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Didnt install the fix yet since it only says it fixes 'No AMD CPU detected' thing. And I dont suffer from it lol.
But well, Ill just keep it by BIOS clocking. It's still possible that by a next realease of BIOS or AOD version it gets messed up again and we all RMA our hardware en masse.
The resetting is mainly because of your setting files. Check over them and switch AOD Assistant off.
known fact, AMD Overdrive will crash if you save a profile :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
damn, it seemed to run prime ok.. and was stable for over 6 hours in total then i decided to turn it off and reboot once cold. i left it on idle for about 30 mins and opened firefox.. bam bsod :( noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooQuote:
Originally Posted by wiak
so i have bumped ht voltage to 1.5 and nb to 1.46 and will test this out now.. is overdrive stresstest more accurate than prime because even though its prime stable i still get the bsod?
Thanks to Sapphire I now have 2x 3870X2's to run up on these boards, first tests on the DFI 790FX as Sapphire sell the same board re branded (as we know) so what you see here will be the same on their board also.
Short on time tonight so this was a simple run with Phenom at 3GHZ, NB at 2.2GHZ and 8000 Reaper X at 1066 1.8V 5-6-6-24 (test 1066 AMD modules) so in short, if you get a good Phenom and hit 3GHZ and set the system up as I have, you should see close.
3D06, 1600x1200, 8xAA, Anisotropic Filtering.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...k_98503GHZ.png
I will tweak this a little in the hope I can easy get 15k. The default settings run had me around 16k+ but as we know CrossfireX has its strengths in higher res tests...hence 1600x1200 eye candy all on.
more soon.
nice one tony!, what power supply would you need to run them? im considering it later on this year...
Im using the 860W turbocool PCPC unit, no issues what so ever...I have to admit its one awesome PSU ;)
http://www.pcpower.com/power-supply/turbo-cool-860.html
You sly product plugger, you ;) Looking forward to your results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
It would be interesting to show retail sales of the B3 after this thread.
Side Note: Props to OCZ and PCPC for putting out some great PSUs.
I am consistantly suprised to see the crap powersupplies people on this forum are using. They drop $$ on new CPUs, cooling etc then run it on garbage.
Those are some nice clocks!
I hope AMD can keep pushing out better chips, hopefully we'll see a comeback, even if it is slow.
well thank you ;) maybe I will ask our sales to ask newegg for the daily sales from the day this thread went up ...LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
I think you should Tony:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
[QUOTE=Tony;2938570]Im using the 860W turbocool PCPC unit, no issues what so ever...I have to admit its one awesome PSU ;)[URL="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-148-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103"]
cool, looks good mate. btw how are you getting on with the phenom? over 3.5 yet?
would my psu be up to the job of powering those monsters? Im doubtful.. but you never know...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...23&subcat=1103
Yah PC-PC is my favorite P.S.U too bad the 1kw was $580.00
[QUOTE=w00dzy;2939001]You askin me to comment on a coolermaster PSU :nono: :nono: LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
No idea man ;)
CPU is stable just over 3.4GHZ, screenies at 3.5 and utter suicides at 3.6
Remember this was first yield, as it gets better we should start seeing 3.6 stable maybe more
This 860W is pretty sweet you know, and its pretty quiet for a turbo cool ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
I'm current checking if 9x NB/HT (2115Mhz) is stable and I got a crash watching South Park at stock volts (1.25v/1.27v). I bumped up both by .04v to be safe, but do you guys think the instability is related to the NB, HT, or both? I remember reading somewhere that the 790 chipset is an HT beast so voltage rarely has to be raised. What kind of HT voltage do you guys run and at what speeds?
hah i have been slinging the saphires on egg for a while now in eggxpert chat.
they are great. clooest running of all the 3870. well the toxic's i have are.
oh ya and i just hit 2.81ghz yay for me.
make that 2.91ghz
Hi guys
well i got the rig back up to running at 2.808 Mhz this time iam using 13.5 x for the cpu a small bump to the fbs 208 1.31v and the just the feel of the rig is a lot more smoother this way the just 14x to the cpu to get to 2800. must be the faster ram speed and ht link speed . Ran the AOD stress test for a hour than ran 3dmark-06 run 13900 with my 2 3850s than took it strait
to running the demos for 3dmark-06 no crashing so if stay good this will be my day to clock speed for this rig. cpu idles at 39 -40 c under load 53 -54c
using $14.00 dollar rosewill CPU cooler RCX-Z940-LX fan speed at idle 1100 rpm under load 2300 rpm so not to bad on the noise from the cpu fan got it at newegg been using for over 6 months now.
ACK
if you try this cooler notes i had to bend the mounting brackit a litte to get the cooler set right in the middle of the CPU and the big fan that hang off the side of this cooler will sit right over your frist ram spot on your DFI LandParty DK board so you not be able to use it . what do you want for $ 14.00 dollars hehehe.
woot i bump the FBS just 2 more up to 210 that put the ht and ht link speed at 2100 cpu 2.835 got the my 3dmark-06 score back into the 14000 (14054)
again with out crashing this time around iam happy!!!
i agree, ever buy aPSU that dont have atlest 500W on 3x12v 18A rails :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ
my old one only got >360W
good psu no warrant for high reliability, in fact my old HX620 is the reason why i switched to intel (was silly to buy an AMD system back in december :rolleyes: ).Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
else i would use a 9850 by now :(
and yes, people run their systems on crap, just like a friend of mime who didnT belive me that his 500W chieftec PSU was crap until i got him a 330W seasonnic S12II which was capable to run his system :rofl:
maybe i'll join the phenom club in the next month because i'm going to sell my board+cpu to my dad :D (overclocking on intel is no fun for me, i hate northbridges with a MC....)
hope to see some more high-clocking B3s, good luck with your chips :up:
The PC-PC 1kw only cost me like $420 at my local Microcenter. I like it much better than the 750w silencer I put in a computer for my brother.
Yeah, you gotta love those PcPC psu's but unfortunatly for PCPC i found my op750W I had in the closet (yes the same on emy 790 M2R was in). Oh sure I'll probably go PC PC in the future tho.:up:
As much as I love to talk about PC&P PSU's....back on topic guys, please.
Thanks :)
Why? What on earth could use enough power to even max the 750W? That's robust enough to support an overclocked 9850 and four 3870s. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
i got the dfi 790fx m2rs board coming. i won't have the quad core for it yet since i'm holding out for better bins :). anyhow, i will be experimenting with crossfire on this board. anything i should be aware of with working on it? i will probably be running with a 5000+ BE am2 proc. is there a thread with bios settings? this will be my first time venturing into an amd chipset. thank you very much.
try using search, or google it..Quote:
Originally Posted by dng
would my 700w support 2 3870x2s?Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
its the 700w coolermaster modular
ive managed to get my ram to 1008mhz :D
looks like the nb and ht run fine at around 2.5ghz! @ 1.4v and cpu runs fine @ 2.9 @ 1.365 (however it only uses 1.344 for some reason)
htt doesnt seem to be maxed out yet!! so might try for 3.0 using this multiplier.. as it seems when clocking with the multi it gets unstable.. im sure my chip didnt do this when i first got it!!! somethings different! will it do harm if i continuously run it with a high htt?
[IMG]http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...00mhzram29.jpg[/IMG]
That mostly depends on your 12V rail(s). Expect each 3870x2 to pull about 20A under full load. Leave another 15-20A for your motherboard and CPU if you're an overclocker. Most other kinds of components don't pull much.Quote:
Originally Posted by w00dzy
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/misc/ut3cpu.png
^ Now there's something I like to see. This is an example of Unreal Touranament 3 running on my Phenom 9850 (2.8GHz) + Radeon 3870 (stock). It was set to maxed out and played as smooth as silk.
It's nice to see a game (or any frequently-used application) take advantage of multiple cores like that.
If you do the math, that averages to an estimate of 100% on two cores, so the game really uses "only" two cores (which is still nice).Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
On the other hand, I did a slight test with my Phenom 9600 and MS Flight Simulator X... ;)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9464/fsxcpu4cg9.jpg
That's what I like to see :)
Heh. It doesn't work that way. It uses all four (three of which it uses quite a bit). You can't jumble the math any way you want it and say something like "If you add it up, you can see that it only uses one core at 270%." :) I'd also like to point out that three cores stay around 75% and the forth at 25% which averages a bit closer to three fully loaded cores instead of two if you do still want to look at it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suosaaski
Nice pic of FSX though. Does it make an in-game responsiveness improvement? That's always been one of the complaints I hear about FSX from real pilots--slow response.
so what's the consensus? i see very few 9850 hitting 3Ghz or more. hopefully by the time i can get one, it'll oc better. also i might as well hold out for 45nm quad core deneb. i wonder if it'll work with am2+ board.
Of course 45nm will work with AM2+! Why wouldnt it work? If you're concerned about it because it failed back then with Intel 45nm and 680i boards, keep in mind that 1) Intel wants SLI badly and tries to screw nVidia over for not telling technical specs and 2) 790FX is from AMD them selves. 780a isnt, but I doubt AMD would keep technical specs silent for nVidia to prevent 45nm's to work properly on 780a's. It's more likely they try to get a better 790FX which enables special features with Phenom + CF than that they downgrade nVidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng
Hey Woodzy. was this shot here of the 3ghz. was that not stable ???
i couldnt get stable @ 3ghz either. Yet. :)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1209043303
This is kind of a double post from another forum but:
Yesterday when I got home I set everything up to my highest stable setting in the bios which is as follows:
CPU Multi: 13x
HT Multi: 10x
HT ref. Clock: 225
Mem VDDQ: 1.9
NB Core: 1.2
CPU HT: 1.25
CPU VDDC: 1.336
Then I went into AOD and unselected "Select All Cores" and changed Core 0 Multi to 13.5 which gave me 3037Mhz on that core. I ran a stress test, no errors, played some games, no errors, surfed the web, no problems. This morning I ran the auto test in OCCT and it completed with no errors. I plan on letting this run the rest of the day (if I can keep my patience in check) and then up Core 1 tonight and see if I get the same results.
Skullcraka, I see why your core temp is so high :shocked:
From what I keep seeing around the nethood, we should see some higher Phenoms maybe 2.7-2.8. I'm sure a few real good chips pop out with lower TDP and higher clockability. These I'm sure that's where the 6400 X2s came from. AMD just doesn't say anything until enough stock is built to put them on the market. I would like to know if a few really sweet clockers pop out that do 400mhz or better than the highest ones they sell and/or that we might just be lucky enough to get one. :slobber:
Does having different speeds on cores actually help? Cause for example Crossfire, which I know is completely different though, it doesnt matter what card is faster as the speed being really used is from the slowest right?
If it does help I DEMAND NOW a BIOS which supports it cause I dont feel like getting into AOD every time. It's nice to do a few quick changes while testing but for me that's it. Unless they get everything working perfectly, but AOD has been out for a while and it still doesnt work perfectly so that might take a while:ROTF:
hello, well it was stable for a day or so, ran prime ok but just bsods when you least expect it.. every combination of multiplier and fsb i have tried @ 3ghz seems to fail when you least expect it :( however it was stable running crysis and 3dmark..Quote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
(need to change my sig :( )
What Prime test did you use? Small FFT, Large FFT or Blend?
That is what I am hoping to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
The reason being is that I have read that some people have had the same issues with some of the B2 phenoms. So this is what I am testing now since most of use are having problems overclocking above 3000Mhz.
[QUOTE=Tony;2939089]Whats wrong with coolermaster ? I realy like that new Realpower Pro 1000w its silent efficient and not expensive. And it was more stable than the most other 1000W i bet the PCPC would be better but it pwned other brands :) Or those review where incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by w00dzy
[QUOTE=Astennu;2942750]Tony works for OCZ, so it's not wise for him to comment on other brands not partnered or affilated with OCZ. BTW PCPC is an OCZ group brand if I'm not mistaken now on the clocks!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Hi
on my rig 2.808 is what run trouble free ,every time i try to go over that i will get it run for a bit than it will crash like the next day so for my rig the chip is a 2.800 .
Iam using the 13.5x with 208 FBS and 1.31 v it ends up at 2.808 Mhz. .The only thing i have left to do on this rig is add one more 3850 video cards that will put me at 3 and call it a day i use it over the next year than up -date again.
What we need is a G0 phenom http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...eys/secret.gif
:D
Bring It :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
"Please sir... can I have one".Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaCajun
next revision can be a G hehe :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Simple answer: Yes*Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
I'm a programmer, so I appreciate some of the aspects about multithreading that a lot of people do not. So, why the asterisk? It's because the positive reply depends a lot upon the code being ran. Workloads that don't have to be synchronized can be parallelized rather easily and utilize any number of dissimilar cores to get the job done. Unfortunately, most real-world things must be either synchronized or in-order to be useful. Sure, you can encrypt 10GB of data using multiple threads and just write the data from one thread's output stream to disk as soon as it is done but good luck decrypting it. If you want to use tons of RAM, you could buffer the output in RAM either piecing it together during or after everything is processed, but in practice this is a bad methodology. However, most highly-threaded processing is done on "frames" of data, essentially a small chunk that isn't difficult to keep in memory. If well implemented, this allows even vastly different speeds of cores to work together to finish a common task that requires a serial output without using a terrible amount of memory in the process. If poorly implemented, you might be stuck waiting on the slowest core to finish at the end of each frame. Graphics problems like SLI and Crossfire are different in that the output is highly time-critical. To deliver frames that are consistently spaced, your faster card is frequently going to be waiting on your slower card to output so it can as well. Otherwise you'll end up with a jerky sense of action even if the framerate is modestly high if the cards are each just told "puke out frames as fast as you can and we'll write both of your outputs to the monitor". Yes, there are methods of doing multiple cards that don't entail frame interleave, but this makes for a good example of some of the complexity of the problem without being difficult to understand.
But that's just a view from a sugar-coated technical side. In a more consumerist way, it is safe to assume that yes--it will be faster/better than keeping them all at a similar, lower frequency. No, you won't always notice it. No, not everything will benefit.
Max them out.
Thanks for the answer. I wondered that myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Yeah well, it all depends on how much one process stays on one core if one can do the math like that or not. For example, on most dual core setups when running an application of only single thread, the two cores usually (not always) average around 50% each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
And, my estimate what not entirely accurate, I just pointed out that it might not take use of all cores. Nevertheless it uses them nicely.
FSX is sometimes still a bit slow to respond, but after SP1 and SP2 it has improved a lot. I don't play it that often though.
blend.. is that the best one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
I was playing around with clocking the different cores to different speeds. The image below explains it all.
http://www.churchministriesonline.co...00_resized.jpg
I have not tried to make it stable for anything other than benchmarks. May work on that this weekend. Just thought I would share.
Counter-Strike Source isn't quite as impressively threaded as UT3 and FSX:
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/misc/csscpu.png
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On the subject of different core clocks, I've been mapping out my cores individually for the last few days. I've got one that only does 2.8GHz stable no matter the voltage, but the others can go higher. Three at least do 2.9GHz and maybe higher at 1.34V.
ben your scores dont match on your 3dmark scores ????
strange.
lol oopsQuote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
no, they match up if you used the 3dmark calc and the scores of :Quote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
SM2.0 6373
HDR/SM3.0 8054
CPU 4180
i dunno if your not looking at the right scores and looking at the old score on the 3dmark06 big opening window itself or what.
Oh man.
Guys, AOD stability test does :banana::banana::banana::banana: all actually, at least for me. I ran Prime and almost insta BSOD.
So all testing last two days, again wasted time.
That AOD Stability test is crap atleast right now in the early stages I guess most of the App is crap aso no big surprise on that one:p: Sorry Sammi I know you have put allot of time into this and it takes time to get to UGuru status but it needs allot of attention:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Yeah,
I really like the idea of AOD, but it needs a lot of work!
Also, I think AMD should pay W1zzard a little, give him info about AMD cards and combine Atitool into AOD so you've just AOD to both OC PC and GPU's.
Completely bug free, using almost no recources etc... That's what I'd like to see. But ATM it's crap. Especially if you consider ~45 hours of testing has been useless AGAIN.
I stick with Prime Large FFT's again. AOD stability showed 1.2Vcore and 2.4Ghz NB stock Vnb was stable, but it was very far from stable. However, I won't give up. If CPU's won't do more than 2.7Ghz, ok, then Ill move onto the NB and try to get it superb high and try to get DDR1200 on RAM. Phenom IMC looks to handle RAM OC's, at least low latency wise, better than K8 IC's.
On my 6400 I couldnt get DDR800 to boot, I could with Phenom. Didnt test stability though, will do that later on after CPU and NB OC'ing is ready.
Im wondering, did anyone hit high RAM speeds yet with DDR1066 mode? Cause somehow my system does seem to like HTT more now. Im testing CPU stability right now, but if I would go from DDR800 to DDR1066 mode it should run on DDR1200. But Im wondering if anyone actually hit such speeds at all?
The other scores are from a previous run with Core0 running at 3100.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
Running at various speeds is definitely worth investigation. I thought my chip was a total lemon since it maxed at 2.8GHz. Some cores are quite superb as I've found out, however. I'm still mapping where the cores top out, but this shows how a core might do a lot better than what the entire chip can max at when kept in sync.
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/9850/async_3100a.png
How is AMD overdrive working out for you? I hear it's still crap but I'd like another opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Particle
It's a bit quirky, but once you become familiar with it it's a very useful tool. It's really nice to know that if your OC settings don't work out, your board won't need cleared. It simply reboots and is using your old settings again.
Right now I have core0 at 3200MHz and the others at 2800MHz. I'm still trying to feel out the ceiling for core0 at 1.34V. I'm surprised it made the 30-minute prime run at 3100MHz even, considering how lack-luster my OC results were prior to running the cores async.
I think that if tony tried pushing the cores individually we would propably see 3.6-7 in such a good cpu...:p:
Nice to see:D.
Although Ill only try different core speeds when it's put into BIOS. No AOD anymore for me for a while... crappy program:shakes:.
Also I gave up on DDR1200+ RAM speed. I got DDR1136, but IMO it's not really worth it to be honest. The impossibility to get some normal timings instead of uber high ones ruines the fun for me.
Thus far it seems like my NB likes to run 2.4Ghz. Didnt test a very lot yet, but with 240Mhz HTT Ill run my RAM at 4-4-4, if possible 4-4-3/4-3-3. 3-3-3 is impossible though. From the DDR1000 tCL3 thread you see it requires around 3Vdimm to get that, so DDR960 would be a little less but still too much.
What's a good program to bench the real RAM bandwith with Phenom? Everest is showing crappy results. Im running unganged, but I want to see the real bandwith after all.
So far, I've been testing at 3.1x3.0x2.9x2.8 at 1.344V for an hour without a crash. I need an easy name for doing non-synchronous clock speeds. How about multiclocking?
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/9850/spread2.png
looking good particle.. would like to see 3.2 on 2 cores and 2.8 on the others if you could get a 3dmark06 result with all at 2.8 and then with 2 at 3.2 that would be interesting....
good luck:up:
3DMark06 ran at this resolution (1024x768 [monitor's max]) doesn't seem to benefit a lot from extra CPU.
Synchroclocked at 2.8GHz:
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/9850/3DM%20Synchroclocked.png
Multiclocked at 3100x3000x2900x2800:
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/9850/3DM%20Multiclocked.png
But both of those aren't near AC's level of multithreading. 40% to 70% usage on a C2Q @ 2667 MHz, just with Altair doing nothing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acau6.jpg
Sorry for off topic.
You might have missed the graph for FSX. It was reaching 100% a lot of times on a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphiel
I missed it. Didn't know FSX could reach 100% on a quad. Nice to see >2 cores used with significant load to each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
hmm probably not worth it then mate.. thanks for doing it though. Wonder why your cpu score is lower than mine i get around 4000.. @2.8 and when i do it at about 3.1 i get 4200Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Yeah many times, easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
But 626 is tops stable, which is 150MHz too low for the RAM.
It's fine for long now, board BIOSes are what make it react crap. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stocius
Which OS is that in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Something majorly wrong there bud, your scores are very low for even 2.6GHz.
3563 CPU is what I get with a 9500 at 2.42GHz: http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/453/2k62420bo4.png
:confused:
Very far from higher MHz perf. 2.68G hits 4k.
2990MHz hits around 4400: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8956/2k62990sb3.png
That's what I wanted to know, thanks:)Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
The difference is probably due to the resolution I did the test at. I stated it so there'd be no mistake about directly comparing my scores to "normal" ones. The monitor on that machine maxes at 1024x768 while 3DM defaults to 1280x1024. Because of that, I had to run at a lower, non-standard resolution.
Also keep in mind that 3DMark doesn't serve very well as a CPU benchmark. Other workloads will benefit more or less from the multiclocked config--your mileage will vary. Besides, if the extra speed is free and you can see it manifest, why not take advantage of it? :)
We know its not exactly a good CPU bench but for the intended purpose here, 2k6 can show the CPU speed very well actually as it scales with it. Thats how we can compare it to one another ;)
I'll check out the lower res results and see what it gives, if it has any quirks.
Oh, I forgot to answer the question of what OS I use: Windows Server 2008 x64 Enterprise
Is it... good?:D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Ive XP64. Im happy with it, but wondering if server OS's are any nice, and this one is pretty new with DX10 right?
Indeed so. I enjoy Server 08 more than Vista or XP. It's like (and based on) Vista except not broken to the point of uselessness. It supports everything Vista does including DX10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
dude you use Vista, Server 2008 and Vista uses the same codebase, heck Vista SP1 kernal = Windows Server 2008 RTM kernalQuote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Windows Server 2008 with workstation pack = vista basicly, so Windows Server 2008 is stripped vista
anyway, Vista and Server 2008 will have lower 3dmark score vs xp and xp x64
Didn't I just say that? Server 2008 is so much better than Vista. Whatever they took out (DRM bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:?) made the system a lot better for normal tasks.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
server os sounds good... would it be worth me switching from my os?? ive got vista home premium...
server 2008 = vistaQuote:
Originally Posted by w00dzy
you can use the workstation pack to transform it to vista :ROTF:
did someone get a nice 3dmark vantage score?
my default is http://service.futuremark.com/home.a...&resultType=19
looks like the new 3dmark likes phenom alot :D
You don't need to install any sort of workstation pack. Just re-enable the theme and sound services and you've got a working desktop system.
Vantage likes MCP78 more than 780G though ;)
Particle:
i see you're running windows server 2008 and you seem to like it a lot. i've been running the 64bit version for weeks now and i can't imagine going back to vista. of course, i turned it into a vista look alike workstation. i even did some hacks such as enable superfetch and such. do you know how to get readyboost to work? so far, i like ws 2008 a lot. i like it so much, i even put the 32bit version on my acer laptop which is a celerom M170 or something. it runs well on my laptop too.
Good catch, dng. I need to re-enable superfetch myself. But yes, I really do enjoy it. I used Vista Business x64 for a long time and found myself going back to Server 2003 x64. I ran that for a long while, but '03 kept eating the filesystem on my RAID-5. The second time that happened, the RC for Server 08 was available so I tried it. All I can say is that I've been hooked ever since then and can't imagine going back to XP64, Vista, or Server 2003. I've tried them all.
AMD has hotfix drivers on the press site that flip the scores back to normal. ;) NVIDIA did a lot of fine tuning on the 175.12 drivers for this program, actual games still trail the 780G by a fair amount. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
^ As it should be, thanks for the update :)
Odd how one driver can totally twist things the opposite way around.
Wow, Phenom is pretty sensitive for subtimings!
I thought I could set a few subtimings right away since I had these with the X2. But I went gaming and got every hour a freeze, got pissed about it and thought it was a dieing NB. So lowered NB multi, ran Prime Blend. Error straight away. Added Vnb and Vcore, error.
Added a lillte bit of Vdimm, still error. Removed the subtimings from Memset and it's still going... Wicked lol.
These timings are crap though in the way off resulting in instability. Set too strong tCL, tRAS etc is very obvious. Freeze with memset and no boot via BIOS. Same for things as MAL/MRL. But some timings just go do like a lot of things and then suddenly so their ugly face and crash your system...
Now I 'just' got to find out what timings caused it:shrug:.
Or do more investigation, now it crashed after 1h and 10 minutes. Maybe NB or DDR1066 related...
Thanks for the article Tony! It did straighten out a couple of sticking points for me. I'll certainly try lowering the HT Link to increase the OC.
A quick question for anyone - what is the Mem VDDQ in AOD? It doesn't match the BIOS setting for vDIMM but doesn't seem to be effecting the (DDR2-800) RAM OC in any way. :shrug:
Thought I'd chime in here with my Phenom results so far - 3010 (215x14) ~ 1.34v; NB running 10X @ 1.34v. CPU-Z Validation
Not yet confirmed stable though 3008 (188x16) is confirmed by two days of steady crunching with ~22 CPU hours of validated work on the books ...
What's your Vcore at?
Also, best way to test, I just noticed, is really using it as your 24/7 system:(.
Ive done a lot of testing and in the end, I started to play some game today and it froze... Tried changing subtimings, even removing them... Changed from DDR1066 to DDR800. But in the end, now Im running HTT200 for a while, CPU multi 13.5 and NB multi at 11 and it's still playing now. Although Ill play a lot longer before I consider it stable, but Phenom stability is actually very hard to test lol.
As KTE and justapost did, you got to search for instability really. I hope this is stable so I can go back to previous settings and just set a lower NB multi and be done with it.
[EDIT] Just as I made this post and went back to the game (windowed), it froze again... NB now at stock, if it happens again Ill try and see if it might be my HD3870... That one is running quite high but I did a 2h+ FUR stability test yesterday... but you never know.
what started out as a sign of hope, has turned into desperation. it looks to me people are really having a hard time ocing this B3 phenom. hopefully the new chipset coming in june will bring more hopes. maybe this 790fx chipset can't handle the higher tdp 9850. i read that ocing the 9850 can kill your board due to the higher wattage that the board can't handle. anyone measure the tdp when ocing the 9850? maybe amd will finally get it right with the 45nm deneb. maybe there's still problem with the TLB, just my thought. i'm definitely holding out and keep my eyes on this B3 revision.
I agree that you really have to search for instability. I had the following settings clocks:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Core0: 3100
Core1: 3000
Core2: 2900
Core3: 3000
I used it in daily activities (checking mail, surfing the web, playing CS and Supreme Commander) then I ran an 8 hour OCCT test and it came back stable. Then after about 30 hours of normal use I went to rip a CD and BAM!!!! it crashed. Well, crap...thought it was stable.