Hello all,
I found the fan here.. http://www.pcuniverse.com/ASUS-MemCo...0T/pd/p4409247 Love this thread by the way :cool:
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Hello all,
I found the fan here.. http://www.pcuniverse.com/ASUS-MemCo...0T/pd/p4409247 Love this thread by the way :cool:
Hello All,
I'm working on the design for my next computer, and I'm thinking that based on what I know now, I'd like it to be an 8-core system based on the Asus Z7S, with a pair of QX9775's ideally (although I might not afford these right away and will have to settle for some kind of Xeon). Given the testing that so many of you have done so far, here's some questions I have:
RAM: Can I get to full RAM capacity on this board using 4GB sticks that will safely survive bringing the FSB to 400, using currently available product? ... and will I be able to afford such RAM?
MB: Is the Z7S the ONLY reliable alternative to a D5400 from Intel, and that can handle more than 16GB of RAM as well as provide overclock capability?
CASE/PS: I'm looking at ThermalTake for both. Your thoughts?
Finally, I found a decent source for QX9775's with the Intel warranty. If anyone is interested in at least 2 of them - I can get the price down to $1425 USD each, including shipping to any continental US location (not Alaska or Hawaii). PM me for details.
Thanks all for any help on the questions and for any other advice.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:):):)
We have never tried 4GB sticks on the Z7S. 4 x 4GB 800Mhz should work .
800Mhz 4GB sticks are still very expensive though.
You want to use all 6 slots? I'm not sure if that's quad channel.
yes. those 2 boards are the only 5400 boards with overclock options in the bios. There's also the Supermicro X7 DWA-N , no overclock options in the bios , but with systool/clockgen/setFSB you can get up to 440FSB .
I'd go for a pc power & cooling 610/750w , but TT is ok too.
it is...
two of the four channels have 2 slots each and the other two slots have only one slot each. because of the serial nature of the fb-dimm architecture this setup should work fine (i'm using 6x 1gb modules right now). however as more modules are pluged into one channel, you mem latencies are a bit higher but also you mem throughput raises.
as you can see this is not an optimal setup as 2 of the four channels have higher latencies but also higher throughput and the other 2 channels have lower latencies but also lower throughput.
at the end i think it doesn't matter much for real world applications imho... :cool:
if anyone is interested in plain numbers let me know which benchmark i should run.
ps: anything like sisoft sandra or everest seems not adequate for testing ram performance on a quad-channel mainboard from what i've seen. for example sandra gives me roughly half the mem throughput on vista64 like it does on vista32 on the exactly same system without any changes to the settings in bios nor the configuration. anyways the measured ram-performance is quite low no matter what slot-configuration i use (2/4-dual/4-quad/6).
i want a new BIOS !!
6x FB-DIMM waterblock
http://www.aquacool.cz/pictures/fbdimmbv.jpg
http://www.aquacool.cz/pictures/fbdimmcv.jpg
How do you make those A1Ex? Just a milling machine then press it over the ram? I need to make one for air cooling my fb-dimms that lets me mount an LGA775 heatsink on top :D
I've been looking for some good third party FBDIMM heatsinks. Right now, I have a couple fans blowing directly above them, but fans plus sinks would be even better. It seems most RAM sinks are designed for regular DDR2 and not FBDIMM (i.e. Thermalright HR-07 Duo).
A1Ex, those water blocks are so cool. Does your friend sell them?
Thanks for approbation :D 6x FB-DIMM waterblock is still in progress..A1Ex regaining first prototype..After that if all will ok i can make another waterblock for everyone ;)
Lol, you guys caused 80GB of traffic on my servers last month :D
Time to sort out some of the lesser pics...
On another note, does someone know a working tool to adjust FSB in windows for the Z7S?
I normally don't OC in Windows, but with the raidcon taking a minute to start up it's a PITA to play around.
Hmpf these mobos are OOS in Germany and Finland the prices are going up allthe time :down:
E: Omg the prices have gone little down :o
Earlier: 360€ now: 349€ according to Geizhals.at
SetFSB works rather well ;)
http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...er/1MX5450.jpg
Still 1,2V Vcore :rofl: :cool: :up:
Also rather nice:
http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...CB10_X5450.jpg
Currently running Prime LargeFFT at FSB 450 with 7x mult.. stable so far :up:
Which means I can run 450x9 if I can do a VID pin mod :shocked:
Screw the Q6600 + phase, I'll put that beast in my mainrig :D
VID pin mod
does one exist??
Jcool, congrats on reaching the 4ghz octacore club.
Where u did get those Buffalo sticks :D?
Can't find them on geizhals :P
Oh come on, don't be such a sissy. People call me "Jcool" all the time, too :p:
wow, jcool.
now i'm even more excited to see what my '50's are gonna do when my 4x2gb 800mhz fb-dimm's get here that Dave got screens around 450ish with at 1.8v... :D
Consideirng I went from 386 24/7 at 1.8v on the Kingston 667's to 400 24/7 at 1.9v on the Z7S (386 on X7DAL-E).. 450-460 24/7 might not be a stretch for them :D
Haha, yeah, the Z7S runs mem like a champ. I can pass memtest at 450 with all 8GB using 1,83V so I don't even think the mems are the limiting factor with that screenie above ;)
Sadly the Z7S needs a new bios (again) to properly run these new CPUs... half mults don't work or I would run 450x8,5 for now. FSB is really damn important for these CPUs to perform, especially when you're close to 4Ghz. Average computation for an HCC unit using 5.10.45 client on XP x64 is around 2:50 for eight WUs at 430x9. I bet I could get that down to 2:45 even tho I'd lose 50Mhz core clock at 450x8,5.
Need to figure out the correct Vid pin mod for those.. or find a Vdroop mod for the Z7S. 1,21V load would prolly be good enough for 4Ghz :shrug:
Can't wait to see ur results! :up:
grats on the 4Ghz jcool! :)
looks like you picked up a pair of 5450's while i was away!
http://download.intel.com/design/xeo...hts/318589.pdf
page 20 has some info
Anyone remember the trick with the 975XBX board where you could enable diagnostic mode by covering a pad on the bottom of the CPU?
I wonder if 771 has this too.. might solve some problems ;)
Testing block mounting
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040306xx.jpg
Wow, that looks really neat man. Just get rid of those plug n cool connectors... pleaaase :D
hey question for jrool.
nice set up you got there!
now i recently just built my system using that board.
loving it btw!
there's a story on why i got it actully, and how it explains for the use of only 1 cpu.
which is a qx9775 got it to 4.0ghz! flawlessly and still has more to go. i hope.
anyways, i do not have the 4pin connector pluged into my motherboard,
but it boot first try,
now will not having it in do any damage to my computer?
also i noticed that my gpu's 2x 4870x2's are doing some serious blockage of the 4pin connect, and it doesn't seem like it would be able to fit either way.
You only need that if you have 2 CPU's.
To use that with a long card you will have to unsolder the connector from the board and attach wires in its place (extend it) or you might get by with grooves cut into the sides of the PSU-side plugin allowing the wires to splay outwards...
Here is photos of complete main block.
To jcool: plug'n'cool connectors will be change soon ;-)
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040417.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040420.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040422.jpg
Wonderful :clap:
Is that nickel-plated ?
Yes it is nickel-plated, as all blocks in circuit
That is beautiful! Nice job. I'm a fan of the nickel-plating too!
HOLD IT!
If we gonna do a group buy on those ram blocks..
Make sure you put my name in for 2 sets.
IF YOU GUYS LEAVE ME OUT, I WILL UNLEASH HELL ON ALL OF YOU!
:rofl:
I found something i want, and dave knows how i am when i do find something i want.
A1EX, PM me price + shipping to ConUS please. If you take paypal, you should see it posted within a day.
i was also wondering why i am having this strange problem with my vcore,
for some reason everytime i change it from default, for exp set it to 1.35v. save and exit,
then go back into the bios and it will auto set it to 1.6v
and will not let me change it to anything but default.
is there a way to fix this?
thank you!
It is a known bios bug for 0302. Run default until Asus gets around to fixing the bug :(
I assume you are using a QX CPU, correct?
awh shucks.
thats a big downer!
thanks for the info though!
and yup got myself a qx9775
Hi Guys, I've just finished building my Z7S-based rig. Many thanks to jcool, milkmandan and the rest for putting so much info on this thread :-)
My config is as follows:
2x Xeon 5410, stock cooling
Z7S WS BIOS Rev 0302
Kingston KVR800D2D4F5K2 (2x 2GB), cooled by an OCZ XTC cooler
Palit Radeon HD 4850 512MB
CoolerMaster RS-650 PSU (650W, SSI compliant)
Samsung 750HDD
Silverstone Kublai KL03 case
24" LCD
DVD burner, WiFi card, Card Reader, yada yada
Everything seems to be running well. The only thing annoying me is that there is only a single internal USB header on the board, making it impossible to plug in my internal card reader, and my case's front USB ports simultaneously.
I'm running a Prime95 test overnight to make sure everything is stable.
One question though: CPU-Z does not show my memory running in dual channel mode, I'm using the first and the third ram slots (From the NB heatsink). I tried using the first and second slots, and that didn't work either. Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks!
I love this thread.
Ordered an Asus z7s together wit 2x L5410 and 2 EK supremes (Nice to see you guys already figured out how to get them in place ;-).
I know, 5410 ? what the f:nuts:k, but I bought this set to upgrade, and in less than a year I will probably be able to buy some 9775's for a very affordable price.
I also ordered 2x4GB Kingston 667 FB, but I'm now wondering, will I be able to overclock as the bios (i did not know) uses a 1:1 multiplier or should I get the 800's ?
Give me your wisdom...
Im running dual 5430s and 6x4Gb 667 sticks. Ran fine for me except the temps on the FB-DIMMs was around 100c according to the BIOS. I had a MIPS RAM cooler that i got for a different board so now im only running 16Gb instead of 24, but my temps are low 30s now. Put me down for a 6x cooler when theyre ready!
100c ?! With or without any OC ?
Fortunately I ordered the Asus memorycooler.
I saw the BIOS shows the mem temps, will Everest also show the temps?
FB's run hot no matter whether you overclock them or not.
100c without overclocking. i think the middle ones would get up to 110-120, but thats also stacked 6 deep
CPU-Z can't read what mode you're running.. it doesn't say QuadChannel for me either ;)
Don't worry, if you got 2 DIMMs in Slots 1 & 3, you run DC.
Go with the 800's by any means. This board just loves FSB, I can do FSB 450 primestable with the new E0 step quads :up:Quote:
I love this thread.
Ordered an Asus z7s together wit 2x L5410 and 2 EK supremes (Nice to see you guys already figured out how to get them in place ;-).
I know, 5410 ? what the fk, but I bought this set to upgrade, and in less than a year I will probably be able to buy some 9775's for a very affordable price.
I also ordered 2x4GB Kingston 667 FB, but I'm now wondering, will I be able to overclock as the bios (i did not know) uses a 1:1 multiplier or should I get the 800's ?
Give me your wisdom...
With 667 mems you'll probably get to around 400... SInce the 5410's will probably go higher than 400, it would be a waste of potential.
Plus the 800 FBDimms aren't really more expensive.
4Gb/800 sticks are double the price of 4Gb/667
For you, and anyone who might be interested, there is some info in the Clovertown BSEL mod thread.
Guys, what are the normal idle temperatures that you guys are seeing, using stock cooling? I'm running 5410s, and I have one processor that at the moment is idling at 35-40 deg C, and the other is at almost 70 deg C (as reported by Core Temp). Both are at 0% load. I've tried cleaning off the stock paste and reapplying AS5, swapping processors between sockets, but one proc always runs hotter.
I'm beginning to think that not all CPUs are created equal.
Jaco, I think that I've eliminated that possibility by swapping processors between sockets: one proc ran hotter regardless of where it was installed.
My case is SSI certified with the right standoffs and I followed Intel's documents while installing the cooler, so there is no reason for a cooler to not make proper contact.
I guess its RMA time :(
It is also possible you have a chip with a stuck sensor. The "RealTemp" program has a sensor calibration test that you could use to see if this is the case. It is available here.
It's probably hard to tell if the chip is really that hot, or if it's a sensor problem, without tagging thermocouples on it.
Regards,
Bob
The "hot" one might also have a crooked IHS. I had that problem a year back with a B3 Xeon X3210. It ran at 89C even though I was on water, lol. Using a bowed waterblock and ridiculously high amounts of pressure I got it down to around ~70C, lol.
If that is the case with your CPU, it's either RMA or lap it - or get a waterblock with bowed base.
OR, just ignore it. Those things will survive even 90C with ease. But they'll oc less, if at all.
Need some more advice, what will be your choice :confused::
A.) 2x 4Gb KVR667D2D4F5K2/8G 8GB 667MHz DDR2 ECC Fully Buffered CL5 DIMM (Kit of 2) Dual Rank, x4 (price NL= Euro 300,-)
B.) 4x 2Gb KVR800D2D4F5K2/4G 4GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC Fully Buffered CL5 DIMM (Kit of 2) Dual Rank, x4 (price NL= Euro 400,-)
C.) 4x 2GB KVR800D2D8F5K2/4G 4GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC Fully Buffered CL5 DIMM (Kit of 2) Dual Rank, x8 (price NL= Euro 260,-)
Considering:
speed, compatibility, price, OC possibilities and future upgrading possibilities.
Please motivate, Thnx!
Def. C, as the Z7S doesn't really work with 4GB sticks from what I gathered, plus they suck at OC.
Oh well, yet another item for the "known bugs" listing...
It works, just that it drops to a divider if you use 400mhz 4GB sticks.
C looks like it has 8 sticks?
Final version 6x FB-DIMM waterblock
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040438.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040440.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040435.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040436.jpg
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/P1040443.jpg
Thanks to Gorelord from www.aquacool.cz because without him would not be waterblock done.
That thing is so beatiful :slobber:
Thnx, thought so after reading the thread, only disadvantage can be the limited upgrading ? max mem will be 12 or 16 GB ? Will it be possible to add another 2x4 GB in the future?
No, the x8 has to do with number of chips on each the memorymodule.
http://www.aquacool.cz/6xfbdimm.html
1.8Kg :D
3750 CZK = 150€ (I hope that's correct)
1.00 EUR = 1.35205 USD (www.xe.com)
so around 200$
Great looking block for sure... but I'm fully satisfied with my solution as it is :)
@Madman666: Yeah, 12GB max if you use 2GB sticks
Wow, those waterblocks are sexay, gotta get me some of those....
Test FB-DIMM waterblock
2x 2GB Kingston 667MHz @ 754MHz 1,85V
idle
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/idle.jpg
burn
http://trancebiotic.wz.cz/water/burn2.jpg
Very nice temps!
Even though they don't need to be that cool to OC, mine run 450@60C no problems.
Jcool, have you found much in the way of improving overclocking with the Z7S WS? I can't find anything for memory and no way to adjust Vcore yet :shrug:
I got the X5460's to 3.8Ghz at stock Vcore but run into stability issues using cinebench probably related to the vcore?
Sorry m8,
like we already told you, there is no Vcore option in bios, unless you plug a QX9775 in - and even then it's buggered.
Asus could easily fix the issue and make Vcore as well as VTT available for any CPU if they pleased, since the mobo supports it and was designed to anyway. It's just that they don't want that, or they don't care, whichever applies.
Only way to increase Vcore is by doing a Vid pin mod to the CPUs. We talked about that here, not confirmed yet, but should be working. I am going to try it on my X5450's, but not before Asus releases a bios that works with E0 CPUs. Until then, I ain't touching them.
jcool, maybe this sounds dumb.. but have you tried resetting the cmos to see if the E0's work then?
I was reading the Z7S forum on vip.asus.com and a few threads mentioned that resetting the cmos worked for their problems (though the users did not know or mention if their CPU's (LV 5420's and forget the other user) were E0 steppings or not..
edit - and yes i'm too lazy to try it right now lol.. real pita to pull it apart to test that :(
Yes I know Asus suggests that. That is utter crap, as soon as you clear CMOS with E0 CPUs in, it's dead.
I tried like 10 times, removed battery, pulled power, nothing helps.
Having to do a CMOS clear means CPU swap, simple as that. Same happens if you set clockgen to auto.
I had that issue, submitted it to asus, they said later this week Bios 401 will be released to fix that issue. I had some E5450 that i could not get to work. i have some X5450s comming, but just giving you guys a heads up.
Jcool also, i have Vista 64 Running, can you see all 8 cores in task manager when running dual quad core.. i can only see 4 of them and my Widget keeps the 2nd cpu at 0% at all times..
Pics say more than words ;)
Dunno what went wrong with your setup, it's definitely 8 cores in tasmgr. You did install a "ACPI-Multiprocessor" machine right?
If you chose "ACPI-Uniprocessor" that may be the problem...
never mind, had a stupid moment.. lol, got processors from work for free.. they are dual core.. lmao.... my E5450's are quad but wont work due to bios.. lol... wow.....
no only problem i have is the pc shuts down in a 3d game.... making another thread for that one..
Shutdown in 3D? That one's easy. Get a new PSU ;)
thats what i was thinkin until it shutdown on me typing a message on this board.. since then, i put a fan blowing in my case to bring the Mobo Temp from 47c to 41 c and ran Prime 95 and Cinebench for 1 hour .... so i am thinking its a heat issue....
regardless, i am ordering a new PSU with new case with better ventilation
- updated post #1 with new bios
jcool, wanted to ask ya, what heatsink is that on the NBridge chipset??
Alpenföhn (retail brand of EKL) Ötzi, only available in Germany afaik. Same brand as the mem coolers.
Hey all,
Just wanted to update the crew here on what I ended up with. Unfortunately, the costs of going to 8 cores were just too high, given a nearly $500 mobo and then at least a pair of $200 each cpu's, followed by a good $1000 worth of RAM, then add a case and PSU that would add yet another $500, and then a $400 graphics card, and then the $400 Blu-Ray DVD writer, and I was looking at well in excess of $3K, which was just too much at this point:(:(:(.
Thus I ended up getting a Smilodon RaidMax case (came with a 500w PSU that I didn't even know I was getting - bought it at a computer show for $109), an 850w ETASIS psu for $149, the Asus P5Q3 Deluxe WiFi-AP @n motherboard, 8 GIG of Corsair DDR3 (1333 MHz - PC10666) as four 2GB sticks. I will at least be capable of getting up to 16GB of RAM at some point in the future.
I decided on the Intel Q9550 for the cpu, as it's price was still within reason, and is only one step down in speed from the top end. I have the Panasonic Blu-Ray DVD writer on order, and some 160GB SATA drives, and then I'll install Vista Ultimate 64-bit with SQL Server 64-bit, and Roxio Creator 2009 Ultimate. I plan on some serious time spent transferring Hi-8 digital CamCorder tapes to Blu-Ray DVD via FireWire directly from the Camcorder, so I'd like to think this will be more than up to the task. I also have some plans to install a high-end computer chess program that's capable of using multiple processors.
I've been running the system with cpu, ram, & mobo in the case, and just using MSN chat and the browser in Asus' ExpressGate - a slick little set of tools... I know some folks who could easily meet ALL their computer needs with the ExpressGate browser and chat capability, by the lowest end Asus mobo with ExpressGate in it, and decent ram, plus a high-capacity SDHC card with USB converter. I was impressed, although I'm not sure if I have the sound hooked to the case properly, or if there's a problem with the case speaker as yet. I'll try and take some pictures after I get the HD's and DVD writer installed.
My number crunching obviously won't be in the 8-core class as I had hoped, but this will have to do until fiscal circumstances improve significantly. I also want to take the time to thank those of you who've been posting all your experiences here, as I've been able to gather quite a bit of guidance on the kind of things to look out for, and I feel I was far better prepared for my Quad-core purchase and assembly because of things I discovered in this thread. I initially tripped up on connecting the 8-pin power connector, but when I didn't see a boot-up in short order, and there weren't any beeps, I new I had something wrong, and went looking for another power connector because of what I'd read here. Sure enough, I had just missed the 8-pin, despite remembering to connect the 6-pin to the video card.
As I don't need that 500w RaidMax PSU, if anyone is interested, let me know. Thanks again everyone, and I'll post again with pics once I have everything up and running, and I'll no doubt be back seeking guidance on where to find some performance links and performance test s/w.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:):):)
$1000 for ram? What were you buying?
Erm yeah.. Scott (serlv) bought some cheap Supertalent 2GB sticks for like 52$ each, and from what I hear, they are working great.. So make that ~220$ for 8GB ;)
But still, the total cost is high of course.
agreed, i paid about 300 for my ram, its 2 4gb ddr667, which ill be selling soon to get ddr800
The original plan was 4 x 4GB OCZ or Corsair high-end stuff @ about $250 per stick. With my configuration adjusted downward, my 4 x 2GB Corsair DDR3 PC10666 which run at 1333MHz cost just over $350 for all 4 sticks.
Edit: Cost actually $320 after I receive my $30 Visa card rebate.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:):):)
what kind of temps is everyone seeing on the dual Xeons? im running 40 idle, 50 load...seems high
38c idle, 55 full load, this is overclocked to 3.6ghz..
65is the max rated on this cpu so i am happy..
Idle? Mine don't even know idle :D
Full continuous BOINC load for 2 weeks now, Coretemps between 51 and 54C on all cores at 4,06Ghz which is pretty good.
shanems3, the max rated temps are way higher than 65 ;) Tjunction is 95C for most Quads, even 100C for 45nm Dualies.
my 5430s are at 3.2 right now...good to know the temps arent too bad. id still like to bring them down some
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-8-000-BTU-Po...d=p3286.c0.m14
get that.. lol, duct it into ur pc
My E5450's at 3.96Ghz gives me low 60's (running WCG ).
Running prime is another matter , more like 75°C !
But I don't run prime every day, it's just for stability testing :D
Here's the pics I promised - as attachments because they're not hosted on a URL. The process of building this system has been surprisingly easy, save two things:
1.) The room in this case isn't quite what I thought it would be, so if there's a next time, I won't choose to go cheap on the case. I found that the cabling was having trouble with the closing up of thr right hand side of the case and the hard drives and video card. Without even realizing it, I managed to bust off a piece of the plastic on one of the SATA power cables, such that you can see the pins from one side, in the process of just closing the right side of the case. This case has both sides capable of being folded down from the top.
2.) I appear to have misplugged a USB cable that goes to the front of the case, and I burned up two different SATA card readers before I realized I had it wrong. Sure wish I had known that was a possible outcome ahead of time. I had the cable plugged in backwards from what I could tell, but I'm not entirely sure, as I ended up letting go of the cable right after removing it from the pins on the mobo, and another possibility is that I only had half of it plugged in, but who knows which half. I can't even be sure I have it right at this point, but I won't be using those anytime soon. I guess I'll have to find a real cheap USB device to test it again later.
Next step is the install of Vista Ultimate 64-bit, followed by SQL Server Developer's Edition 2005 AND 2008, so that I have both versions available. Then I get a copy of the multi-processor version of Fritz (chess playing program) - perhaps for Christmas...
Anyway, if anyone has any guidance based on this post of the pics, please feel free to respond. Thanks!
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:up::up::up:
Limit of 5 pics per post, so here's the next group of pics...
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:up::up::up:
I take it you've sorted that cable management issue? :shocked:
Here's the final pic with the CPU indicated.
Again, any feedback at all will be appreciated, especially with regard to the boo-boos I made. Thanks again, everyone.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:up::up::up:
I have it dealt with by virtue of having realized I was going to have to move the hard drives entirely into the part of the case that was designed to house them, which is a movable casing at the bottom. I had initially tried to put one of the four up inside the area normally occupied by floppy drives or other similar devices (and below where the external capable section of that part was), but the tail end of the video card was just too close for that. Unfortunately, I had busted the cable before I realized I had a problem. Sometimes, ya just learn the hard way...
Now that all 4 drives are down below, the issue is resolved, and the cables, while still unwieldy, are at least capable of being managed without disconnecting themselves or getting broken. There's still not a lot of extra space there, but it will have to do for now.
Dang!!! Almost forgot - any recommendations for freebie performance testing software? Also, given I have the Q9550 cpu on the Asus P5Q3 Deluxe WiFi AP @n mobo, any chance for viable overclocking? If not, no big deal, as I'll probably be drooling over the performance of a 2.83GHz quad-core as compared to my existing single core P4 at 2.66GHz.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:):):)
BOINC's internal benchmarks, SuperPI, SiSoft Sandra ... I'm sure there's a ton more.
excuse my ignorance , but what does this have to with the Asus Z7S ?