what overclocking to expect from titan
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what overclocking to expect from titan
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Exactly. SSDs / HDDs / Monitor / Case generally last me until they die, apart from the case ofc which is why my case is the oldest part of my PC. Even my CPU / Mobo are still more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by crash5s
Graphics cards on the other hand I've been swapping out every gen for the last 7-9 gens, even my 560 Ti SLI wasnt cutting it in games without SLI support. As nice as the Titan is, there will still be a faster card in 12-18 months, no doubt about that. And already there are games that run at <40 FPS on a single GTX 680 @ 1080p.
Yea that was my initial thought, apart from many MMOs that dont utilize multiple GPUs, but then again those run at 120+ FPS on a single 680 anyway. I really wanted to break away from SLI / Xfire and go with having a single high end GPU now though.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
I completely agree. Although for some reason I am still excited to see the reviews :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
The card is very exciting and good, no doubt about that, but for most people the price ruins it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3lfk1ng
1123mhz gpu on reference vmax is more than enough for me, I wish they would have increased memory clocks a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Depending on Thursday's benchmark results I might go reference after all.
guru3d overclock the titan to............1176MHz.....damn :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
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I mention this specifically as the Geforce GTX Titan has been designed to overclock. The AIB partners will be allowed to offer voltage unlocked SKUs. And combined with GPU Boost 2.0 you will see this product boosting towards the 1100~1150 MHz range once you tweak it. The reference clock however is 836 MHz with a boost clock of 876 MHz.
However, tweaked... we got it running at 1176 MHz my man.
Titan doesn't seem to be for "most people" anyway so the price seems in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
And that pcgh.de video that shows 1123 was on air as well. And without a voltage unlocked card. Beastly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
Don't be so quick to forget that reviewers are getting cherry picked samples.
Just like with all the reviews that showed 1300+ Mhz GK104s, and none of the three I've been through could go past 1250. Also this is the first time ever I've had two cards die so fast with only slight OCs, nothing like what the review samples and lucky peoples cards can manage.
I must have gotten 670s from a faulty batch tbh.
You were right. They measured the package and they got 23.375mmx24.375mm within ~5mm? margin error. Carsten will maybe give his measures too.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
I feel that Inside the Titan core will be like this When you put in your PC:DQuote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
http://www.abload.de/img/m_6abff3eaa54da1ec10emiqur.gif
Wants to kill any game:eek::D
My GTX 680's were good OC'ers (1200-1250) while I had them, and my Gigabyte GTX 670 WindForce 3 that I run now is stable for 24/7 gaming @ 1392c/7220m (I run it at 1372c/7110m though so it's not "on the edge" of stability). :D So, some good ones do come out in the wild too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
1200-1250 is plain average lol.
Over 1250 is like 1 / 100. Over 1300 is cherry picked or a needle in a haystack.
Titan will likely be similar, I reckon the average will be 1000-1050 Mhz on them.
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/02...6-1200x990.jpg
DAT.
SLI BRIDGE.
OMFG.
-PB
reality seems to contradict your theory. 7970 came out 12-18 months ago and costs most of what it did then. and it is still the fastest single chip. so that just blew up your theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
titan will still be the fastest chip next year at this time. and it will still be worth 500-750.
^Erm no. 7970 laugh price 450+ GBP. Current price and after GK104 launched, <330 GBP.... I meant launch price, but laugh price is actually more accurate /autospellcheck win :D
^^ It looks extra nice with those corsair ram modules lurking in the background too. Shame about the fugly CPU cooler though.
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Originally Posted by mbreslin
yah 1.2v max fan 1750mem 1.2ghz should be doable/sustainable.. or a couple of quite 120mm fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
you worry too much.. reviewers always lower ocs vs retails oced by forum ocers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
even cherry picked reviewers still lower ocs :yepp:
Er, no... For example, both GTX 680 and 690 that were received by reviewers were among the best...Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
That's usually not the case with CPUs since tech process improves and people pump in silly voltages. But for video cards review overclocks are a good indication of what to expect.
Remember, many of these reviewers actually read and post on forums such as this...
Right. Both my 670s maxed at 1240 / 7200. And both died. My 680 replacement does 1228 / 7200.
Forum OCERs showing off 1300+ / 7400+ on GK104s bought Asus TOPs, MSI lightnings or Galaxy SOCs, which use cherry picked GPUs.
Unless the review states that they used cards bought at retail, they are being handed cherry picked cards always. And Hexus did a review on the 670s I had with them straight from retail, and very similar results, couldn't go past 1250.
Too bad it doesn't look like Nvidia is going to release a dual GPU Titan. From power draw perspective that seems like an easier job than GTX 590...
Then again, the price would be ludicrous.
Admittedly I am a bit scared to really push a 1000$ card. It seems reasonable to expect ~1100mhz on water. Even if that is just "average" for XS, it's great for me. :D
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Originally Posted by zalbard
by all means guys get more paranoid and get interpol in there.. but dont be so quick to forget youre probably comparing open system vs closed.. idk just saying some reviewers do it on open system.. are you guys pushing max fan max voltage? any extra fan/s to help out? mobos/psus can also make the differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
look what matters is the retails and we shall see
I water cool everything and have a platinum rated PSU. So no, that's not it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Also, max voltage? On a GTX 6xx series card? :p:
As far as video cards go the Titan was looking sharp as is but with that sli bridge its sharp with a set of tats!
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Originally Posted by paulbagz
1300-1400 easy on liquid.. and if it refuses theres a couple a mods that could take it to 1500 by forceQuote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
Mate I'm happy with those clocks, hurry and release them already ....
lol@napalm - force it to overclock .... I like it
:D
damn:eek: damn:eek: damn:eek:
http://images.tweaktown.com/news/2/8...ystem_full.jpg
Please, allow me to disect:
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Originally Posted by Rollo
I learned a few lessons in GPU overclocking in the past. In my experience a good OC causes them die over time when used frequently. They might last a few months to almost a year...but then the odd artifact begins to pop up, system becomes less stable, and eventually your card is basically dead. I'm not an electronics expert. From what I could tell though, my cards mostly died because the VRAM deteriorated.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Now, I'm just content with a modest OC for 24/7 and let multiple cards give me the performance I want.
Something that I've always wondered. Are the extra 5-10% frames per second increase really worth overclocking the GPU? Worth the extra power draw? Worth the extra heat? Worth the extra decay on the card itself?Quote:
Originally Posted by cx-ray
If I'm already getting 40-50 frames per second, and I actually get a 10% performance increase via an overclock, is it really worth 4-5 extra frames per second?
Depends entirely on the games you play. If a good OC consistently give you +5 fps to your MINIMUM fps, it can make a big difference during crazy fire fights in shooters.
I say, ole boy, if you're depending on +5 minimum fps boost on the low end, it's due time to upgrade!Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
Maybe, but it can also be a way of extending your hardware. Modesto OC for 24/7 and then as the games demand more start trying to get most you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
I have 2 of those sunbeams and I can't wait to rebuild so I can switch to lamptrons. I think the sunbeams are horribly ugly and I'm sick of them. :D
I think you should rely on a given GPU for a good base (stock) performance. Anything more that you can gain with a modest OC is a nice bonus. Don't however count on an OC to make a lower-end model perform as good as a higher-end one, or gain FPS that you desperately need for your game to be playable. Those last 5-10% aren't going to matter much and certainly not worth blowing up your hardware for. Better just brute force it with 2 or 3-Way SLI.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
...but hey I just noticed your sig. You're already running SLI so you know this :)
If you guys are killing your video cards without hardware mods you're probably neglecting something or doing something wrong. Only video cards i've had die were due to pushing beyond extreme limits..
Talking about the fan controller from my build?Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
Aye.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx-ray
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
I broke an 8800 GTX and two GTX 280 cards. After that I stopped overclocking to the max. Instead, I found the max usable OC, then backed off 1 or 2 steps. Since then, two GTX 480, two GTX 580, and three GTX 680 haven't endured damage. All cards were water cooled.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
You can damage your video card just like you can damage your RAM and CPU on your mobo. I guess it still could be bad luck or coincedence. I prefer not to find out again by trying to get that last few percent that isn't noticeable during gaming anyway.
Regarding the overclocking conversation (quoting doesn't work on my phone browser), my custom cooled 670s were running great and cool at under 70 degrees on stock cooling. Their default pre overclocks were 1215 Mhz, and they went a little further to 1240 Mhz.
The ram on these cards which appeared to have awesome headroom went all the way up to 7200 MHz, and even 7400 on the second 670 I had, so looking at other peoples overclocks I guessed that 7200 was fine.
I'm very certain that the GPU clock was fine. Temps were very low on these cards and I doubt anything could go wrong with the GPU at <70 degrees. I'm convinced that the Vram was simply not meant to have been pushed that high, at least not on cards that had bare vram chips with no passive cooling. So a simple warning with GK104, and also GK110 which uses the same ram clock is do not OC the ram. Just because its stable and has no errors doesn't make it safe.
Also regarding max OC potential, when you see a company like Asus, MSI and Galaxy releasing very highly pre overclocked cards, what they are doing is handpicking those GPUs for these cards. Once they are in production, you will have far less chance of getting a reference or mildly overclocked design from them capable of the best OCs you see on the internet (e.g. 1300+ Mhz on the GK104). Someone also said earlier 'why bother buying pre overclocked when you can overclock yourself? Because with these AIBs, all their best chips are being put on their factory OCed cards.
Just because you buy any GK104, doesn't mean that putting it under water will give you 1300-1400 Mhz, especially not if your chip cant reach 1250 Mhz on stock volts at <70 degrees. GPU overclocking is not comparable to CPU, its all about playing a silicon lottery. So basically what I'm saying here is, don't look at these early Titan reviews and assume 'wow, 1179 Mhz in the review, if I buy a titan it will also OC to that much, and even over 1200 Mhz on water'. This is very rarely the case with GPUs, and only happens if you get lucky with a good ocing GPU on your card.
Also regarding someone that said 'Titan is not for everyone, so the price is fine'. Ir its not meant to be for tone then why release it as a gaming graphics card? Its well understood that both GK104 and GK110 are being heavily overpriced because Nvidia do not consider AMDs HD 7000 range to be competitive enough. Also there are already a lot of games currently that only run at 30-35 FPS maxed out on a single GTX 680 at 1080p, it sucks for people that don't want to use multiple graphics cards that the Titan is priced so highly.
Bare chips (regarding ram) are often better off than chips with a layer of thermal tape or pad on them. The stuff is horrible and the design of the heatsinks often leads to a lack of uniformity in cooling capabilities even if you removed the tape/pad.
Your ram probably died or degraded due to poor long-term testing from the manufacturer.
As to "hand picking" chips for high end cards, do you really think they put that much work into them when their assembly methods and QC is as bad as it is?
They dont bother to bin the chips, they just give them a quick tolerance test, but it doesnt really matter when you cant build or attach the heatsink properly. The fact that they pass the quick tolerance test is about the only reason they tend to do better. Typically (not always) chips that wouldnt have passed the test (a hot/leakage test seems to be the norm) performs better under cold due to internal leakage characteristics.
Honestly the margins are getting rather thin..
Lots of people on this forum are posting results in the Nvidia section with their 1300 Mhz out of the box clocks on the Gigabyte / KFA2 SOCs, and with MSI lightnings, so I'm very certain that these two models at least are using hand picked chips.
Also what you said about the ram chips not having been tested could also be true, the bare chip design on KFA2 EX OC also had two fans blowing through the heatsink onto the ram chips as well, but its the first time I've ever seen Vram that clocks this high, so maybe running these Hynix chips at 7200 Mhz is probably not safe.
I never had any issue with overclocking my MSI cards for the last two generations, or any of the cards I had before those. And then I try out a new brand and they die. The RMA service was good though with the free upgrade they gave me :)
Factory might bin the chips into 2-3 grades.
But I think it's mostly in the boards.
The higher quality the signals and power, the better it'll clock on stock voltages, and therefor clock higher max voltages.
The 680 lightning has more headroom then 1300, it can pretty much do that on stock voltage.
I know you don't have to bin your ram chips to get a good clock.
But to get stellar clocks you need luck of the draw and the rest is up to the quality of your build.
It all starts with quality components...
It's not just the amount of wattage a card can theoretically handle, it's also about the quality of that power.
If the power is bad it's only gonna clock so high anyways.
That's my opinion.
As for the titan it's self.
Awesome, except the 14 smx thing that bums me out but maybe/hopefully ? ^^ it can be unlocked and with good success on premium boards...
Price of a $1000 usd?, that's a little high, I wonder if the lightnings will cost $1200... sad, but I can deal with that.
Still, no way I can afford sli'ing that.
You can buy desktop replacement laptop for that...
Edit:
Oh yeah, does anyone know if the added fp64 performance will help any games in any way at all?
@ Urbansmoorh, #834
Looking at benchmarks for the latest AAA games, a single GTX 680 already barely manages to maintain 30-35 FPS with maxed settings and AA.
Personally for me, I see lag and stuttering anywhere below 45 FPS. I've tested this with forcing FPS to a constant with video capture software, and ideally I do want to maintain as close to 60 FPS as possible. Its does take the mick that a single 670 / 680 is already struggling to even maintain 40 FPS, and if overclocking brings me closer to that, then its being done.
Also I like my 4-8x super sample AA an awful lot, and yes I can clearly notice the difference over MSAA which has always been crap to me. I think that cards good enough to handle this should be a mainstream option, and they are somewhat with 300 GBP GTX 670s and 7970s, but for the latest games you would still need a pair.
Now if someone wants to run higher resolution / triple monitors / 120 hz / 3D vision, the amount of graphics power they need goes even higher.
What you say is reasonable, I have good hunch that Oculus Rift will become very popular. And that needs 60fps to not brake the VR immersion. (According to themselves, independent developers and other testers.)Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
I actually think that Oculus Rift might kill of our desire for larger, faster and higher resolution displays aimed at most kinds of gaming as well.
And thanks for hating on MSAA, that AA algorithm is so bad that it should be thrown. In BF3 for exmaple the MSAA built in will smudge the image so much that it impedes your ability to view enemy infantry from afar. While lovering your FPS by a good hand full.
Luckily some people agree with this, so we get awesome things like SMAA injectors, that don't have a noticeable performance impact while delivering ok AA.
http://mrhaandi.blogspot.no/p/injectsmaa.html
I don't have a computer able to push too much SSAA in most games at 1200p, but I remember trying it for fun in the Dear Esther game and it looked amazing, not a single jaggie to be seen.
Guys who are going out of their way to get a single Titan should consider 680 lightning sli imo. Titan sli is for those who already have 2500x rez or multi monitor AND still have a lot of spare cash :P
Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
This is why I buy high end video cards and use a full cover water block on them.
There was a section of the press conference on overvolting where they talked about overvolting and the point at which the silicon's usable life is diminished.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx-ray
I didn't pay a lot of attention because I don't OC video cards, would rather spend the money for another card and get a big warrantied boost than torturing a much smaller boost out of one card. Let's face it, a lot of games scale 80-90% and you just can't get that OCing.
Not currently planning to buy one of these Titans, would not be a step forward to buy one over my 680SLi, and the difference two would provide isn't worth $2000 to me.
However;were I to buy one, the last thing I would do is overvolt it. Would make me a sad camper to have my $1000 last 6 months.
You might not be interested, but many of us in here sure are. Is this available online?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Intel has always put max Vcore in their white paper when releasing CPU's, going much beyond this voltage-level usually does not gain you much, so its fine for high-end aircooling and entry-level watercooling.
I guess we can expect similar from the Vrel Nvidia has set.
My doubts are fairly strong on the users ability to overvolt the card with the original software to such extent that it will not last longer than a mere 6 months. Realistically most enthusiasts are going to replace that card because of performance before life expectancy becomes a problem.
My hunch is that Nvidia and other manufacturers will keep the guarantee even if you have overvolted up to Vrel, but maybe not beyond?
6 months and overvolting ... lol. Here my first 670 died in 3-4 months on stock voltage and 1240 / 7200 clocks. I unlocked the voltage on its replacement because I got a worse clocker (1.2125v), same clocks 1240 / 7200, and dead again in 3-4 months :D. I won't be unlocking the voltage again though, not worth it for only small gains.
Never had that happen before on past cards, but I'll blame having a dodgy batch or vram chips, I don't think the GPU was at fault. Hand me a card with Vram that goes from 6000 to 7200 Mhz with no artifacts or crashes and expect me not to run that? That's just crazy talk :D.
I would also like to see any such article on over clocking and life expectancy.
@bhavv if this is not just you and more common in last nvidia gen then my hunch about 6xx series got a fault and because of this nvidia bringed the greenlight thing.
Yes, I think it might be wise to put that fault on VRM's, we all remember the issues that 590 had at launch. Not to mention that motherboard suppliers also have had similar "fog" problems in this area. ;)
That's tough since every ASIC responds differently to voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Actually got around to trying out Crysis 3 on the Titan last night. WOW what eye candy!
I don't care where you're coming from, that's one beautiful game which will likely become THE go-to title for benchmarking over the next year or two.
yes game look beautiful and makes me consider titan :) but never liked crysis because of its gameplay and also didn't liked crysis 1 and 2's graphics either but this one is beautiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
You're not supposed to play Crysis, you're supposed to see if you can play it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
:D:D:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by crash5s
or shortly lets say i supposed to see i can't play it :D:D:D
*Dumps what little money he possesses into savings account
Haha Titan, now you can no longer tempt me!
I actually have liked both Crysis 1 and 2 a lot... haven't tried Warhead yet though I own it, and I'll be buying 3 once there's a good deal on it. :eek: I'm doing it wrong, aren't I......?Quote:
Originally Posted by crash5s
NapalmV5, 1500 MHz on Titan is LN2 territory, not water.
fear mongering from nvidia focus group how unexpected.. sure man enjoy your 2GB 680s because nvidia and other minions say soQuote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
heres titan running valley.. includes mem ocing too.. forgot to post it yesterday.. you guys think nvidia would allow such voltage+clocks just to crap out their 1000$ card in 6 months ?? theres a reason why theres a 1.2v limit on the titan/680/580
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUPsFBmZr9A
ive had my 3GB 3x 580s for a year and half now still going strong @ 950/2300/1.213v on liquid.. ive had the 1.5GB 2x 580s since november of 2010 still going strong @ 950/2300/1.213v on air
these cards/gpus are built to sustain 1.2v and whatever clocks/cooling you throw at'em
im not saying everyone should push this hard on theirs especially those on closed/poor air flow systems
this is where multiple cards come very handy instead of running stressing out a single card on full load that load gets spread onto 2-4 cards and you can have a 3way sli running cooler than a single card but of course these minions will tell you all about latency and all kinds of stuttering when ive had more stuttering on a single card than on the 3way sli
same was said about gf110.. ill push as far as it goes.. we'll seeQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
When is a real review coming i am interested in GPU compute that is one of the main reasons i bought a AMD card instead of Nvidia. Work + Play is what i want from my card and GK110 looks good i just want a full detailed review before i sell off my card.
Reviews are tomorrow (Feb 21st).
9AM EST :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by mbreslin
In czech we will not have yet review :(...
I can tell you that right now there are cards that fail before that point on LN2.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Crysis 1 graphics weren't good?Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
You mustn't of had a good enough computer back when it came out ;)
-PB
Technics that they used are super i have to admit it also their editor was a state of art but result is not satisfyed me. In my opinion of course. But crysis 3 is OMG.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
I couldnt remember my cpu but if i am not wrong my gpu was 8800gtx or gts ..... Hey you got me there which computer was enough to run crysis that days :p
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Wait and see bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
It's just a question to cool it...how and how far! ;)
Nobody believed that it would be possible to cool the 580 by water and clock it over 1000...i did it!
http://hwbot.org/submission/2115273_....98_dx11_marks
Same with 5970 @ 1100...and so on...just watch my hwbot...
The right bios and the right cooling...that's all...but i must say...1500 under water will be pretty hard, due to the less vrms!
so...i think that 1400 should be possible! Same as my 7970 Lightning will be hard...1440 in heaven, but 1400/1800 would be great on titan!
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No need to wait, I've seen a few :) I'll watch but I've seen what to expect ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by emertX
Who said that a 580 over 1 GHz is impossible on water? I passed 1 GHz on air :shrug: This was a warm-up tease for a local low clock challenge, I blanked out the scores to not give too much away before the competition officially started. Gigabyte GTX 580 SOC, stock WindForce cooler: (I see the forum scales down images, right click -> view image)
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...65403-edit.png
sweet here's something to compare it with a GTX680 !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
http://hwbot.org/submission/2332284_...80_11465_marks
See you excited, do you have any more news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
Yes, here I make this score a little less.Quote:
Originally Posted by blind_ripper
One of my friends who work on TITAN Review told me that TITAN card will kick the ass of GTX 680 and Will be very close to the performance of GTX 690 card!Quote:
Originally Posted by Handrox
we will see tomorrow if What he saying is true? or not:)
What i hope for is that that score is not OC'd (stock) Titan and not that big oc'd cpu :D!
But only one can hope for, if so il get 3 for sure. Then its goodbye to GTX580 SLI :p:.
Did some looking on HWbot, yeah yeah i know tweaking and stuff could be take in to count.
But it came to mind u need about 1200mhz/1750mhz GTX 680 and 5.2ghz+ 3770K or 5ghz sandy-e.
Look, already have my doubts about it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
for me i think the performance will be like this :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Handrox
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/art.../resize/405x-1
Like Mr Terminator? hahahahaha
more like mr. universe. arnold was one of the greatest bodybuilders of all timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Handrox
Haha yeah, I can't wait to get my hands on C3, haven't had a chance to get round to it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
Yeah back in the day I actually bought a computer solely to play Crysis, was a Q6600 and 2x 8800 Ultras, set be back several thousand dollars >.<
-PB
I think we have known for a while that it would be roughly 15% less powerful than a GTX690. Tomorrow we will find out if the rumors are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
I hope we get a leak before tomorrow. Leak something from a different time zone and blame it on the time zone, Nvidia will not blame you. I promise I will generate a lot of clicks for you !!!! :)
I can almost not believe there aren't more leaks. They must have mailed out a very limited number of cards.
I finally got tired of watching people play on youtube and just grabbed it, hunter mode seems pretty fun to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbagz
I really want three GTX Titans for SLI, man, that will seriously merc the fresh out my Nvidia Surround setup.
Think I should upgrade to a PCIe 3.0 chipset to get the most out of them? Will a 4.0-5.0GHz Ivy Bridge CPU be a better match for a GTX Titan than an i7 920 @ 4.0GHz?
They're typically better engineered than stock air cooled setups. Not perfect, but they do work better.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
it seems nvidia knows they don't need every review site, and most review sites know nvidia will cut them off if rules are broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by nossy23
680 Ligtning owners will be happy right now .... but I guess we won't see the full potential of Titan until its water cooled and crankin'Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
:D
No boost and rather CPU bottlenecked. That would make Titan only a good 10% faster than the 680. Not happening guys ;)
HWLuxx tested Titan's GPU boost v2.0 and made a video:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php...i.html?start=7
They tested with Unigine Valley and you can see the fps. Some guy in their forum compared his own scores with a GTX680:
GTX 680@1Ghz:
1. Scene: 30~35FPS
2. Scene: 54~44FPS (fps drop during the scene)
3. Scene: 35~40FPS
GTX Titan@1Ghz:
1. Scene: 50~55FPS
2. Scene 89~70FPS (fps drop during the scene)
3. Scene: 50~60FPS
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...l#post20218108
This is a performance increase of 50-60% over the 680. I checked with my 580 and Titan is about 110% faster.
A tester from a hardwaresite (will not say which to protect him) spoilered Titan would be about 50% faster than the 680 in Crysis 3.
Same goes for BF3.
Can't wait to see 2 and 3-way SLI benchmarks across Nvidia Surround (5760x1200, etc).
Pretty strong gains there clock-for-clock, of course 680 clocks higher so that will reduce the margin somewhat. For safe 24/7 clocks (as discussed above regarding deterioration/failure) the Titan power will be great.
:D
Most 680's do 1200mhz core and a bit more maybe, it wouldn't warrant the msrp if it can't oc much further without massive overvoltage. We shall wait and see though, perhaps the average oc is around 1200mhz too :p That would be something, but even then, I would never spend more than 500usd on a gpu.
any idea if current drivers are not pushing Titan to its full potential ?
based on specs it should be around 70%~85% faster than a 680 and not 60% at best
Titan has 50% more compute power and 50% more bandwidth than the 680 at estimated average clock rates:
2688*2*0.9GHz avg boost = 4840 GFLOPs
1536*2*1.06GHz avg boost = 3255 GFLOPs
70-85% is overly optimistic. I think if Titan boosts to 1 GHz, it could be close to 60% faster, but not more.
As exciting as the titan is, I only just realized from some videos on it that it has one shader block disabled.
At its price point, I don't think that Nvidia would have been at a loss if they sold the fully unlocked GPU.
Yes it's a lot of money, no doubt, whether its worth it or not is up to the individual. Big pluses for me are I like single gpu gaming so this is the only way to get a good gain over 680 (BF3) and I love benching new vid cards..... Shame about the price ....
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Ok Id definitely rather have one of those than SLI 680s or a 690 + 680 tri SLI.
EK first with GeForce GTX Titan Full-Cover water block
MSRP of 89.95- to 99.95€ (incl. VAT)
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