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:D I see, but I think Ya don't have to blame the board - if RAM is killed by voltage it also could be happened on every other board.Quote:
Originally Posted by psycho303
BTW - not understandable for BH-5, myself pluged in some 2 weeks ago and running fine with 3,9 Vdimm at 2-2-2-5 / 275 MHz...........
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Probably the board, my Neo2 also died..No life at all no fans spins nothing :(
I think you'd have to be calling them every 5 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
A link to a store was posted on the H, and they were backordered a few minutes later. Even the higher priced SLI version is selling out.
heh lol i ran 4v according to ddr booster but my rails was overvolting so the voltage was 0.1-0.2 over what the led displayed :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
:D My booster on NEO2 goes up to 4,1 Vdimm and my rails are overvolting, too........., but no need to, BH-5 on that board is maxed out stable at 275 and my lovely CORSAIR do that with "only" 3,9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
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wish I could. I am going to work in a few minutes. Oh well. I'll get it sooner or later. I just hope it is by the time I get my tax return. I hate waiting and I'll end up getting the MSI NF4 SLI. I just never understand why DFI doesn't make more for release date. They should have learned with the NF3 UT 250gb.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
These days no company is making enough for release date. Just look at Nvidia and ATI. :rolleyes:
watch out at newegg. They got a big shipment of DFI boards today. Yesterday they only carried 2 DFI boards, but today it shows various boards added like socket 775 and 754 boards. Perphaps they are getting ready to upload the Nf4?
:D Many shops in US will get some on Thur or Fri. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
thats good, very good :D
jjcom
i´ve tested stability with 300mhz 1:1
http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/dfi/prime2.jpg
but i think it is necessary to buy a new psu :brick:
Yeap that 12V rail is quite low I reckon. BTW how come is ITE working fine? in my case it just shows some crazy temperatures like 90 degrees celsious, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
during testing in the cellar with the boxed cooler, the temps looked realy god, like you can see on the pic above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
but now after installing the watercooling setup, the temps increases
at the moment i get these temps (idle / all default):
cpu: 33°
pwmic: 44°
chipset: 42°
the cpu temp doesn´t look bad, but the others are too much.
this evening i run 3dmark2001 one time with 290x9 2,5-4-4-8 1T
and ITE show me pwmic and chipset temp in the red area.
now in idle my chipset temp is 42° and the chipset fan runs with over 7000 upm :stick:
i need a watercooler block for the chipset very soon :toast:
edit: sometimes the 12v rail goes down to 11,39V :eek:
No need to mod a WB on this chipset , i use the 120x120 fan blow into this chipset and my vids , the temp decrease too low and never get above 40'C even when i run benchesQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
what 's your people's problem ? You can always preorder from ncix.Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
Also...well.."1000s of people wanna buy"...thats right....and if they (ZZF) have, say, 200 boards in stock...well 200 will get it and 800 just need to be quicker :) This item is highly in demand (d*mn bet ya)...and if it comes in stock at ONE reseller only dont expect it to be there waiting for you when you have time to check your mail.
I do, however, have to admit that i lucked out (well, i got the ultra, seems they had much more ultras in stock anyway) because i read some thread and all of a sudden someone posted...and basically 5mins after they had in in stock i RUSHED down the stairs to get my wallet.
I had another order lined up at ncix. So...even if i had been late...i still would've gotten the once from ncix. So..stop :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing. If you want something really BAD than i am sure you will get it.
Ordering a ATI X800 or X850 XT *definitly* reminds me of commies :) Compared to THAT the dfi boards are a piece of cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
n/m delete
what psu are u using now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
i´m using an old, cheap levicom 450w psu :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastakilla
That scares me. Although mine is an enermax, it's only 430W
I hope it to work well :stick:
X800XL + DFI NF4 Ultra + VX + 3200 + Winnie = Too many money to go for a 520W Powerstream just now
:D Yep - this is the naked truth........... :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
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:slobber: SOLUTION :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
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Originally Posted by Bourch
my "old" enermax 430 i sometimes think handles better then my fortron 530w... but as a 20pin psu with only 18a on the 12v i would be worried as well..
does somebody know the difference between rev. R.A00 and R.A01
or are they exactly the same?
Just recieved my DFI-SLi-D! Friend of mine was in Hong Kong this past week and grabbed it for me! The board looks sweet. Mine is a Rev A01. Will get it installed tongiht. Should be fun....
Just waiting on Fed Ex to get here with my 850XT PE today.
Specs are A64 3500+ Winchester, 1GB G.Skill LE, DFI SLi-D, (2) Maxtor SATA 120GB drives, XP-120, Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS, ATI Theater 550, ATI 850XT PE, Dell 1905FP, Logitech Z-5500's, Plextor 716 DVD Writer and Sony 16x DVD Drive.
Hopefully this 3500 does better than my last 3 3200's and 3000. Its a 0501, but who knows...
Will post tonight after I get it setup.
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Shoot an email to DFI. As I said before, all boards sold in Hong Kong are of RevA01. Maybe a new board owner from US can tell us their board revision. Let's see if BigToe's 20 components changes have made it into a new revision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickclouds
:D Should be........... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
I have asked the same questions, both my new boards are A00 and i have been assured the boards have the ECR although some boards have been shipped witht he 119 bios. I must stress to you that you MUST flash to the 125 or later bios before you do anything else.
Boards in the US aparantly have 125 on already so you should be good to go. I have 131 if its not already been posted up.
Newegg just got the DFi mobos in.....DFI nF4 DR-SLI
I just placed muy order. :banana4:
wooohoo. I just placed mine too. Thanks for the heads up Kraggy!
As a matter of fact my board (Ultra-D) is revision A00 and came with the 119 bios. I have flashed it to 2.01 and the only thing I noticed is the Enable bank interl. in the memory section (of course now the bandwidth is even bigger than before). Don't think that my board is a beta. Delighted with DFI support.. so many BIOSes in so little time :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
again, bios 0201
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US
Well it's not time to start with the complaints, but I have a very odd one here.
I have been using the Ultra-D with the XP installation I got from my MSI Neo2. My HDD is a Raptor 74G. The thing is, I cannot install windows under any circumstanses! Even by starting the installation from windows or from a bootable CD!!! it will always stop at "setup is now... your hardware"!!! Even an hour ago it could not even BOOT when I had my raptor connected to the Sata channel 1.
Yes I have changed the channels, yes I have loaded optimized settings, yes I have tried another cable! After 30 minutes or so of PURE maddness, it started working again! With my old installation of course, I still cannot install windows again!!! Shocking!
Any ideas?
could be mem issue.
My mem is the OCZ VX, so I doubt there is any problem with the memory and as I already stated, I have tried the optimized-default settings, no oc, no nothing!
Oh- I hope this isn't an issue with the Raptor, cos I have one too (a Raptor, not the DFI board- yet) :( Read something about issues with NF4 and Maxtor SATA'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Where did you get the board from- I see we hail from the same place :)
well, the nf4 sli dr is outta stock, but the ultra D is still there at newegg. Getem while they last!
Thanks, but I've got one on order from Overclockers here in the UK :) . Supposed to have been in today, but apparently the delivery guy got "lost" :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
:( Hm - not sure this will help, but I had some issue like that on my NEO2 - it was a faulty BIOS version which made Windows unable to load the SATA storage controller from the extra disk at setup. I tried 10 times - no go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Then I swiched to another BIOS and the problem has gone.
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Sorry its off-topic, but could you do me a massive favour and measure the thickness of the NF4 chipset HSF- if you look at the thread on watercooling the chipset you'll see why I'm asking ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Thanks :)
Yep Brighton rulz ;) I got the board from a German site man, couldn't stand to wait ;) Although this problem now is teasing me a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
EDIT - The chipset fan is about 12mm high
Thanks a lot :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Np m8, would be of help anytime ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
Just got a SLI-D, it's a R.A00 as well, and came with 19/01 bios. I posted this on dfi-street, and Angry Games said, he would send the board back to DFI to have it replaced.
However, I posted some more questions (quoted your post, bigtoe, there) and am waiting on answers right now...
The wise choice would be to keep your board and if and when we have a problem it would be ok to return it for an RMA. Any links to what you mentioned above?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
EDIT - just found it no worries ;)
Of course, I'm going to check how it overclocks anyway before sending it anywhere. Just Angry's suggestion made me think of something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
I sent you the link via PM.
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Originally Posted by mrlobber
:D Oooooops - AFAIK R..... is the revision embedded the 20 changes - only BIOS is not the latest. Only the PR........ boards have to send back - so You're sure done right ?
BTW - did Your avatar find someone to hitch-hike ??? :lol:
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Methinks that the best option to have our conscience clear, the best way would be to send dfi nl an email on behalf of us and have them explain themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
did anyone ever figure out how to use the prime and memtest in the bios yet? i've got the chance to play with 2 chips prior to building and want to see how well each OC's before i decide on which to keep for myself and which to give to my dad.
I was assured all A00 and upwards boards have the ECR changes, the only issue you have is swap the bios to 125 or later.now it seems the boards in the EU ahve 119 and the boards in the US have 125 already...so this may only effect guys in the EU.
bigtoe, what can effect the boards from EU?
Im ordering SLi-DR from Germany.. I should get it soon next week.
Quick question for those that already have there boards up and running...
I am not using the higher voltages for my TCCD memory, so do I need to plug in the molex and/or 3.5" floppy power source to the board? I didn't see any mention of it in the manual... A quick repsonse would be awesome as I'm finishing up the board installation right now.
Section 2 page 58 of the manual:
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The 4-pin +12V power connector enables the delivery of more
+12VDC current to the processor’s Voltage Regulator Module
(VRM).
The HDD-type and FDD-type power connectors are additional
power connectors. If you are using two graphics cards, we
recommend that you plug power cables from your power supply
unit into the two 5V/12V power connectors. This will provide more
stability to the entire system. The system board will still work even if
the additional power connectors are not connected.
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Originally Posted by SVTSnake
I just plugged everything in. The 24, the 4, the extra molex. I figured WTF. :D
Good. I guess, further questions can now be delayed until the overclocking and stability of the board has been tested. Let's really hope it will be the same as R.A01 or R.A02 boards :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Btw obviously, as always, EU gets more of the trash than the U.S.
Thanks for the replies Blindbat and XGman!Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I didn't get a manual in my box, so that is why I was asking. It came with the user's manual, but that didn't go in depth about it. I kinda thought that everything should get plugged in. Anyhow, got all the hardware installed, will install the OS tomorrow.
Initial impressions so far are:
Power ckt looks really good
Really like where the ATX power connectors are located
Like that they have space between the ram slots (install in 2 & 4)
XP-120 fits great!!!
SATA connectors are at the edge of the board
Heatsinks on mofsets are soldered to the board. No tape!
Very little room between my X850XT PE and the active cooler
The only con I can see right now is those who have 6800 Ultra's in SLi! Very tight. My ATI X850XT PE goes almost to the edge of PCI-e #2.
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thats what i hope too, mine is A00 as well, do you plan to let run mem on high voltage ? i already post some pages before that one of my BH5 died at 3.4v. hope it was my fault and not the mobo. if you can, please check high voltages on your A00 rev. i'll check my VX when they come from RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
must send my mushkins soon for RMA, somebody have experience with their service ?
Is A01 a later revision than A00 then?
Yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
Anyone using SATA drives having ANY problems on the NF4 contoller and high overclock??
Trying to decide whether to get the SLI-D or DR.
Here screen of my DFI with 3000+ and watercooling. of course 2800 is just screen stable :-)
i love this board :D
http://www.psycho-house.org/DFI/2650.jpg
http://www.psycho-house.org/DFI/2800.jpg
no problem man, i got a maxtor dm10 300gb sata as single sata and 2 raptors 74gb connected via raid0, i can clock like hell :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bito
and to those who worry about getting r00 and 1.19, it aint much of a problem, just update the bios, no big deal. the boards are fully functional. so no reason to worry :toast:
Hey guys it seems that my trouble would never end with this board. Now I can only seem to install win x64 and NOTHING else, tried w2k, sp1, sp2, nada, zip, zero. This of course happens when I try to install with my raptor on sata1. I only see the "setup is preparting etc" and then no go.
Are you trying to insall OC'ed? Try to take the clocks back to their nominal values.
I have tried a lot of thing and yes I have reverted to stock clocks for this one, although x64 seem to install without any problems on my solid overclocked system. Only I cannot install anything else!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
remove one stick of mem, try a different optical drive, try different CDs... theres still a few things that I would do before I could decisively say that my mobo was the unlikely culprit.
I know with my NF3 based board i need 2000 SP4 to run the SATA controller in the chipset. I never tried the other SATA controller but i'll asume it has the same issue. What i ended up doing was building an extra 2000SP2 OS on a OLD 2gb EIDE drive that's only for 3Dmark2001.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Of course I do :D Both BH-5 and VX on stock for me and I plan using at least 3.6v on each of them :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by psycho303
:D BTW - not even got trash - got nothing till yet............. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
BTW I thought the NF4 chipset was supposed to have NCQ? Does the DFI have that? I just bought a drive with NCQ so that would be cool.
btw does the 74gig raptor support NCQ? I think the newegg specs say it does.
Finally my problems were solved with quite a... peculiar way. Enabled RAID in BIOS and let the pc think that I run the hdd in raid.. voila, it's working and I installed xp sp1... I've spend a whole day in trying to understand what was wrong...
and btw the 74G raptor does not support ncq
but it does support tcqQuote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Yes, but TCQ and NCQ are not the same. You need a different controller for TCQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by goddh0r
Raptors support TCQ, Tag command Queuing. But beware it is not very effective at times and can use lot's of cpu cycle to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
nf4 support full set of SATA II specifications, including burst transfer rate of 300 mb/s and ncq.Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
Will run under windows, Drive properties activate TCQ or not. But read above about draw backs of TCQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
But sata300 drives are not out yet, so still looking at 150 for now. maybe later this year. :)
My board is arriving tonight and I've not yet dealt with another motherboard with as many BIOS options as this has. Does anyone have a good recommendation on where to find detailed info on all the options this board has and, if possible, recommendations on the settings?
For instance, I'm going to be running Brainpower TCCD and assume I'll end up around 2/3/3/7/1T, but there's quite a few other memory settings in the BIOS also which I wouldn't know how to set.
I'm trying to get my BIOS layout prepared in advance as much as possible to get things going right away when I get home from work.
What are the steps to do a windows XP safe install? all updated, maybe:
- Install windwos xp sp2
- Install mobo drivers, graphic card drivers, mroe drivers..
- Install antivirus (norton) and firewall (zonealarm).
- Config Internet connection drivers related
- Windows update
- Install programs, tweak xp, and security copy..
Am I missing something important?
These should be hitting the market fairly soon - I HOPE! Dunno' if they have NCQ or if that is default in SATA II?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
300Gb Sata II http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/sit...a0466460e4f0a0
250Gb and 160Gb Sata II
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/t7k250/t7k250.htm
I think everything is good but ditch the Norton and ZA and go for BitDefender he does everything and really it's a good AV/FW antiSPAM program, he finds more virus than my NAV2k4 or if you like ZA go for NOD32 for AVQuote:
Originally Posted by xavicl
Ok thx for your suggestion, i'll give it a try.
which options do you use for flashing bios? only awdflash xxxx.bin or do you use any other options?
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Originally Posted by RAINFIRE
Nice specs. They say still 2-3 months off.
Maybe I am wrong, but these harddrives doesnt spin fast enough to take advantage of the SATAII. Its like a 4 lane highway with one car.
Indeed. Surely it's not a substitute for 10K rpm, though the performance increase it gives to 7.2K drives is noticeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
ok, gimme a msg when its running :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
Me:Quote:
Originally Posted by xavicl
Windows XP SP2
Install the motherboard drivers, install graphics drivers (find out I forgot to plug in the molex, on my vid card lol)
Install AVG Free Edition (I know I'm cheap, but hey it works better than Norton in my opinon)
SpyBot Search and Destory
Connections
D2OL
Windows Update
Everything over the next...who knows how long
Then I get everything tweaked and start running 3Dmark 0x, SuperPi, Sandra, etc.
jjcom
:D Nice talk here - there's coming one more question up to my mind - the boards I purchased before all were equipped with a driver disk so that there was no problem installing XP older version (contain no SATA driver).
Does the DFI NF4 also comes with a driver disk or do I have to create one by my own using the DFI drivers?
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i have a driver disc inside my box
My Ultra-D arrived today :)
It is revision A02 :)
But I have to go to work now and interview potential University Undergraduates :mad:
HCC- I will do some measurements for a waterblock for the chipset. There is not much room! Block will only be be able to be 12mm thick max by the look of it
:D THX mate - these are good news........... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by goddh0r
:D THX for YA help but I just ordered one - it's prooven to fit. It's handmade after some users told the seller what we exactly need......Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
Here You can see:
WATERBLOCK
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I'm working on OCing my system (3000+, PDP XBL 1GB, DFI NF4 Ultra-D) and all the BIOS options threw me for a loop initially. I've found most of them explained on a few other sites, but I can't find any info on LDT Voltage Control. Could someone explain guidelines for setting this?
Also, if anyone that's achieved their max OCs would be willing to post screens of their BIOS settings (cause it's a hell of a lot to type out), that'd be really helpful. If someone is willing to do this, but doesn't have a way to get a screen of them, I'll gladly type up all the options and you can just fill in the blanks. Thanks!
real good idea...i will be getting my ultra this week but wont have anything else till next week, need to order it all. :) want to see uber leet oc's ;D
Did anyone try this board with CH-5 ramm, do the deviders work with it?
well my sli-dr just came in, but I don't have a pci-e video card. thought I had 2 more day's till the board came in.
My 3 year old summed up first thoughts on this board
"Wow, Daddy, that's a cool motherboard!" :)
I got rev A1. Hope that won't be a problem.
:D Nice kids this generation, will become great overclocker when grown up...... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
agreed, now just have to wait...get one of them as President...give people tax brakes who overclock lol
jjcom
Does OCZ DDR BOOSTER work with this board if I switch VDIMM jumper to +3.3V line :confused:
:D Interesting question but what advantage do You see compared to swich the jumper and go for 4V ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
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