then upgrade from there....

Some shops might be friendly enough to garuantee the right bios upon shipping?

Worth a shot.
07-23-2005, 09:55 AM
dqniel

I've seen plenty of pictures of people with 7000s and 7700s installed on their dothans but I have yet to see an actual GUIDE that's in english. I tried translating the two german ones but I was still lost. Would anybody be kind enough as to point me in the right direction to a clear guide that is in english so I can decide whether I want to buy a 7000cu or a 7700cu?
07-23-2005, 10:25 AM
NiCKE^

There is a thread here in the intel part which you can find a way how to mount I think both of those zalman heatsinks.
07-23-2005, 11:03 AM
jrw

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

There is a thread here in the intel part which you can find a way how to mount I think both of those zalman heatsinks.

Links are on the frontpage :D
07-23-2005, 12:03 PM
NiCKE^

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

Links are on the frontpage :D

Well, I'm new to this thread so I can't keep track of everything :D
07-23-2005, 12:38 PM
jrw

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Well, I'm new to this thread so I can't keep track of everything :D

Hehe.

This thread is meant to be one where you dont need to go through a quadrillion pages to find what you're looking for :)

Good luck on your setup. Remember to post results! :)
07-23-2005, 12:46 PM
NiCKE^

Yeah, I just need to recieve it first ;) My P4GD1 will be ordered on Monday by my reseller and my adapter + 730 should be on the way to the reseller ;)
07-23-2005, 12:49 PM
Sume4

Can someone give a picture of the vcore measuring point in P4GD1? pleez.

Im figuring out if theres something wrong with the adapter. <-- got it already

I have tried two days to get even some picture to come to the screen. Its not graphics card related problem because i have tried also with pci card.
07-23-2005, 02:20 PM
death metal

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

Some shops might be friendly enough to garuantee the right bios upon shipping?

Worth a shot.

heya, the motherboard + adapater + pentium m is with me already ehehehe. i just need more inspiration to put them all together. so anyone hasn't tried it yet? i am afraid to try it since i might fry it :( and RMA here takes a month :(...
07-24-2005, 01:02 AM
jkidd

FYI,
I set up a combined cooler as the follows,
plz give me some comments, thanks.. ^_^
http://linshi.twbbs.org/albums/album1355/aae.thumb.jpg
Orz DIY club
07-24-2005, 02:05 AM
death metal

jkidd, i can't access the link...can you post more pictures?
07-24-2005, 04:33 AM
Mr.x3m

OCZ DDR Booster + P4GD1 3.7V works fine.
07-24-2005, 08:34 AM
dqniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

Links are on the frontpage :D

those links are links to german websites and one of them are to these forums where it's just a picture...no explanation. i already said that.
07-24-2005, 09:49 AM
alexio

Has anyone tried winbond BH-5 and CH-5 UTT on the P4GD1? It has to be UTT.

I want to know if this is a good combo.
07-24-2005, 09:52 AM
NiCKE^

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexio

Has anyone tried winbond BH-5 and CH-5 UTT on the P4GD1? It has to be UTT.

I want to know if this is a good combo.

I will hopefully try this week ;)
Oh man that reminds me that I've to check for volt mods and such :)
07-24-2005, 09:55 AM
alexio

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

I will hopefully try this week ;)
Oh man that reminds me that I've to check for volt mods and such :)

Do you have PC3500 BH-5 of PC3200 CH-5?
07-24-2005, 10:36 AM
NiCKE^

Pc3200 Ch-5.
07-24-2005, 10:46 AM
charlie

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexio

Has anyone tried winbond BH-5 and CH-5 UTT on the P4GD1? It has to be UTT.

I want to know if this is a good combo.

UTT...not good. CH5 REALLY not good, BH5 UTT only a little good.

C
07-24-2005, 10:50 AM
alexio

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

UTT...not good. CH5 REALLY not good, BH5 UTT only a little good.

C

Okay, but do you have some numbers? And also what brand and model was the UTT you where using? I plan to get something like 6 256mb sticks of BH-5 UTT speed premium and 2 512mb sticks. I already have 2 512mb sticks of CH-5 UTT. So all this won't work well? Is this also true for the 865 and 875 boards?

Thank in advance.
07-24-2005, 10:59 AM
jkidd

Quote:

Originally Posted by death metal

jkidd, i can't access the link...can you post more pictures?

sorry, the gallery server seems down,
maybe up to work tomorrow.. ^_^;; :eek:
07-24-2005, 11:28 AM
NiCKE^

Hm maybe I will have to skip my TFT+X800XL buy then if I need TCCD memories :(
07-24-2005, 06:21 PM
jkidd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jkidd

sorry, the gallery server seems down,
maybe up to work tomorrow.. ^_^;; :eek:

IT seems the forum allows to upload images.. ^_^
I upload some pics of my UGLY DIY cooler.
07-24-2005, 10:53 PM
jrw

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkidd

IT seems the forum allows to upload images.. ^_^
I upload some pics of my UGLY DIY cooler.

That is one ugly cooler! :D

But probably working just fine... What temps are you getting with that? And what kind of fan are you using?
07-25-2005, 02:09 AM
jkidd

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

That is one ugly cooler! :D

But probably working just fine... What temps are you getting with that? And what kind of fan are you using?

I run my dothan 1.8g in fanless cooler.
and via Asus Probe, I got 40 degree of CPU and 33 degree of MB.
:slapass:
07-25-2005, 06:59 AM
simplyadvanced

man.. i really find this 725 dothan weird. prime stable at 164fsb, totally unstable at 169fsb. cant even get screenie at 170fsb.

it seems like there is some hidden lock or something.
07-26-2005, 12:23 AM
pvhk

no way, it's also the limit of my 2 725 and of dothan 400 in general. On the contrary my last 730 sustain easily 205fsb!
07-26-2005, 05:19 AM
JeanY

Hi everybody and pvhk in particular (HFR member ?)

I've changed my 740 (212x12) by a 755 :)
I'm lucky with this rig, i can run 182x15 or 172x16 prime stable, just have some problems with these crapy TCCD 227 2.4.3.5 or 215 2.3.2.5 :slapass:
need some BH5 :slobber:
07-26-2005, 05:55 AM
pvhk

Hi jeanY,
well, a good dothan you have!
i tried to mount my vf7000 earlier on my pm but no much gain vs the stock cooler + sanyo denki fan (from an alpha PAL6035)
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/5...01801kr.th.jpg
07-26-2005, 06:35 AM
Sume4

I was wonderign if the problem with my non posting p4gd1 would be bios related. I didnt really get that Bootblock flashing thingy.

If i hotflash P4GD1 bios with P4P800 should i flash that bootblock separately as its explained on the first page? :confused:
07-26-2005, 07:22 AM
JeanY

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvhk

Hi jeanY,
well, a good dothan you have!
i tried to mount my vf7000 earlier on my pm but no much gain vs the stock cooler + sanyo denki fan (from an alpha PAL6035)
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/5...01801kr.th.jpg

You will gain a lot of noise with the Zalman 7000 ;)
imagine a Zalman 7000 at 1200 rpm :cool:
07-26-2005, 07:48 AM
pvhk

My sanyo denki is undervolted and noiseless ;)
and here the previous heatsink i finely removed
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4...01739hg.th.jpg

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