Those are the ones :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
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Those are the ones :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
so far i am stable at 366 fsb @ 1.4v 1.55mch.
i cant get the Gskill HZ ram to run at cl4 with memset no matter what it just locks up even at ddr2 700 speeds yet on a p5wd2-e it would run at ddr2 1000 with 4-4-3-2 @ 2.3v.
the ram is running at ddr2 916 here.
Anyone know when the RD600 motherboards are out? Wondering if it's worth waiting a short time for, links to sources would be appreciated :)
DS3, chipset is hitting 61 when I don't have a fan on it. It's in the TJ07 case and with the sides off. Gonna try tomorrow with the sides on and see if that makes any difference. Will try reseating it too but I think it's starved of airflow.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
Strange that, I'd put up the MCH voltage. Stuck these on to see the results at 3.6GHz 4-4-4-12. What the memory voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/741...est2ag0.th.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/779/everestuz3.th.jpg
Just for a laugh. If I dare go over 1.55v this is ok for a few benches. But I doubt it's prime so don't ask.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8179/37xo0.jpg
Is this for real??
Retail E6600 @ 3.7 @ 1.213 volts?? :confused:
What you mean 'Just for a laugh'?
Course it real, cheek:slapass: Don't take to much notice of cpu-z voltages, its buggy, should say 1.55v. You never tried something just for a laugh, to see if you can?
Ooh... £1 worth nearly $2. Makes a little holiday and shopping trip over the pond quite interesting....
I have the mch @ 1.55 and vdimm of 2.2 upto 2.3.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
there must be some other setting i need to change so gooing to look through coolers threads and check out the 1066 boot strap stuff.
1.55v is nothing to be scared of..
Max out the MCH, just get a fan over it, turned mine on first boot at 1.65v. And why so much Vdimm? Its not needed at those speeds, it'll make em hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
trying to run them at the same speed as on my p5wd2-eQuote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
ddr2 1000 4-4-3-2 2.2V
The memory timings/speed are not going to do much for the overall system speed. I'd of thought the first thing is to get the FSB up, then worry about the memory bus. I'd stick to the 1:1 ratio as well, I'm not sure the other ratios are working that well tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
the ram at 4:5 is working ok but i get the same problems with ram at 1:1.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
the only thing i have not checked is the version of memset i am using.
Well impressed with my £90 2GB ADATA Value :D
Stock DDR2-667 5-5-5-15
Memtest 30 mins DDR2-833 5-5-5-15 2.1v
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/7194/memtestlm6.png
with what FSB?
416 @ 4:5 = 333 I would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
Great value ram btw.
Gold Star for you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/2...memtestqc3.png
:D and going up
What are you planning to lap with this eBay lapping stuff then? The CPU itself or the Asus heatsinks?
The cpu
Why thank you.:cheer:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
How hot did they get? I was running S&M memtest on my HZ at 410 2.2v and they got bloody hot, to hot to touch. Had to mount a 50mm fan above em. Suprised me, way hotter than the DDR HZ on my last rig.
hehe, not very hot actually, I can keep my hands on them fine. 833 is fine on 2v maybe 1.9v but can't be bothered to run more memtest right now lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
DDR2-900 crashed after 5 mins with 2.2v, they should do it with 2.3v but for 24/7 I wouldn't run that so no point memtesting it...
Made some progress last night.
i am stable at 380fsb 1.45V vcore 1.6V mch 2.2Vdimm ram @1:1
Memset was causing the problems running cl4 but i was ok setting it in the bios.
did a 3d2k1 run and was only a few points shy of 50K.
Sorry for being surprised when you just post an image and 'Just for a laugh'. What was i suppose to think?Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
To be fair...i'm still surpised as yours is the first retail E6600 that i've seen anywhere near 3.7 and well above the supposed fsb wall at 360+...even if it does take 1.55v to get there.
Care to provide a bit more information? bios version? other voltages? etc.
This is encouraging for retail cpus as so far they've failed to live up to the ES's.
I'm gonna be pushing mine to the max for a while that it's not in the case. Then I will start benching inside the case (unless I get some mad results in which case i will continue to see where it goes).
I'm gonna be benching inside the case to see what us 24/7 users can get. I still may never get the highest scores fomr inside the case, but there's just no point competing for the glory and get anywhere near Coolaler's / Sierra Bound's marks. I'll be gaming on the thing too and I'm modding my P180 for ÃœBER airflow.
I've just finished putting together my Asus P5W-DH and E6700 ES, and despite completely wiping the CMOS (removed battery and switched jumper for 1 min) I can't see anywhere in the BIOS where I can change the multiplier? The only reference to the multiplier at all (10) is on a page where the general CPU information is provided - cache size, make & model, etc - and its greyed out like the rest of the info.
Any thoughts?
Ordered a Tuniq120 off ebay, some guy in germany. Kustompcs out of stock now.Hope it comes soon, better be good lol
Thought i'd give OCuk a go despite popular opinion:slapass:
<RANT>
What a joke.
First off they took my money before the order was shipped.:nono:
They assured me I wouldn't loose my place in que for E6600 when I asked for rest of components (not delayed) to be shipped - lie:nono:
For the last week they're telling me they can't ship because Royal Mail gave them the wrong labels WTF??:nono:
3 strikes, and this is first time using them!
Can anyone recommend a retailer who have e6600 in stock and can ship to an irate consumer in Ireland?
</RANT>
Keep us posted. I orderd one with Kustom, they recon within 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
My E6600 has now shipped from Dabs. £207 delivered as they has a £20 off special when i ordered it woot.... what a steal :)
When that arrives i can decide on the E6700 OEM that does 3.77 for benchmarks / 3.6 stable or the new Retail Boxed E6600
Jsut as a passing note, I have a spare one that is listed on here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1638681#post3
A few offers already so it's almost sold. But still there and for sale. It can be yours and in your hands by the weekend :)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s....html?IL-E6600Quote:
Originally Posted by jaws104
42 in stock at the time of writing and cheaper than OCuk!
You best check their delivery help section to see if you fall into their "outlying regions" which might mean you have to pay a bit more for PnP...
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p..._delivery.html
I tried to ask you about that in your thread in the aircooling section because I can't PM you but I uess you didn't see my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
How much were you after?
EDIT: 75!?!?!?! I paid £44 shipped from Germany!!
If KustomPCs had them in stock they'd be just under £42 inc vat and PnP to mainland UK...
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2604.html
It's not £75. ƒuck me. Why you say that? - YOU HAVE TO PUT A PRICE. I WAS GETTING STUPID OFFERS FROM PEOPLE SO USED THAT AS A GUIDE.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Thankfully people actually read the post and offered.
I never expected £75. I put that and wrote all offers listened to. And that's what I got... people offering! - As long as I didn't lose out on what I paid shipped included from Japan I wasn't bothered.
It's now at £49 and i think I'm gonna let it go by end of play tonight....
@Timko - The fact is. You can say "if it was available here... if it was available there" well if it's not, it's not. But one is available from me. Even if I sold it for £23 or £150. I have one available right now. Some people want that. Obvious by the people who have spent £20+ more on a Conroe as they were in stock. Just take a look back in the thread and you'll see that.
and FFS. READ THE 3RD POST Lawry m8.
Hmm, somewhere that stocks HR-05's would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
You were supposed to think it was a screenshot of a step 6 B2 E6600 doing 1M Pi at 3.7GHz.:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie P
Only kidding, I was coming back to edit you got in first. There will be loads of 3.6GHz stable rigs soon enough I'll bet.
E6600, Retail Step 6 B2, L623 A790
ASUS P5W-DH bios 0903, Air cooler Tuniq 120, G.Skill HZ 6400 4-4-4-12 800
3.6GHz @ 1.55v primed.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1496/36x12ls4.th.jpg
3.7GHz @ 1.55v 1M Pi and windows stable, needs 1.6v+ for prime which I'm not about to do anytime soon.
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/2535/37x0jq7.th.jpg
Vmch=1.65 Vdimm=2.15v Pretty much everything off that can be and is not needed. If you want anything else ask for a specific and I'll have a look.
I'd keep the one stable at 3.6Ghz with the lowest voltage. Btw what did that need for 3.77 and what were the temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by simonmaltby
LINK HERE :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominus
No need for the swearing Moonraker..Since it clearly says £75 in there I don't think you should be surprised I thought you were after £75.
Does HR-05 fit on the P5W with a Tuniq installed aswell?
Here's a pic of the Tuniq, may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/8...0458cy5.th.jpg
Looks like it should fit. Would be good on 975, think maybe I could replace the the mosfet cooler with lots of vram heatsinks too.Would transfer the heat much better and make better contact so probably an improvement even with less heatsink surface area.
Yes it does fit. I'm tossed up between that and the TT E-Spirit II (link here)Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
The TT120 is sold now. and no. not for £75. Will have to sell this other spare one now....
*EDIT* - anyone seen this one: http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317312 <- reviews?
To be fair to lawry if I saw something being sold for £75, even if it said "Offers around £75" I certainly wouldn't expect you to be considering offers that were nearly half that amount.
Note where you say "Offers around £75"....Quote:
Originally Posted by Durzel
ummmmmmm. WTF? - IT DOES NOT SAY THAT.
Jesus what is up with you people? It said and I quote... "So all offers will be listened to (lower or higher)". Note the use of the word "ALL" Christ almighty.
It's gone now anyway. For £56 to Texas! Not "around" £75. Not even around £70.
Moonraker have you got some serious attitude problems or something?
If it says that, I wouldn't even consider going down the thread and reading the other posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker
And anyway, you basically ripped some guy off out of £56. I don't really care that he offered that much, you still ripped him off. It's an aircooler not a gold bar.
guys just found a great wee bargian as i was looking for a new Graphics card i
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=335772
wot a bargian 217 quid for a x1900xt :D i never seen one that cheap
New ATI cards are not far off now so we expect to see some price drops i guess. Still very good price.Quote:
Originally Posted by panda_boy
Anyone got a P5W DH recently which had stock 0701 or later bios? If so, can you say where from? Thanks!
OCUK has one for £205.57 on their this week only deal: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...k_Only_25.html
Oh yeah I'll tell you what, next time you sell something. 1) sell it under what you brought and 2) make sure you sell it to the lowest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Yeah great sense m8. rock on.
I didn't rip someone off. How can you rip someone off when they are offering. Knowing everything before them??? If It's broken has no warranty and the fan is snapped, then yeah. But he has purchased what he has seen.
You could say that about everything if we thought like you.
"Oh noes. We is bin ripped ov by all shopz onlinez. they chargin morz than they brought chiz for".
^^ r. ok m8. ok.
Anyway on to normality...Quote:
Originally Posted by girth_maul
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...aGX_2d047_2dCO
£205 for this week only ;)
I'm liking this... PLEASE.. ANYONE know any good reviews / info on these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...aMY_2d058_2dGL
Mine came with 0701 it came from scan.co.uk not a bad price ether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beenom
IGNORE :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
Erm? what? it's called good will. IMO you should have charged how much you paid to get it. Then you're helping a fellow enthusiast out rather than just making a quick buck or two for yourself. If theres something sold here in UK and somebody in USA wants one badly, I'll offer to get it and send it over to them aslong as they paid all the costs, you wouldn't see me saying OK but aslong as you add an extra £10 on top for the trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonrakerâ„¢
Hicookie got hold of the same Geil RAM a few months back...Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=103868
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=103533
Ebuyer with 701, £150 ishQuote:
Originally Posted by panda_boy
Cheers for that m8.Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
I'm up sh*te street here. I won the comp for 1x 1GB 6400 G.Skill HZ's. or 2x 512MB. So I wouldn't mind using them!!! lol. But that Geil is so cheap and it looks frickin awsome in hicookie's hands!
:clap: Finished?Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
I've had one person give me a good deal from US. Noone off eBay ever has nor any retailers there. Most others make the quick buck. If noone else had of bid. Fine. £45 or there abouts I paid to get from Japan. But when there's 7 people all offering around the same price. Don't you fare f'kin tell me you would go for the lowest.
I take it you meant "dare" and no, I wouldn't hold an auction at all. I'd sell at cost price so there would be no "lowest". Oh and you're not a retailer so stop saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonraker™
edit: oh and ebay is fine, rip people off on ebay as much as you want but this isn't ebay, this is XS, a community where people help one-another.
There are some users over at OCuk that have ordered that RAM so watch out for their results over the next few days...
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17611102
Don't forget that OCuk "Weekly Offers" run from Thursday of one week to the next so you've got plenty of time to wait and see their results :)
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
1) I never said I was a retailer.
2) Dunno where you've been looking but eBay is not all rip-off.
3) Cost price was £45 regardless. Chances are you would have had a hissy fit about that too.
4) Give it up. you got yours. End of. Someone else got theirs. Did I listen to the offers of £100+ no cos that's bs. TT120's have been sold for well more than that by people who want to make a profit. So what? At the end of the day if someone is gonna pay then that's their problem. What's expensive to you, is a bargain / worth paying for to someone else.
5) Since when did this concern you what I sold stuff for anyway? Jeez. I mentioned something and now your dictating more than a mind-buggered leader of a Middle Eastern country.
/me ends this bs
:party3:
Will do. But I'm still in a pickle! lol. I've won the G.Skill's and have heard great things about them. Plus I feel obliged to use them as it may look "spoilt" that I have them and used some other memory. You'd get peeps saying "wah wah I wanted them etc."Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
So I think I'll just HAVE to stick to G.Skill! - which isn't really a bad thing ;)
i am using a ninja plus cooler with the stock fan.
1st here is a suicide screen shot this was not 1m stable
411 fsb
1.55 vcore
1.6 mch
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3700.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=111145
i was able to run 1m pi @ 3600 1.52vcore
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3600.jpg
and @ 3500 with 1.51 vcore my system is dual prime stable boths core running at 65C
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3500prime.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3500.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/3500960.jpg
and some 3d2k1 action with x1800 gto 16 pipes 621 on core 652 on ram
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/core2/c35003d2k1.jpg
i am going to stick @ 3500 with the ram @ 960 4-4-4-4 1.51vcore thats plenty fast enough.
I realy don't understand what is this all about, becuase I was not part of this sale, and it is non of my business. However, what follows is a general remark not particular to this issue.Quote:
...have been sold for well more than that by people who want to make a profit. So what? At the end of the day if someone is gonna pay then that's their problem. What's expensive to you, is a bargain / worth paying for to someone else....
First of all, there is nothing wrong about offering an item for sale to fellow XS members. In fact is it very nice to offer it here rather than on eBay where one may have sold it at a higher price (more exposure, more buyers, secure transaction, etc...).
Second: One has every right to sell it at whatever price necessary for a buyer to secure the goods, however high that price may be. And as long as Seller has declared its' condition correctly, he is in the clear.
And no one should be expecting the item to be sold at cost. Seller definitly don't have to offer it at cost. We all buy stuff everyday at over seller cost. I don't see anybody complaining. Right?
On a side note, one point though if I may. When something is offerered for sale in a closed bid, always settle it at the minimum price which the buyer needs to pay to secure the goods. Let me explain:
A closed bid is equivalent to asking the buyers to confide in me "What is the maximum bid price you are willing to pay for this offered item?" The buyer makes his/her investigation and then decides that he is willing to pay up to X but no more. If this was an open bid, and the price went beyond X he would walk away. If he has to pay up to X to get it he would do so and be happy. Right.
Now assume one gets responces for A, B, C for 50, 40, 30 respectivley. Remember, this is the maximum amount they would be willing to pay for the item if offered in an open bid. Beyond that they walk.
When the bid is settled, buyer A gets it for 40.01 NOT 50. Why? Because buyer needs only pay the minimum needed to secure the item. That's all. Anything beyond that is excessive.
When the item is sold, I would post "Item already sold to A for 40.01. Next highest offer was B. Thank you very much."
Everything is in the clear, as if it was an open bid. Everybody is happy too.
Falks, always remember, two things are very unfair:
a)Selling an item at the maximum amount a buyer is willing to pay in a blind bid.
b)Buying an item for the minimum amount a seller is willing to sell for in an open bid.
Thanks.
Is this a 24/7 safe temperature? Why so high? Isn't this supposed to be an excellent cooler? I wonder, whether the CPU would start to throttle back by noon tomorrow when the ambient temperature is a few degrees higher!Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
I am also now wondering whether the high benches that is reported on the forum is actually sustainable in a closed case 24/7 without air conditioning or W/C.
Based on what you have, would you advise that for 24/7 crunching under all weather conditions, the safer settings may be something like:
E6600: 356x9 = 3204 MHz @1.4V, MCH @ 1.55V, ram (4:3) @ 960 4-4-4-4 ? Thanks.
Hey meshmesh. good comments above in the post before the quoted one above.Quote:
Originally Posted by meshmesh
Now onto the quoted one.
65c seems awfully high to me too. I would not be happy with a chip at that heat. benching or not. I'd be angry with the cooler! lol.
What you ask (regarding ainside casing) is what I aim to do. I want to play about with my new rig components outside the case for a short while, then fix them into my P180. - Most benchers (and definitely the high end resulting ones) are outside of a case in the open. I'll never get those sort of scores / results so I plan on seeing how much I can crank the machine up for 24/7 use and a safe limit inside a case! - It'd be ace if more peeps would do that too.
Sometimes I wonder and think that inside a case can be better.... why? Well your creating a cool "chamber" in effect. I mean if you sit in front of a fan you get cooler. But as soon as it goes off your face rotating you warm up again.
I hope you get what I'm saying?!? - Either way this is what I aim to find out! lol.
Of coruse with outside of a case it's easy to just put some fans here and there for extra cooling!
Nope not on mine. Finally put it in a case today and its sat there now, looping oblivion at about 37/40C (not much load on the cpu, idle 33C) on the cpu. Here's the thing, my last rig was an opty 170 2.75GHz, the case temps are way lower. It's generating a lot less heat overall. Even the toast rack XTX is a couple of degrees down. I was expecting to have to knock it back a bit, but no its doing great, I'm quite surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by meshmesh
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3345/dscf0479bi8.jpg
Coretemp shows temps in excess of 70C for most people so 65C is pretty dam good temps..
Nice! the tuniq looks sexy, can't wait to get mine and maybe (undecided lol) lap my cpuQuote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
At least :banana::banana::banana::banana: Turpin wore a mask!!! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
Wait and see what the temps are like, if they're like mine you won't need to. You WILL have to lap the Tuniq cos it crap for finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Yeh, tbh I'll probably just end up lapping both..:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
oh and what are your temps (coretemp not asus probe)
There is a 12C delta from probe to coretemp. Its about the normal offset for the motherboard and cpu sensors. I've check the motherboard sensors against my thermocouple and it's within a couple of degrees. My last board (Ultra-D) was 12C out, always pissed me of DFI couldn't get that right. Its a good cooler, bit loud on full pelt, works well on low speed. Don't think it'll be easy to fit if the boards in the case, the screws are a bastard to get at:hitself:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Probe | Core
Idle 32 | 44
S&M torture 44 | 56
As in Richard?Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
what volts that ar fornowagain
remember, your thermocouple is on IHS,coretemp sensors are from within the die itself.
I lapped my E6700 OEM today and saw a temp drop of 8c. When i checked the IHS it was raise round the edges, so the centre was not getting any direct heat Sink contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
I am somewhat disapointed that intel cant make a flat IHS... lapping means all the numbers are gone from the processor and will make it hard to sell on no doubt, but as i intend keeping this fo awhile.. its not a major issue.
1.48v(bios) Its idling at 28C(40C coretemp, both cores) now the XTX (boy does that pump out some heat) has cooled down a bit, ambient 20C.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Yeah, I know where they are. The chip throttles at 85C IIRC, so apply the offset and you get to maybe 70/73C from the MB/Bios before any step down. Like I said, the motherboard sensors is close to my thermocouple and quite accurate for a change, the on die coretemp is always going to be much higher. From that I'd think the stock cooler would throttle with an OC, anyone seen that yet?
What was the idle before you lapped it?Quote:
Originally Posted by simonmaltby
You'd think, but like the opty's with the IHS removed, if its a a good clocker it'll sell. Like the 3GHz 146's on ebay went for rude money.
Idle before lapp was 48c (asus ai-booster reading) at 1.4625 vcore bios 3.5GhzQuote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
Idle after 40c
Now running 1.55v vocre bios and 3.7Ghz and back to 48c idle.
Feck that was bad, CNPS9500 right? That IHS must of been way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonmaltby
3.8Ghz?:eek2:
Been reading rest of thread. Seems that the 65C is actually offset by 12C. Ie actual is 53C. Not bad for full load, but to me it is the same as my AMD OCed temps when ambient is 30C. Given that the person who posted today is in the Uk, this number is very high compared to my 43C CPu at the moment (ambient 22C, 2x rosetta clients running full load).Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonrakerâ„¢
You are right, something is out of line. Maybe his heat sink needs reseating or something.
Agree with your idea of the cool chamber. I am using this now. CMStacker 830 with two 120x38 mm intake fans and one similar exhaust fan. The heat sink is sitting in a direct cold air draft. Very effective and probably better than an open bench. However, it is an expensive setup. When you add the stacker + extra 3-in-1 module+ 3x38mm fans + Freezer Pro cooler, it cost maybe £100+ extra, in addition to modding effort to fit the 38 mm from fans. Ok, excellent cooling but not really quiet at all.Quote:
Sometimes I wonder and think that inside a case can be better.... why? Well your creating a cool "chamber" in effect. I mean if you sit in front of a fan you get cooler. But as soon as it goes off your face rotating you warm up again.
Was hoping that C2D would be more efficient and would fit a normal case with less noise than that, given it is only 65W vs 110W for AMD X2.
Please keep us posted about what temperatures you get in your setup. Thanks.
I will keep you posted m8. Would love to see some pics of yours too. It's good to see other people's rigs and at a time like now (with me starting to compile now and build my rig at the end of the month) it comes in handy so I can get some good ideas! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by meshmesh
When you said 3-in-1 3x38mm fans I thought you was on about something in a 5.25" bay! I was thinking this as I am desperate to get something like this on the go! lol.
Been as the above is not possible (a Scythe Kama bay is the idea but that needs 3x 5.25" drive bays - not one!) I'm instead looking for a BLACK HDD cooler for the 5.25" bay.
When I get my fans I'll post a pic of them inside the case. I'm currently measuring up and deciding what fan to put at the bottom of my case modded infront of the HDD bays.
so far what will be in my case for cooling / cooling related is:
1x Sunbeam Rheobus fan controller
3x Sanyo-Denki 102.5 cfm 120x38mm fans
1x 92mm or 80mm fan (modded in front of the lower HDD cage)
1x Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II NB chipset fan (may not be using now due to P5B heatpipe!)
1x Tuniq Tower 120 H/S
1x Antec Tricool 120mm fan
:woot: :banana:
Ordered my RAM, mobo and ninja from Chillblast on Wednesday, ready for delivery on Thursday. Checked the Citylink online tracking service, appeared to have been delivered no problems (to my work address). Pop upstairs to reception, no parcel, go downstairs to the main building reception, no parcel. At this point, I'm thinking I've been robbed. I've got 60p on my phone in credit so quickly ring home find at whether they have been stupid enough to deliver home, yes.. they have. I'm sat in Leeds and my parcel in Lincoln, parents are going away 6am Saturday and I've got a friends birthday straight after work Friday night so the only time to go is now (Thursday after work, when I should have my parcel anyway). So I have to hop on the train, get to Lincoln and collect my parcel, say "hi" of course, jump back on the train and arrive back in Leeds only for time to take my old PC apart before it's 1am and I need to up at 7am. I'm not impressed, first time I've used Chillblast from a friends recommendation and they've let me down bigtime.
I hope I can take an hour out before I go out tonight to build the thing :slapass:
while running my day to day things like xvid encoding , games ect core temp never goes above 56C. I also use a program called cpu stability test that runs 7 threads at the same time and pushed the system hard and again that never goes over 56C same for super p1.Quote:
Originally Posted by meshmesh
in both cases the system was stable under these condictios @ 3500 with only 1.45vcore and the temps run a cooler.
Running dual prime 95 needed 1.51V @ 3500 to run stable and the temps shot up to 65C.
My plan is to use the system as it stands 3500@ 1.51V for a few days and then drop down top 1.5v and see how that goes. if i have no problems i will drop again until i find the vcore thats stable for what i need.
I dont do any distributed computing just a few games and vid editing / encoding of programs recorded from my pvr setup.
my 920D @ 4200 rig would encode an hour tv recorded from sage tv from 2gb to 500mb in 40 mins ish this new one does it in 20 so i am well happy.
I guess you can look at how you over clock in 2 ways what does it take to run the cpu at xxxx or how far can i push it with 1.xxvcore
for a 24/7 i would go with the safer bet of running the system on 1.4vcore and as high as it will run dual prime 95 or what ever you want to test for stability.
hmm the coretemp is not offset, that is the REAL temp of the die. There is no other REAL temp, aibooster/probeII are wrong, you don't measure cpu temps from the IHS....
The actual temp is 65 not 53Quote:
Been reading rest of thread. Seems that the 65C is actually offset by 12C. Ie actual is 53C. Not bad for full load, but to me it is the same as my AMD OCed temps when ambient is 30C. Given that the person who posted today is in the Uk, this number is very high compared to my 43C CPu at the moment (ambient 22C, 2x rosetta clients running full load).
You are right, something is out of line. Maybe his heat sink needs reseating or something.
i will install the ninja again but it's not that bad considering the low noise fan that comes with the ninja and it's still in the safe temp zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
The e6600 i had on back order from ingram will be deliverd later today too but that ones staying at work.
Not that I'm a big fan of it, but did you say you had tried lapping?Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
Other than that it could just be the chip!
Change the fan on the Ninja if you have one? Get some better compound? Improve case air-flow? Use the process of elimination!
Coretemp reads the on die digital temperature sensor buried in the core. The offset is a normal deltaT between the cpu sensor and the motherboard thermistor which is read in the bios and by other poling programs from the external IHS. Aibooster/Probe are not necessarily wrong, they read the external sensor, a similar temperature provided by mounting an external thermocouple. But like you say the actual temperature is 65. People should say which one they're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
i could but i'm not realy that botherd if the temps are a little high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonrakerâ„¢
tbh who cares what temp their IHS is. the only temp anyone cares about is that of the actual die.No point saying well my IHS is 50 degrees so its really cool if your die temp is 75 degrees..Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
Has anyone taken off a Conroe IHS yet?
I could easily do it,but im wondering whether its worth it.
someone did and they ripped the core clean off...Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
Indeed, see this for the pics..
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3878
..well the thing is we've got a hot plate at work,so ill set the temp to 90*c and hope for the best. :)
I think i can do this.:D
just don't LIFT or LEVER the IHS, try to slide it off the main solder contact area and then gently lift it up..
Which is exactly what im gonna do.;)
Its only a reference, as its a parallel offset there is nothing wrong with using external temperatures if you know the deltaT from the core in relation to the throttling. And it always wise to use an independent real world non-software based temperature monitor that you know can't be buggy. It's relevent because its the external surface and ambient temperature that the heatsink/block dissipation calculations are based/specified. It's the same for any cooling solution including industrial, you have to specify materials and deltas based on the externals.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Whats the point of taking the IHS off if its copper anyway
Well then the core heat goes directly to the heatsink rather than having to first be transferred to the IHS and then to the heatsink..Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
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If you haven't bought Conroe yet then I think this may be a sway factor for you. Although there is no ETA on the E6600.
It's only for this weekend!
So I presume it will end at 11:59pm this Sunday
Komplett have Retail E6700's in stock!:D