ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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11-15-2006, 03:05 PM
Liquid3D

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

An indepth discussion indeed. ;) I had actually tried overclocking to the current values with my older Tagan 480W and the CPU fan going at full pelt was an issue with it too (this was with BIOS v1503 at the time I think). With the current one I did try leaving the memory voltage on auto and leaving the memory timings slightly higher as a result (at 5-5-5-12) but the CPU fan was still firing away at full pelt for some peculiar reason.

My whole explanation is absolutely WRONG!!!!! I misread your POST I thought it said your were concerned about the PSU fan spinning up not the "CPU" fan therefore disreagrd what I said or apply as if the problem you were discussing was the PSU fan spinning up everytime you etc etc etc.

As far as the CPU fan in the BIOS you may have the Fan speed contollers enabled. What I do is disable all such controls. I want my fans to spin full-out because i want my hardware to run as cool as possible regardless of the noise these fans make.
11-15-2006, 04:27 PM
kaiguy

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Originally Posted by Pol1977

So, you're saying that your P5W DH Deluxe boots up OK with 400MHz FSB and manual memory timing settings? What BIOS are you using?

My P5W DH Deluxe boots up perfectly. If you look at my signature you can see the particulars (400FSB, manual RAM timings, etc.). I'm currently using 1506 but it worked fine with 1503 and 1407. I also don't need to have my memory voltage very high at all nor my vcore. My only issue with my setup is the idle and load temps (cpu 46-50 idle). Aside from that, no instability, no boot problems.
11-15-2006, 04:32 PM
DarthVader

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Originally Posted by Liquid3D

As far as the CPU fan in the BIOS you may have the Fan speed contollers enabled. What I do is disable all such controls. I want my fans to spin full-out because i want my hardware to run as cool as possible regardless of the noise these fans make.

They are indeed enabled at the moment. It is a highly bizarre problem though because it never used to happen. Perhaps it is a change to the BIOS in one of the updates that is causing this sort of behaviour?
11-15-2006, 04:44 PM
kaiguy

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

They are indeed enabled at the moment. It is a highly bizarre problem though because it never used to happen. Perhaps it is a change to the BIOS in one of the updates that is causing this sort of behaviour?

I think I experienced something similar to you. When I was running at stock speeds, the auto-adjusting fan setting in the BIOS worked very well. Once I overclocked (not sure at what point it started happening) the CPU fan just went at max speed. I ended up disabling the automatic fanspeed control and went with a fan adapter to control the speed manually.

The problem is I don't know if it was due to a change in a BIOS version, or when the FSB went above a certain speed... so I'm little help there. But the overclocking is what is causing the erratic qfan control.
11-15-2006, 11:40 PM
Pol1977

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Originally Posted by kaiguy

My P5W DH Deluxe boots up perfectly. If you look at my signature you can see the particulars (400FSB, manual RAM timings, etc.). I'm currently using 1506 but it worked fine with 1503 and 1407. I also don't need to have my memory voltage very high at all nor my vcore. My only issue with my setup is the idle and load temps (cpu 46-50 idle). Aside from that, no instability, no boot problems.

I also have an E6400 and BIOS 1506 and am running @3.2GHz with 400 FSB and all that on Auto voltage except the MCH which has to be 1.65V (one step up from auto/normal which is 1.55V). My CPU idles at 28C now that it's getting colder but doesn'd go above 32C on idle even when it's warm (the Thermalright 120 Ultra and lian-li PC-V2000BPlusII case help there). And it's whisper quiet with 5 120mm fans @ <1000rpm and a 140mm PSU fan.

But I still can't find a way to boot my system at 400MHz FSB without SPD enabled. It doesn't matter what timings I put in manually, even if I put the same ones that are on the SPD. As stated some posts before, it is some memory subtiming issue which we hope will be fixed in some future BIOS.

Why you can run at 400MHz FSB and be able to set your timings manually at the same time is a mystery to me.
11-16-2006, 12:22 AM
kaiguy

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Originally Posted by Pol1977

I also have an E6400 and BIOS 1506 and am running @3.2GHz with 400 FSB and all that on Auto voltage except the MCH which has to be 1.65V (one step up from auto/normal which is 1.55V). My CPU idles at 28C now that it's getting colder but doesn'd go above 32C on idle even when it's warm (the Thermalright 120 Ultra and lian-li PC-V2000BPlusII case help there). And it's whisper quiet with 5 120mm fans @ <1000rpm and a 140mm PSU fan.

But I still can't find a way to boot my system at 400MHz FSB without SPD enabled. It doesn't matter what timings I put in manually, even if I put the same ones that are on the SPD. As stated some posts before, it is some memory subtiming issue which we hope will be fixed in some future BIOS.

Why you can run at 400MHz FSB and be able to set your timings manually at the same time is a mystery to me.

Not too sure. The type of RAM could play a role, no? Maybe these Corsair sticks are set for SPD at those settings (but I doubt it as it would likely be a bit relaxed--I should probably change it to SPD to see what CPU-Z shows it as). Or, as I said before, maybe it could be the board revision? I know that the serial number on my first board was 68 or 69MOAG, but this one is 6AMOAG--which, from what I have read, no one has mentioned on this thread. The voltage settings are manually set for the minimum on everything except vcore (1.25) and vdimm (2.0).

I think I need to try the 120 Ultra or the new Zalman. These temps with AS5 are really irritating me. But the room where the computer is located is consistently warm.
11-16-2006, 07:42 AM
Brahmzy

I couldn't set RAM timings @ 400FSB with REV 1 OCZ Platinum XTC 6400(SPD only), I RMA'd the RAM for the REV 2 stuff and can set all the timings I want @ 400+FSB.
11-16-2006, 09:18 AM
DarthVader

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Originally Posted by kaiguy

The problem is I don't know if it was due to a change in a BIOS version, or when the FSB went above a certain speed... so I'm little help there. But the overclocking is what is causing the erratic qfan control.

Personally I'm convinced it will be something that has changed in the BIOS. After all if it was not happening back in the day when overclocking it in theory has no reason to do so now.
11-16-2006, 12:36 PM
kaiguy

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

Personally I'm convinced it will be something that has changed in the BIOS. After all if it was not happening back in the day when overclocking it in theory has no reason to do so now.

Makes sense, but I could not for the life of me get the automatic fan control to work properly when overclocking. So I'd say its more likely that a BIOS update is what created this anomoly, rather than a setting (you really only have, what, two settings for speed control?).
11-16-2006, 12:45 PM
DarthVader

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Originally Posted by kaiguy

Makes sense, but I could not for the life of me get the automatic fan control to work properly when overclocking. So I'd say its more likely that a BIOS update is what created this anomoly, rather than a setting (you really only have, what, two settings for speed control?).

Indeed. Hopefully it will be fixed in a later BIOS update.
11-16-2006, 01:29 PM
wyattcoop

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

Indeed. Hopefully it will be fixed in a later BIOS update.

Beta 1602 on Asus FTP site dated 11/8/06 not sure what it updates or fixes.
11-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Thasp

I just got the board, it seems like this CPU cover thing doesn't come off. Do I have to live with this thing resisting the transfer of heat the whole time? Can I take it off? Can I keep it on without my temps being slaughtered by it?
11-16-2006, 02:25 PM
Thasp

Hmm, I got the cover thing off, now the stock heatsink takes the CPU out of the socket whenever I take it off.. the socket doesn't hold the CPU in anymor.

I feel lost from AMD-DFI land. :(

Oh great, there's a plastic piece on top of the metal cover that I had to take off, not remove the whole metal piece that kept the CPU in. Now I can't get the metal piece back on.
11-16-2006, 02:35 PM
kaiguy

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Originally Posted by Thasp

Hmm, I got the cover thing off, now the stock heatsink takes the CPU out of the socket whenever I take it off.. the socket doesn't hold the CPU in anymor.

I feel lost from AMD-DFI land. :(

I'm not sure what you're referring to... What CPU cover thing? The metal bracket that holds the CPU down?

Or, if you are referring to the pad on the heatsink/fan, that is the not supposed to be removed. It is used instead of thermal grease.

Whatever it is, though, the CPU should be firmly in place. Mine is practically bolted to the board with the metal bracket.

Added: Oh, the plastic guy. Yup, you remove that not the whole bracket. Hopefully you can get it back on, but that's going to be a problem.
11-16-2006, 02:58 PM
Thasp

I just got it back on, put the CPU on. I feel like I'm putting together my first pC again - boy intel is a pain in the ass!

I just put he heatsink on. I felt like I was fighting it the whole time, I really hope I didn't crack the motherboard doing this. We'll see tonight though. :D
11-16-2006, 03:33 PM
fornowagain

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Originally Posted by Pol1977

So, you're saying that your P5W DH Deluxe boots up OK with 400MHz FSB and manual memory timing settings? What BIOS are you using?

There are many posts in this forum from people who can't boot with manual timings and FSB higher than 360-370 MHz. I am one of them :P
What is your FSB and what BIOS are you using?

Well mine is one of the first and its always booted at 400MHz with manual timings way back to 0701.
11-17-2006, 03:20 AM
thorlak

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Originally Posted by axemanrio

thorlak, it sounds like the only thing that's changed is your MEMORY... you might want to check whether memory voltage is set to "Auto" in BIOS. If it is, overwrite the Auto setting with the rated voltage of your memory. Keep SPD enabled too. Let us know if this works.

Hello axemanrio, I've tried setting voltage to the rated voltage of my memory and keeping SPD enabled too. This haven't solved the problem :(, I think I've tried everything... I finally will make use of the motherboard warranty and change it for a new one.

Thanks for the help:)
11-17-2006, 04:24 AM
Liquid3D

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Unfortunately I can't run my DDRII-1000 (PC2-8000) beyond 533MHz when I clock past 400FSB.

It's sad really given the fact I have an E6400 which does 425FSB (so far) without touching Vcore, check out the numbers below 1.29V Vcore at 425FSB
11-17-2006, 06:51 AM
Pol1977

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Originally Posted by Liquid3D

Unfortunately I can't run my DDRII-1000 (PC2-8000) beyond 533MHz when I clock past 400FSB.

It's sad really given the fact I have an E6400 which does 425FSB (so far) without touching Vcore, check out the numbers below 1.29V Vcore at 425FSB

What MHC voltage are you using for 425MHz FSB?
11-17-2006, 08:41 AM
cuke2u

Thasp
Read the instructions of how to fit the CPU that comes with the CPU and your motherboard. Without following these you may have broken something quite expensive. I've just come over from AMD too and found this installation of the CPU very easy but only after I'd read up on it....
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11-17-2006, 09:04 AM
Timmaah

well bios 1503 let me boot up at 3.54ghz, all mobo vcores at max, cpu vcore at 1.5125v - got an e6600.

I feel as if ive finally hit a wall... namely fsb, ive got everything done, hyperpath disabled, spd set i just think that this motherboard doesnt like fsbs of ~400+ unless its modded... or maybe im just too scared to put anymore vcore in my cpu?
11-17-2006, 10:48 AM
jagt

I see 1602 is officially out @ asus.com now. How is this compared to the 1503 beta? Does it have the boot bug?
11-17-2006, 10:52 AM
Stelios

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Originally Posted by jagt

I see 1602 is officially out @ asus.com now. How is this compared to the 1503 beta? Does it have the boot bug?

No boot bug in any bios after 1503 . :)
11-17-2006, 11:02 AM
jagt

Ok right. How is 1602 anyway? I'm not sure if I can be assed to flash if there's no difference. Running 1503 now.
11-17-2006, 12:57 PM
Thasp

I'm doing 3.6 GHz right now at 1.5v on my e6400. 57c according to asus, 70 according to TAT. What temp can I be at before I enter the "your CPU will be dead in two months" zone?

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