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11-18-2006, 06:15 PM
Tranzmit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

My latest disappointment is HD performance.

Everything here is faster, but HD performance really goes up and down here. I can go from a steady 27 MBps on LAN transfer down to 2, on a clean reboot when the computer is doing nothing. I thought it was a network issue until I tried writing video data to disk, it took twice as long as it did before.

I did a clean reinstall of windows a day after getting this system all set up. I am going to try different sata ports later, but this is no fun for now. :(

Have you set the drive to enable 32 bit transfers in the bios?
11-18-2006, 08:10 PM
Thasp

I never even knew there was such a setting for HDs. I never saw that on my DFI NF4-DAGF before. I will look for it, but if it is not set to enable 32 bit by default, then I do not have it set.
11-18-2006, 09:13 PM
kevsta112003

thasp what bios did you get 450 fsb with?
11-18-2006, 09:19 PM
Thasp

1503, it was stock.

Orthos gives me 83c at full load.. this is insane. I need my watercooling to get here soon. :(

Can I use winflash with this mobo like I did with my old DFI? The mobo manufacturers must be schizophrenic - it's 2006, but they still use floppy disks for BIOS flashing.. ? :(
11-18-2006, 09:22 PM
syne_24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

1503, it was stock.

Orthos gives me 83c at full load.. this is insane. I need my watercooling to get here soon. :(

Can I use winflash with this mobo like I did with my old DFI? The mobo manufacturers must be schizophrenic - it's 2006, but they still use floppy disks for BIOS flashing.. ? :(

If you have a usb thumb drive it's the best way to flash with this mobo. Load the bios file in the usb drive and stick it in the computer. Reboot into bios and go find EZ Flash in there and it takes you to your usb thumb drive, and load the bios file from there.
11-18-2006, 09:40 PM
Thasp

How about a UMS MP3 player? I don't have a thumb drive.

Can I put the files onto a CD and go from there?
11-18-2006, 09:59 PM
syne_24

I dunno about that, maybe try it? If the pc recognize it as a removable disk type and you can store the bios file in there, I dont see why it wouldnt work. I used to do the cd method with the nv boards, but I havent try it with this one yet. Just get a usb flash drive, it's very convenient for loading basic drivers and stuff, also there are tons of them for like under $20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ubCategory=522
11-18-2006, 10:53 PM
Thasp

I could buy a flash drive, but buying one to flash a BIOS is the wrong reason to - it should never require extra money to do what the product should be capable of doing on its own.

I load drivers by keeping my OS and data partitions seperate. I go into a setup folder, have programs and drivers in a seperate folder.

I will have to try a CD.

Do newer BIOSes let you set RAM subtimings? That's the only reason I care about this. I am annoyed at my :banana::banana::banana::banana:tacular RAM's inability to do more than boot into windows and freeze at 2.2v, 5-5-5-15 DDR900. It's 3-4-4-12 DDR 677 2.2v right now which passed lots of memtest. Even though the timings are tight for DDR2, it burns me that I'm running it below stock because I can't use the next-up divider of DDR900 with any kind of timings. :(
11-18-2006, 11:48 PM
NghtShd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

How about a UMS MP3 player? I don't have a thumb drive.

Can I put the files onto a CD and go from there?

I've done it using my mp3 player.
11-19-2006, 04:39 AM
cuke2u

Hi, I've just flashed the bios using my usb memory stick and found that it didn't reset the bios settings. Thus I will not be using this method and will go back to using Asus Flash, which does...
ChrisC
11-19-2006, 06:20 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

1503, it was stock.

Orthos gives me 83c at full load.. this is insane. I need my watercooling to get here soon. :(

Can I use winflash with this mobo like I did with my old DFI? The mobo manufacturers must be schizophrenic - it's 2006, but they still use floppy disks for BIOS flashing.. ? :(

Have you pulled your heat sink and verified full contact with the surface of the CPU?

I had the same issue with my Big Typhoon (replaced with Ultra 120 now) after removing it found I had only 50% contact!

sparx
11-19-2006, 10:33 AM
irenic

flashed to 1602 and the bios lagginess is still there.. :(
11-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Thasp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparx

Have you pulled your heat sink and verified full contact with the surface of the CPU?

I had the same issue with my Big Typhoon (replaced with Ultra 120 now) after removing it found I had only 50% contact!

sparx

Twice. I put thermal paste on the CPU in a conservative layer, then put a small drop in the middle, like I usually do. Then I put it on, twisted it a tiny bit, and screwed it on very tightly.

I tried that BIOS option and moving it over one sata port, it's still 27 MBps on LAN transfer and even faster writing video, and sometimes 1-2 MBps.. :(
11-19-2006, 12:57 PM
Cornel

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthVader

Weird indeed - I found that when I had my XFX 8800 GTX in the machine there was a delay (sometimes quite long) anytime I wanted to go into the hardware monitor in the settings.

However, I have noticed something unusual about this new BIOS version. PC Wizard 2006 is reporting my clock speed (at idle) of around 1.6ghz (for a stock speed of 2.4ghz) and around 1.8ghz for an overclock of 2.7ghz (at least at this speed the fans don't kick in at full pelt like at 3ghz). I probably should check if it has enabled speedstep in the BIOS actually. Oh and has the hardware monitor in the BIOS been simplified with this latest update?

EDIT - Turns out speedstep was set to automatic but even disabling it does not seem to help. Has anyone else found that their CPU speed is being reported as lower than it should be?

EDIT2 - By the way does having speedstep enabled have any effect on gaming? Is it best to leave it disabled?

I have a xfx 8800 gtx card, and it's a delay in post with this videocard.
I have 1503 bios.
11-19-2006, 01:39 PM
DarthVader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornel

I have a xfx 8800 gtx card, and it's a delay in post with this videocard.
I have 1503 bios.

I presume this issue applies to all 8800 GTXs rather than just the XFX one?
11-19-2006, 01:47 PM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasp

Twice. I put thermal paste on the CPU in a conservative layer, then put a small drop in the middle, like I usually do. Then I put it on, twisted it a tiny bit, and screwed it on very tightly.

I tried that BIOS option and moving it over one sata port, it's still 27 MBps on LAN transfer and even faster writing video, and sometimes 1-2 MBps.. :(

Are you get the 80c temp read from Core Temp Ver-0.93?
sparx
11-19-2006, 03:06 PM
Severance

hey guys i need help. this is my first post so im not very experienced. I have read all 80+ pages and have tried everything but still cant get over 360fsb.
x6800
p5wdh mb
corsair 5400pro with those lights on them.I have already fried my new corsair8500c5 trying to get them to run at 1066. Can somebody just post a link of all bios settings i need to set to get over 360fsb please...would help me alot thanx
11-19-2006, 03:34 PM
scaramonga

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Quote:

lashed to 1602 and the bios lagginess is still there..

Ah.....so its not just me...lol........damned irritating the BIOS lag :(

Also.....when I turned on PC today the BIOS was reporting 'overclocking or voltage overclock failure'.......press F1 to go to Setup??

I don't have the thing overclocked!!........just rebooted and all was OK?.......anyone had this?
11-19-2006, 03:45 PM
nanoprobe32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severance

hey guys i need help. this is my first post so im not very experienced. I have read all 80+ pages and have tried everything but still cant get over 360fsb.
x6800
p5wdh mb
corsair 5400pro with those lights on them.I have already fried my new corsair8500c5 trying to get them to run at 1066. Can somebody just post a link of all bios settings i need to set to get over 360fsb please...would help me alot thanx

Its a ram timing problem (safty feature)
when you boot at FSB 360+ the asus 975 boards
are more stricter with SPD timmings if your pushing high FSB

so when you set manual memory timings then save and reboot
it no's your ram cant run @ those speeds so it gives you a black screen

so now it then wants you to set auto SPD but the problem now is your memory is running way slack timmings

look at your SPD tables and i bet you they suck

so the only way to solve it, is buy ram that has aggrasive timings in the
SPD tables like the teams xtreem,Cellshock, Gskill, and you will boot 400 fsb with manual timings no problem.

i have found this out with my pw5 64 workstation
changed ram and no more 360 fsb bug
can boot @ 400 fsb 1.1 with memory

hope this helps alot of folks i spent ages trying to solve this.
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Severance

so your saying that if i enable spd i can go over 360? cus iv tried that too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanoprobe32

Its a ram timing problem (safty feature)
when you boot at FSB 360+ the asus 975 boards
are more stricter with SPD timmings if your pushing high FSB

so when you set manual memory timings then save and reboot
it no's your ram cant run @ those speeds so it gives you a black screen

so now it then wants you to set auto SPD but the problem now is your memory is running way slack timmings

look at your SPD tables and i bet you they suck

so the only way to solve it, is buy ram that has aggrasive timings in the
SPD tables like the teams xtreem,Cellshock, Gskill, and you will boot 400 fsb with manual timings no problem.

i have found this out with my pw5 64 workstation
changed ram and no more 360 fsb bug
can boot @ 400 fsb 1.1 with memory

hope this helps alot of folks i spent ages trying to solve this.
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Mykou

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaramonga

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Ah.....so its not just me...lol........damned irritating the BIOS lag :(

Also.....when I turned on PC today the BIOS was reporting 'overclocking or voltage overclock failure'.......press F1 to go to Setup??

I don't have the thing overclocked!!........just rebooted and all was OK?.......anyone had this?

Syne24,Irenic and I got the same lag issue during post .

:banana: :banana:
11-19-2006, 03:58 PM
nanoprobe32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severance

so your saying that if i enable spd i can go over 360? cus iv tried that too.

look @ your SPD tables with CPUz and post a screenshot
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
Severance

if i could just get it to boot with auto mem timings that would be ok cus i could just use memset to lower them? but i cant get it past 360fsb using auto spd

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanoprobe32

Its a ram timing problem (safty feature)
when you boot at FSB 360+ the asus 975 boards
are more stricter with SPD timmings if your pushing high FSB

so when you set manual memory timings then save and reboot
it no's your ram cant run @ those speeds so it gives you a black screen

so now it then wants you to set auto SPD but the problem now is your memory is running way slack timmings

look at your SPD tables and i bet you they suck

so the only way to solve it, is buy ram that has aggrasive timings in the
SPD tables like the teams xtreem,Cellshock, Gskill, and you will boot 400 fsb with manual timings no problem.

i have found this out with my pw5 64 workstation
changed ram and no more 360 fsb bug
can boot @ 400 fsb 1.1 with memory

hope this helps alot of folks i spent ages trying to solve this.
11-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Severance

yes i see that timings are very loose when using auto spd. But why wont it boot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severance

if i could just get it to boot with auto mem timings that would be ok cus i could just use memset to lower them? but i cant get it past 360fsb using auto spd
11-19-2006, 04:27 PM
nanoprobe32

your way above your ram limit, it problay would have to run
cas6 to hit over 360

even the corsair XMS2-8500C5 have very poor SPD timings
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9144/cpuzei9.png

Team Xtreem PC6400
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3792/spdyd0.jpg

cellshock PC6400
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4263/cellshockih9.jpg

so guess out of those 3 rams that will run into the 975 bug
corsair compatable spd timings myth

the Team Xtreem PC6400 and cellshock wont have the FSB bug over 360
simply because their programmed correctly.

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