come on now share the wealth :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
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come on now share the wealth :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
LOL...autocascade for WAAAY down the road :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardyMan
You're still good for quite awhile using ddr2 + AMD. In fact, that's what I'll be running on Asus...Can't beat a kit @ that price, especially considering the stuff I run are all still @ $250+ per pair (yes, all 14x1gb :p: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Mav451
Sorry buddy, can't do on this one. I'd need some serious clearance before being allowed to ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by msimax
Alright...you have my permission. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
YOU HEARD THE MAN :D
Sorry took so long to update...I just stepped in the door with some new toys :D Special thanks to Corsair for being so accommodating on such short notice :up:
6 x 2350 BA's and 2 x 2gb sets of Dominator 8888's :cool:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1774/2350xn4.jpg
BTW, if anybody's having trouble landing a pair of 2350's for themselves, drop me a PM. I may be able to help ;)
Good that you got some more thing to use :up: ... i hope you get the boards runing alright now.
Go back and do some working with the stuff now :rolleyes:
+1
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Now I'm jealous :yepp: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Yeah... :shocked:
Please show us some action S7! :yepp:
we want to see some 3d action of those chips :D
s7e9h3n,
Thank you for the updates. I think you might find some of the following
programs useful for testing K10:
F@H SMP client performance (get the newest, the old beta expires on 1st October).
if the SMP client turns you off, get a regular console client and run any project.
SSE3Dnow, a raw FPU test of SSE/SSE2/3dNow,
http://homepage.virgin.net/roy.longb...%20results.htm
throughput in GFLOPS, small download
Realstorm 2006, a pure software based raytracer with a result database
and a small download. http://www.realstorm.com/
Cacheburst32 - A small program that tests memory performance using various
block size. Block range, memory transfer type and size (x87, MMX, SSE), read latency step and walk latency step are user selectable. http://user.rol.ru/~dxover/cburst/
Still would like to see PcMark 05 with subtest results.
Really interested in seeing the results with B2 on fast DDR2 platform!
My vote goes for Realstorm too! And it looks _much_ better tha 3d06 IMHO ^^
would be more interesting if you can land some asus l1a64-ws fasn8 board with rd790 chipset. . .
the rd790, is it that good yes? you got some info?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Cool beans.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Nuclearus MC FTW! ;)
s7e9h3n Any news yet from your setup ???? :D
We want good news ... :up:
Is that the new Corsair packaging? Last time they sent me a set it came in a big white box with pink foam packaging. Cool stuff. :)
It's been a while since I've been on this site, but wanted to see what the new AMD cpu was doing. Figured this would be the place to look. Looks like I was right. Things seem to be moving slow but getting there
will you at least let us know if the bios recognizes the cpu's and is able to run in dual-channel?
i'm sure you probably deep in the process of tweaking, but a snipet of info would make us not push so hard to be able to vising the VIP thread ;)
The Steelers lost, they suck.
Lets hear some good news on the K10 front:D
My one year old 6400C4D came in the same package, just without the fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
BTW OMG 33pages no results , s7 GOGOGO!!!:up:
Yeah STEPHEN, come on.......I wanna see.
I hope you ain't nOObing around with lots of slack-ass timings?
C'mon.....don't bother with the stock crap........I want exteme numbers form a legend :)
No room for slack here buddy, only the top will do for you. :up:
<<drums fingers on desk>>
C'mon STEPHEN.....where's these AWESOME results we all KNOW you're capable of?
pffffffffffft I'm outta here......next time I'm looking for an EXTEME AMD user I'll try elsewhere........STEPHEN must be asleep this month :)
<<meant to be humourous>>
Sorry guys...the bios from Asus contained a bad bios checksum and bricked my board. I'm currently having my original bios restored via an eeprom programmer (as I don't have another board to hot-flash an AMI bios). Should be OK tonight and I have ANOTHER bios to try ;) Once again, sorry for the delay.
It helps when you can pick up the sets from Corsair HQ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Well, news was just as bad from the Niners game. It didn't help that I blacked out @ the end of the third quarter and had to be taken to the medical facilities @ the stadium. More embarassing than anything :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by grunge100
s7,
Hope you are feeling better... :)
Lucky... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Those bios are getting funny... or tragic!
com'on, checksum problem? It's almost statiscally impossible to choose to happen at this specific moment! :D
Don't want to sound like a mother hen, but . . . I hope you get that checked out. Maybe it was just one too many brewski's but it could also be something else. It can't hurt to drop by your doctor's office for some tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
yeah, you should check your temps stephen.....BSOD'ing in REAL-LIFE is not good. Maybe underclock yourself for a while? :yepp: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by twilyth
Hope you're doing ok. If you have any question about anything let me know. I'll help all I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Phil
i had bothQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
that packaging is just retail basically
:)
stephen you blacked out?
what from man...that doesn't sound good :(
I think you're all reading too much into it. It sounds to me like he just got good an sh1tf@ced. ;)
Steven's the best. He just happens to be one of those things we call HUMAN BEINGS.
Honestly... it makes me sick. People stare into computer monitors so long they forget what real HUMAN BEINGS look like.
We gotta get real again.
Ever chase a frisbee? It was the nerd sport in my day.
frisbee? sport? What's that? :confused: :shrug:
:p:
I'm sure he's fine guys. Like Enjoy said, maybe just a little to much ETOH, a little too much sun, or a little dehydration. But, doubtful anything to worry about.
do he need ct scan check? suddenly blackout? space occuppaying lession posible?
You went to the Niners game last weeken? Oh man, i would have blacked out too if i went to see that game :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I appreciate all the concern guys....but I really don't think it was as big of a deal as it may have seemed. The Niners were being trounced and my friend and I decided to leave @ the end of the third quarter. After reaching the top of the stairs, I told my friend I felt light-headed and we should hurry up and get out, but next thing you know I was staring up @ the sky with my friend asking if I was ok. Medics took me to the treatment facility in the stadium tested my vitals - my blood pressure was 118/72, 78 BPM heart rate - everything perfectly normal. The nurse couldn't even find a bump on my head =/. Only thing that was unusual was my blood sugar was low @ 72. A big part of it had to do with the fact that I've been feeling under the weather and didn't really eat or rest enough before the game. I'm feeling normal now (besides the fact my neck's a little stiff from my head bouncing off the concrete =P)...thanks for all the concern.
Now back on topic - I'll get my bios out of the lab today and hopefully nothing's damaged on my L1N64 and I'll flash it again with another beta bios otherwise, it's time for a replacement board....again....lol.....
It was a relatively popular sport when I was going to college @ UC Berkeley, but I never really participated as I was too busy chasing girls...lol...In a way, I wish they were more like frisbees than boomerangs....you'd toss one, but problem was that they'd keep on coming back...heeheeheeQuote:
Originally Posted by akaBruno
yea sounds like blood sugar deficiency... anyway glad you're okay :up:
was it a even relatively warm day? being famished and under the weather can cause blackouts easy(funny enough, usually remedied by taking a dump, which is usually in the form of diahrea due to dehydration)
but alas, rehabilitation is at hand, when that new mobo arrives :D
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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle
You certainly picked the right name for yourself, lol. Just kidding btw
On a side note, the body when dehydrated try's to keep water. So you'd be unlikely to have diahrea, but it certainly could cause dehydration. That's why most people died with dysentery. Enough medicine for now, on to computers.
Best of luck getting us some results. :) Still waiting for a reply from Supermicro on the issues I pointed out (the BIOS says the L1 cache is 512k and the L2 is 2048k, which may explain my inter-core Sandra scores).
ah, finally a signature-worthy quote ^^
I hope S7 takes a big benchmark dump herein soon
we will see RD790 boards by the time a proper BIOS gets out for current ones:)
Split Power FTW anyway:p
Ok, in the interest of keeping this thread moving along, I decided to put two of my new opties into the Tyan rig and guess what?
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7852/bacpuzzs4.jpg
Time for me to check with AMD HQ why these are detecting as such.....maybe there really isn't a difference between BA/B!? Does anybody have a screenshot of a BA for comparison?
I've got split power planes on this board....just need a bios rev. to enable it. See what info you can find about the Tyan s3993 - It's Tyan's next gen board based on the Serverworks HT2100 Chipset. I've found next to no info about it on the net. This board is supposedly HT3.0 capable too....Quote:
Originally Posted by alayashu
BTW, if anybody's curious, these cpu's score almost exactly the same as my ES's in 3d06.....
Hm, if you can, please do a register dump in CPU-Z (About -> Register Dump) for this revision and previous revision and attach both txt files. This should help, since CPU-Z and other similar tools analyze cpuid intruction results and then decide what revision it is.
Bugger! I've seen B0 and B2, and they were very clearly marked as that. AMD says you should not be concerned with B1's since they are only ES, and were bugged, but were not any release or retail samples. I'm 100% it's only BA shipping, but I don't remember seeing a CPU-Z ss for it. You can check online if you have a BA
Comes back to the first round of comments: why did they give out B1s that have performance penalties for testing if BA is release!?! :shakes:
As far as CPU-Z goes, it recognizes B0, B1, B2 properly, so I'm not sure why it would not recognize BA properly either. It should just read the core register values for family, model, stepping. Since those have the same values, they really do look like B1s going off that.
These are the only two 2350 chips available and they're BA
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Optero...il.aspx?id=234
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Optero...il.aspx?id=235
OPN Tray: OS2350WAL4BGE
OPN PIB: OS2350WAL4BGEWOF
cpu-z can't show you "sub-revision"Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
in fact there are only two steppings of K10 - B1 and B2
B1 consists of B1 (engineering samples) and BA (Opterons at 1,9 and 2 GHz). B1 and BA obviously are very similar, BA is just "more advanced" and latest version of B1 revision
B2 is high-clock revision (they promise up to 3GHz)
S7, you should show us something new. Remove one of the cpus and run 3dmark on single-socket configuration (let the bios stay old, that doesn't matter)
BIOS and software developer guides stated F-2-A was core rev BA and F-2-2 is core rev B2 (ATs 2.5GHz B2), and we already knew F-2-1 is core B1.
s7: are your chips 0S2350WAL4BGC or 0S2350WAL4BGE (OPN)?
Your wish is my command.....:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1...061cpuaec0.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4...061cpubeq5.jpg
They are in fact "C"'s....I haven't checked until now...that's what I get for believing the good 'ol boys @ AMD :rolleyes: I'm working on gettin replacements as we speak.....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Any truth to the rumour that there b3's arround? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
None that I've seen......yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thesavage
thanx
s7e9h3n, can you adjust HT via bios setup?
Yep...but it doesn't seem to make a difference in any benchmarks.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
dissapointing result =(
where's K10's power fpu?
Stuck in single channel, low-fsb, non-ocing limbo.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
I 100% agree, only problem is that the first bios bricked my board but I was able to save it with an external eeprom programmer. I'm somewhat reluctant to try the new bios until I get confirmation about a specific question I had. Hopefully it won't be too long....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss
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Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss
3400 to be exact
quad-core opteron at 2,4GHz with single-channel buffered 667 MHz ram: 2907/1995*2400 = 3497 (real number - 3300 rather)
Phenom X4 at 2,4GHz with dual-channel low-latency 1066MHz memory - ?
OK so 3400 Q6600 at stock speed of 2.4GHz. This K10 is 2900 at 2GHz. And from the sound of it still B1, though I do wonder how much BA will make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
Doesn't sound too bad but not a killer either. Hmm...
I'm still hearing that BA steppings are NOT going to bench much different/if at all than B1....I dunno....:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Do you know if there will be any difference moving to ddr2 800 over ddr2 667? that is to say performance wise.
Of course there'll be a difference, but the biggest difference will show once NUMA is corrected on these rigs. Take, for example, what dual-dual rigs can currently get in bandwidth and then more triple that and you'll see what an octal AMD dual socket setup is truly capable of.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Thesavage
Gack, that's too bad. Those are B1s like the ones sent out for reviewing. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Thanks for taking all the hassle and feedback. Lets hope they get fed up and now send you a B2. :D
b2's are coming with phenom....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Maybe 3% higher, 3DMark06 CPU has shown itself to be insensitive to memory bandwidth and latency.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAS
Wonder if BA clocks better than B1?
You don´t happen to know when Am2+ board will appear in retail do you? Wonder if AMD has begun producing Am2+ quad´s yet or if they only make Opterons...
Sorry to hear this Steven, but I have faith you'll get it worked out. I'm sure its been frustrating on your part. I think the scores are fine, but can't say too much about them until we get a fully functional system. However, I appreciate the effort
Am2+ will debut with the RD790 chipset. I should be seeing them in the next month or so...Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNizze
Also, I'd like to state for the record: Until we see ANY concrete results from the "BA" stepping Barcelonas, I'll still stick with what I've been told and assume that these B1's will offer the exact same performance in applications across the board.....(with the possible exception of a couple of VERY specific benches).......
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
sounds like your a diabetic,if not get checked out..u might be.low blood suger can kill diabetics.
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BeardyMan "I can wait untill you have some better toys to play with and to show us , i already enjoy the fact that an XS member has these toys to play with :D "
agree plus overclocks on air\water helps alot and not 24\7 worthy o\c on ln2\dice..ty
like to see the relaistic clockable points of these chips for the masses.
I could see how this server will perform with both cpu's @ -100C on my dual headed autocascade, but that wouldn't be too much fun @ default clocks :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by railmeat
This means that you and Dave Graham completelly disagree each other and go out to settle things? ;) :PQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Just kidding. So, from what we can see, seems that you possibly still have B1s, and so no-one can know about any performance difference, right?
What's even worst: still, no dual-channel, neither NUMA?
At least, the performance bugs can be resumed to this two points?
@Dave: Dave, could you get any news from the split plane and dual-HT boards?
All I'm saying is that until somebody shows some solid evidence that the "BA" cpu's will/do outperform the B1's, what evidence is there to base ANY performance numbers on?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohannesRS
I know, I know. Just kidding, could not avoid it when I saw your post. ;)
But again: now, we are still and "only" locked into NUMA and dual-channel bios problems, is that right?
hOLY $HIT...I think I may have it....I got my modded bios to flash on my Asus and it actually booted....time to install the quads....:cool:
hehe finally some action :).Good luck!
ok...looks like I may need to do some work to get this thing to run....so consider this a false/early alarm...sorry...for now :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Oh, and just in case I forgot to mention, a BIG http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3536/5680zd.gif to Asus [non] support for totally dropping the ball on this bios build.....
OMG, this thread has more ups and downs than a whores drawers!! :p: :D :confused: But we're a patient bunch, thanks for the work thus far! :)
:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by flippin_waffles
Thanks for the report s7e9h3n :)
im tuned to see what these can do when they're 100% fit
:doh: .... ASUS need to fixed that.... :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Is this what AMDs been telling you? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I'd like to know bcause my uncles been working with AMD negotiating on behalf of his firm for quite a while, in particular for mass orders of Barcelona and they've repeatedly insisted to him quite the opposite (they had B1s for testing too and were not impressed). Only Friday was the last talk they had, and the guy working with him is manager of business development.
s7e9h3n:
Thanks a lot for you info. Please test with LN164 as soon as you can.:D
And can you send me the bios(L1N) to vndiy@yahoo.com?
This thread rocks haha. Talk about a big PITA to get those things working. It's almost like no ones had a K10 core in hand until 2 weeks B4 retail.
lol. Now, I can talk with you in this thread, and my account is activated as hargen. I can upload the test file here. In this test. Whether B1 have some performance bugs, such as lack of out-of-order loading or lack of two 128-bit sse loads/cycle?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
The source file and executable files are include in the following zip file.
s7e9h3n,
If you have the occasion to boot Linux, can you run a quick "openssl speed" benchmark ? Or anyone else ? I am very interested into how Barcelona performs on cryptographic algorithms and hash functions.
- Z
Welcome to XS! :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by hargen
I tried your util on my X2 F3 and it says it's not a Barcelona :p: !
Great little test though! I like it! :up:
Here you go,Openssl tested on Barcelona:Quote:
Originally Posted by zpdixon
http://www.tecchannel.de/server/proz...28/index9.html
It rocks in this test.
Informal: I should have mentioned that I was aware of this bench... The pb is that they just tested RSA with 1 key size, while I am looking for complete "openssl speed" results (representing the 30 or so combinations of algorithms and key sizes.)