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I couldn't boot 1866 or 2000. I was able to load the 1600 CL7-7-7 1.9v XMP profile but I dropped one channel. It shows both modules installed in BIOS but 1024MB on POST and 1GB in task manager. Windows sees 2GB but apparently "1GB usable".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperhorn
EDIT:
After changing slots to the black ones on the Crosshair V Formula I was able to boot at 1800 7-7-6-18 1T @ 1.95v with both sticks.
Interesting
I used the red slots and could run DDR3-2000 8-8-8-24 at Prime 95 until I stopped it. With the Cellshock sticks it didn't matter if black or red, frequency limit was in the low-mid 7xx MHz range as described above.
However even with the Crucial DIMMs I had memory loss (< 1 GiB available) at 2.0 V this time (Boot @ DDR3-1866/7-6-5-18 2T), so it seems we're really on the edge with D9GTx. :(
I was able to boot and web browse / use light applications DDR3-2000 9-8-8-20 1T 2.0v, but I doubt that would even run 32M. My kit is pretty low bin (Ballistix 1600 C8), they do about 1800 7-6-6 stable at 2.0v. 7-6-5 takes a lot more, almost 2.2v which I don't want to do on this CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperhorn
I went back to my Hypers for FX, going to try 2270 8-8-7-24 1T 110ns for daily use like gaming. I don't even bother running Prime95 with FX since the window between stable and unstable is so large. I can run 5 GHz all day long but fail Prime95 at 4.7 and same voltage. I was able to run Prime95 on an FX-8150 (not my current one) @ 2172 for 40 minutes or so.
why i love eco..
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5655/maxmem2.jpg
vdimm with 1,65v
one of my kit on bbse chip (black pcb) and the new kit (green pcb) still unknown but still lovely :D
What does it say in the product number after the manufacturing date ( first 3 or 4 digits depending on the year )? If it says 1040 then they're some kind of PSC.
it's so hard to take it off my memory cause my san ace 9SG1212P1G06 top on it with silver arrow x_xQuote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Yeah, ECOs rock mate:
http://digilander.libero.it/m4puni/p...7_Prime_1s.jpg
Sorry for the small screenshot, it is 1870Mhz 7-9-7-24-40-1T @1.65V :).
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Originally Posted by reisya
It's nice to meet guys with overall same setup :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
rock on with eco :up:
Check out this quick validation. It passed memtest so it seems kinda stable. I can push the cpu further but this more for testing the ram
Specs...
A8-3850
F1A75M-Pro
Noctua NH-D14
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-2133 8-9-8-24
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Sorry about the file sizes, my cam saves as jpg and it can only be resized so much.
I only took one spreader off, it wasn't easy.
I usually stick the stick of ram by the window when it's cold out for about an hour.
But it's it's warm out today.
So I stuck in the freezer, inside a ziplock.
It got some condensation on it after I took it out (8mins maybe) :\, I wiped that off with my shirt.
Thermal tape was still a little sticky, really hard to get it apart, I suppose I should of kept it in there for a half hour.
I ALWAYS use a plastic card of some sort to pry them apart, always..., even so it was still hard to get apart, gotta say that again...
Had to use a flashlight and random diffusers to get the cam to focus, I'm learning new things I guess lol.
Had to balance the flashlight and cam at the same time, but hey it worked I guess :).
Anyways I definitely got hynix h9c.
I run mine at 8-11-9 cmd1 timings, on the phenom x6 1090t.
Can't get lower so far no matter what I do.
I do have it clocked to 2000mhz though, 1.65v haven't tried lower, just higher.
Good enough, and as a side note, got my pcie back to 150mhz (100% stable I think :) ) after I cleaned out my case, moved my vga card back down to the 1st slot and added new fans.
It does the trick anyways, this mem, it's good enough, seems there's alot of potential in these hynix chips but on the older gen controllers, not so much (if we had a bad @ss bios with a ton more options then maybe...)
Edit:
I'de like to mention one more time about the thickness of the pcb on these sticks of mem.
Being a tiny bit thicker, having more layers helps me alot.
Every single time I've inserted these sticks, the board has posted.
I've always had to fiddle with the ram slots to get any board to post, being that they always seem to use flimsy lose slots on the board, ever since ddr2 it seems.
With these sticks I don't have that prob at all, it's a tight fit all the way into the slot.
I think it's awesome, my sticks rock regardless of how they do end up clocking someday... :D
I don't like that loosy goosy stuff with my mem slots AND pcie slots...
I honestly doubt this is very practical (due to timings), or 24/7 stable for that matter.
Reguardless, this isn't a bad 8Gb kit and I was pretty happy to hit 2400Mhz... ;)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...pJawX-2400.png
FWIW, Heres a CPU-z valid at these clocks:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/2296605.png
@NEO
I don't know why you even risked taking the heatspreaders off, you can tell by the label that they are Hynix BFR. Everything rated 2000 9-11-9 up is Hynix BFR, and most of the 9-11-11 stuff is high bin Samsung HCF9.
As far as the size of your images, even MS Paint can resize images :shrug:
My IMC can't even boot at 2400 so you're doing pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
Of course, my faulty CPU could boot at 2500...
(What the, logged in with disabled/no cookies...), weird...
Anyways...
I did resize the pics, yes with paint...., they were 2-4x that size originally...
I took the heatspreaders off to check the ic's for myself.
Saw a few reviews of the sticks and saw some pics of the ic's, but I wanted to make sure.
Now I know what I got, hopefully I start seeing sub timings and drive strengths of some hynix sticks...
That's what I'de like to figure out, the drives for the most part.
I only got one drive setup halfway optimal.
They have more in them too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
That was "only" 1.8v vdimm. XD @ 1.85v I'm sure they will do about 2250 6-10-6-24 trc 36 trfc 110ns 1T :)
The CPU might have another 20 MHz too if I try real-hard. The goal is to get within 15m 10 seconds. I need exactly 2.7% more speed to get under 15 minutes, something Phenom II X6 can do at ~4.4-4.5 GHz without extensive tweaks.
Very Impressive Beep! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Thought I was settled on mem, now I may have to put the Mushkins back in one more time... :cool:
I just don't advise running 1.8v for memory 24/7 :p: Maybe 1.7-1.75v. Still, that would net almost 2133 6-10-6 in 32M.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
Of course, these sticks do 2300 7-10-7 too relatively easy.
why psc owns hypers when you are using a FX cpu ??? talking about ''mhz''.
What about dominator gtx8 ???? normal or great kit to use with fx ?
Talking about performance, PSC doesn't own Hypers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bynext
I can easily post up a screenshot of 2133+ 7-7-6-20 with Hypers in 32M with a time similar to 2200+ 6-10-6 for PSC.
no performance, just more ''mhz', but what about dominators gtx8 ??? can do a great job ? or no
No. I wouldn't even touch GTX8. It is a worthless product. Single sided Hynix at CL10, about the worst thing anyone could have come up with.
PSC goes higher than Hyper on pretty much every platform...nobody really knows why.
AMD Phenom II, AMD FX, Intel P55 i7, Intel Sandy Bridge...
But who cares unless you are trying to push for the memory frequency world record? O_o
SuperPI 32M
1129 MHz @ 6-10-6-20 1t @ 1.82v
with Kingston HyperX T1 2000 9-10-9
http://www.abload.de/thumb/11292bjnn.png
Not bad. I'll take that challenge.
:)
it was a few weeks ago and my bulldozer is already gone so i have to buy a new one next time!
gskill pi 2000 6-9-6 can do 1156mhz 6-10-7 @ 1.79v and more ..., posted two sites ago! :)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/1156hnkjx.png
i did some quick tests with a kit of RipjawX 2133 8-9-8 i got off ebay.
it's a very very old kit, the stickers on the modules say february 2011, also it uses green (8 layer ? ) PCB.
CPU is single stage cooled, RAM air cooled.
.:. 32M - 2260 MHz :: 6-9-6-24 :: 1.8 volt
http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=Z4WC
.:. 32M - 2500 MHz :: 7-10-7-24 :: 1.8 volt
http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=YUXV
i'm really not satisfied with that, more than 1.82 volt and the system will not post...
first time I have in my hands a DDR3 kit that doesn't scale at least up to 1.9/1.95 volt...:banana::banana::banana::banana:in' BBSE...
So ... you got that set from spain ??? :D
Very nice ! :)
yep, nice catch :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stelios
I asked the seller if the memory can boot at CL6-9-6-24 and he responded that it can't boot . So , i decided to pass .
It seems that the seller did not test them properly ... and you were lucky ! :D
The max i got with this memory ''Exceleram 1600mhz 1.65v '' ( not spi32mb stable) was :
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/u...xt/imagem2.jpg
adata 2200mhz with 1.69v:
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/u...next/pi4-2.jpg
ahahahahQuote:
Originally Posted by Stelios
i was 2 times lucky because they are BBSE and not Hyper like the other ripjawsx kit with green PCB i have.
2500 7-10-7 seems good, I really doubt they are BBSEs
probably good PSC
PSC will never do tRCD 9 at 1130MHz, those are BBSE for sure.
I have two identical Kits, one older than this, one same week, both have BBSE - on 990 and BD you never know, TRCD Limit is often higher than on Intel and mems run a lot better (had lovo kit hyoer running 1000 c7 1,71v on 1156, now runs at 1053 C7 on Crosshair V at about same V at someone else). But these are definitely BBSE, on my kits for sure and on the above as well
Hey guys, I used to follow this thread a few years ago I ended up buying some Dominator GT cmg4gx3m2a2000c8 ram, I remember paying an awful lot for it (?200 I think) and now that I don't need it I was wondering if it is something you guys would be interested in buying? At the time it was deemed the best ram for AMD and has been flawless ever since I had it, I was too scared and lacking in the knowledge needed to overclock them so I hope someone can get proper use out of them. I will set up a for sale thread, this is in no way meant to be one I just wondered if they are still sought after sticks, if anyone not interested could PM me with an idea of what they might be worth I'd really appreciate it :)
Unfortunately the resale prices of Hypers have plummeted since Ivy Bridge was released and 2200+ memory speeds became readily available. Additionally, the 2000 C8 sticks were on the lower end of the bin for Hypers.
I'd say you could get $60-$90 for a 2x2GB kit if you can find a buyer. The market is a bit saturated right now.
Don't tell that to chew*, his Flare blasted 1100 7-9-7-15 with like 1.7v IIRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
The Dom 2000 C8 are a bit of a mixed bag, I've seen 1000+ 6-7-6 and 1150 7-8-7 out of them then other kits struggle to do much above 1000 7-7-7.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
SuperTalent kits were the same way, 2000 C7 were decent enough and some gems in 2000 C8 but 2133/2200 CL8 didn't perform quite up to expectations a lot of the time. (1700 CL6, no tRCD = CL+1 scaling)
I'm wondering if maybe 2400-2500 7-7-6-20 on LN2 can be done on Ivy with Hypers for those with a good IMC without too much trouble?
I don't know wether to keep my Hypers to try them on Ivy or to sell them so I have more money for binning. They wouldn't do 1066 on Sandy but bench near 1100 7-7-6 32M on BD/PD and up to 950 6-6-5.
The biggest problem that I've seen is that clock for clock, they get beaten in benchmarks. For example, even at 2400 8-8-8, they would lose to BBSE at 2400 9-11-9 in 32M. Perhaps it has to do with how loose the tertiary timings have to be to hit the 2400MHz... dunno. For a while I thought my Hypers would somehow still be good on Z77 but they haven't proven to be very useful :(
Hypers have become obsolete. Everybody still has them but nobody wants them anymore. Pretty sure everybody was expecting this ram to have a very long lifespan as it could run very tight timings at reasonable speeds.
What do we see now? Samsung and Hynix at cas 9, 10 and even 11. From what i've heard, Haswell will be no different so i reckon we will stick to this loose timings mem a while longer.
I don't know what Piledriver prefers but i'm about to find out. :)
Zeus I think more are using PSC or BBSE instead, though using Samsung/Hynix at 2600-3000 with a good IMC isn't going to hurt very much.
@bassplayer thanks for the info. I wonder if people just haven't worked on tightening them or if they do really need to be that loose. On Bulldozer I've gotten 2170 stable with Hypers, maybe 2200 on Ivy with CL5 LN2 and tightest possible tertiary/secondary timings would not be bad at all.
I know that manufacturers don't validate them anymore but hey.
I like to try a bunch of different combinations...
Thanks for the input guys, I can't believe how different it is now, I remember at the beginning of this thread everyone was after the hypers, people were even voiding warranty on expensive ram just to see what chips they had! I guess if no one wants them I should try and put them to use, is there any point in buying another set to get 8 gig? I mainly use my system for gaming so I hope my uses are not too out of place here!
I currently have my GTs at 7-7-7-24 @ 879MHz on my Crosshair IV Volts set to auto and it seems pretty happy NB @ 2856MHz.
What should be the max volts I give these with 'reasonable' case airflow cooling them? It would be cool if someone wanted a side project and could guide me on to see what we can get from these, I may as well try and get my monies worth :)
Thanks again.
I liked the most PSC and BBSE too. Unfortunatelly, I have only PSC in my collection. Bulldozer like PSC, but Im going with time and need 8 GB DRAM, so now TridentX with low samsung chips :-/
Crucial Ballistix 2x4GB stuff should run 2133 8-8-8.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Problem with Samsung and Hynix based stuff on Pile Driver is that the CPU-NB needs to keep up with the ram speed! My Pile driver seems to have a hard time keeping up with my TridentX rams. I'm running the rams below their rated speeds at 2400 9-11-11-25 now.
The CPU-NB is on the brink of stabilty with reasonable volts at 2.6GHz where the TridentX's aren't breaking a sweat.
Who would have ever thought ram would make the CPU-NB gasp? Not me when i was running my Thuban at 3G+ speeds on the CPU-NB along with Hypers that ran out a little over DDR1840. :D
my latest run, finally mine Elpida Hyper got retired... first time I could make an 8GB kit scream louder.
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...psa9f3d05d.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7416dc8c.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...ps653bbe69.jpg
Anybody still running a Thuban? I think it's about time I retire my 4GB G.Skill Flare kit and get an 8GB kit. Anybody know a good kit that can run DDR3-2000 24/7 stable with a Thuban? The 1090T I have can run 4GHz with 1.45 vcore and 3GHz NB with 1.35 CPU-NB voltage if that helps.