I agree, this is my first OC computer that I have put together and the P5Q Pro board is an excellent OC board for beginners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
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I agree, this is my first OC computer that I have put together and the P5Q Pro board is an excellent OC board for beginners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
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Originally Posted by Ket
Don't forget now that Asus, after the 0803 screwed up Prime95 with there BIOSes up until I pointed out the issues to their team and they fixed it on 1406. I think that they started missing what ever it was that they missed at the before mentioned BIOSes again at a certain point because I started noticing issues on mine similar to the issues before that I pointed out to them, after going away from the 1406 BIOS. I think the next step up from 1406 was what 17xx.. That was actually on their site that is. The issue has probably been brought back in to the picture some how.
I'll try their newest BIOS and If I get probs I'll roll back to 1406 :up:
If you think about it even deeper, if Prime95 has been screwed up again by what ever it is they fixed in 1406, what else is screwed up that you can't really spot?? Are you losing floating point performace or percision?? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
That is something that would require me to take a in depth look it.. but if this board causes me trouble its going to be a £140 clay pidgeon made subject to my CO2 pistol :p:
OK! After about 3.5hrs of faffing around I just turned the M2F on :D I dunno if anyone has heard but the rumors about asus not paying too much attention to construction quality of the stupidly huge heatpipe pinfin assembly is not unfounded. While dismantling the assembly I was greeted with;
- Fine metal filings falling off into my lap. God knows how much damage they could of done to the system had they fell onto the board powered up!
- Copper plates were hideously dirty. Have some metal polish handy.
- Thermal compound used while looking quite good stuff, was just kinda dolloped on.
- One of the heatpipes being held by some kind of white epoxy has partially broken away, not sure how this will hinder it.
- NO backplates on the reverse of the board to prevent the PCB warping. I had hoped so far down the line asus would of seen the light on this, apparently not.
Be sure you don't miss to take off the heatsinks screwed down to the assembly itself, they will need attention too. Overall, not the kind of quality I expect from a £120 mobo :down: Its just a good job I shopped around and found it for £120 +p&p instead of the average I found it for which was £145 +p&p. Anyway, negatives aside, now the assembly is sorted out I have good confidence it cools the components its responsible for well. Props to asus for managing to keep the BIOS pre-installed up to date. I was expecting it to be 2-3 revisions behind, but nope, bang up to date :up:
Good that the new board works for you.
Lets see if you can get to 500FSB with the Q8400 :)
We will see. Right now I'm just monitoring temps. Without a small 40mm fan mounted NB and SB temps are 46 and 48c respectively. With a small 40mm fan those temps drop to 38 and 41c respectively. Not too bad I suppose. The M2F manual doesn't say, nor does a google search turn much up so maybe someone knows. Is it possible to use the black PCI-E slot with any other devices and not just the included SupremeFX board? Looks like it but I don't want to just put my Xonar in there.
YES, treat any of the slots as PCI-E slots, none are specific for Sound or GPU's.
If it fits in the slot it will actually run.
Someone here tried to tell me the included Sound Card will not run in the other non Black Slot but I know for a fact it will.
It was a different story on one of the other older ROG's (cannot remember if it was the 680I or Crosshair) but the little Top Black slot was upside down so only the included Asus Sound Card could be use in it. (hope you know what I mean).
I have had the Sound card in the bottom Blue PCI-E card but I was only messing about as I have a PCI X-FI and I know peeps who have used that top slot for other PCI-E devices (TV card etc).
I must have got lucky with my later Rev 2 Mobo (heatpipes fitted better than 1st batches).
My temps are high 30's or low 40's (dependant on voltage and load).
Think I seen 50's with summer heat or winter+central heating on when I was pumping higher voltage trying to get 5000FSB.
I really hope you get 500FSB (not just game (3D)stable) but your looking at a lot of luck TBH.
Thanks :up: I'll keep you all posted on how things go.
Sounds great, lets see later this week if your WiP bios helps me get away from my current 455FSB hell :D
So you gonna mod the new EFI BIOS they just released for the P5Q-D? ;)
EFI BIOSes require a whole new set of tools, which I don't have... yet. Hopefully asus release AFI BIOSes for all of their P45 based mobos onward, wouldn't make much sense just doing it for the Deluxe.
I'm new on the forum so first of all hi everyone. I've been using 2101m for P5Q-E for a few weeks now and reporting good results so far. I've been unable to go above ~420 FSB on original 2101, I could reach 447 with modded that brings my Q9550 to 3.8 GHz so I'm quite happy with it. Oddly I had to change the dram skews to reach stability. However I'm struggling to set 5:6 on my ram, running sync for now. 5:6 doesn't seem stable whatever the settings, still searching what is holding it.
A little off topic : I don't understand that need for EFI "bios". In the end it will only bring you various locks (DRM, certificates, and other "trusted" BS) behind some eyecandy. Linus on EFI. We're beginning to see that trend with the SLIC, no surprise to see MS promoting EFI... I have no problem for MS selling you windows and locking the "bios" as long as you agree to pay for this, but I have a problem when it comes to free software. "Oh sorry, the EFI board didn't received your licence fee for this year, so your OS won't be able to access the hardware". Sure there will be hacks, but you can rely on them to make it harder. And you're asking for it ? Seriously, go buy a mac and leave my old-fashioned bios on my PC :)
Cheers
Tell us all your hardware specs.
Hardware is P5Q-E, NB vA2, Q9550 E0, Gskill PC8500 PK 2GB*2, 8800 GTX, 2*150 GB Raptors, Agility 120 GB SSD, Seasonic S12 550W.
Actually I've reached stability, 6+ hours prime95 blend stable, failing around 4 hours before. Had to tune NB GTL and ram voltage. Anyway for the records here are my bios settings for those with similar or same setup.
CPU Ratio 8.5
FSB 447
PCI-E 101
FSB Strap 333
DRAM Freq 1074
Dram Clk Skew A1 +100ps
Dram Clk Skew B1 +100ps
tCL 5
tRCD 5
tRP 5
tRAS 15
tRRD 4
tRPC 70
tRTP 4
tRTW 8
Ai Clk Twist Moderate
CPL 8
Pull Ins All Phases Enabled
vCPU 1.225
CPU GTL 0/2 0.67
CPU GTL 1/3 0.67
vPLL 1.56
vFSB 1.22
vDRAM 2.0
vNB 1.18
NB GTL 0.66
vSB 1.1
vPCI-E 1.5
LLC Enabled
CPU Margin Optimized
All other settings auto.
Thank goodness I found this forum! I have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out a work-around for an ASUS P5QL-VM EPU MB out of an ASUS CM5570 Machine. The MB is restricted and won't let me flash to an actual P5QL-VM EPU BIOS. The P5QL designation is printed on the board, but the POST screen lists it as CM5570.
I am just going to throw caution to the wind and flash with the mBIOS provided, but if anyone has any suggestions or experience with this CM5570 board, any input would be appreciated although by the time any input is provided my MB may well be bricked.:)
Thanks.
Alright, I have tried my best to flash the bios. I continue to get an incompatible ROM ID message from the utility. Is there some way to work around this or am I stuck with this extremely limited bios Asus is providing? A few pertinent details:
Asus p5ql-vm epu CM5570 motherboard. Current Bios is 0301, no options for overclocking, no fan speed controls, pretty much as bad as a Dell laptop bios.
What I have tried:
- 1st I tried to flash with the p5qlvm-epu bios from Asus but that returned an incompatible ROM ID error.
- 2nd I tried to flash with the p5qlvm-epu 301mbios.ROM from Ket provided so generously. Same error.
- I attempted both flashes with the EZ flash utiility.
- I have been unsuccessful with running a different flash utility. I have a floppy drive but the MB doesn't have a FDD header.
- I am running Ubuntu 9.10 32-bit.
- I have DOS on a USB drive.
Am I stuck with this Bios until I ditch the board or is there another option?
Thanks.
At the risk of looking desperate, I am posting for a third time in a row.
Having had no success on flashing my Asus OEM board with an mBios and having received no advice or suggestion from the community I have attempted the following:
- I tried to mod my own bios using a hex editor and mmTool v. 3.12. I was able to successfully open both the CM5570 Bios v. 3.01 and Ket's mBios v. 3.01. I placed the ROM ID from the CM5570 Bios provided by Asus into Ket's mBios in an attempt to fool the computer, but the computer is no fool.
- I tried to utilize the AMIBCP tool(s) on the CM5570 Bios in an attempt to unlock any hidden/locked options. I was thwarted by each version of AMIBCP I tried to use.
- v. 7.60.04 would not recognize my bios file to open it.
- v. 2.42 would not install/execute properly on my 32-bit XP Dell.
- v. 3.13 installed and executed but crashed when I attempted to load any bios to it.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, I do not give up easily. I have not broken down to the point where I will order a Bios chip off of eBay. I have access to an ePROM programmer and may try to upload Ket's bios onto another IC and swap that IC in for the 8-dip IC on the CM5570/P5QL-VM EPU. As usual, I would appreciate any input or suggestions.
Well here is a question for you guys..
I just upgraded to w7-64... All works great except on wake from sleep.. If i go in and race and run laps after A wake-- i get stutters... If i do a fresh start--- i get no stutters.... Do think this could be a bios thing? Im running 1406m right now... Works great on my xp system... Butttt would like to get my w7 stutter free...
All my drivers are up to date-- and i have also tried older gpu drivers.. chipset is up to date.. Truned off search sync--- along with played with the power settings... Yet every time i wake from sleep-- stutters-- any time i reboot-- no stutters...
I come and go from my computer throughout the day-- so reboots every time just isnt realistic...
Any thoughts?
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I just upgraded to w7-64... All works great except on wake from sleep..
I guess it could be a bios thing. It could be a lot of other things as well.Quote:
Do think this could be a bios thing? Im running 1406m right now... Works great on my xp system...
Just a couple of quick questions, have you installed any other software other than win7 onto your machine since the upgrade? Have you taken a look at your system resources usage before sleep compared to after sleep to see if there is a resources hog issue? What software do you have running when your system goes into sleep mode? Does it happen when you have no non-OS software running before entering sleep mode? Have you tried to boot your computer with the minimal amount of drivers and auto-start software and then immediately after the OS boots, enter into sleep mode prior to opening anything else?
Which power settings did you play with, the settings in the BIOS, the settings in the OS, or both? What are the details of your hardware setup? What version of XP were you using, 32-bit or 64-bit? When you say sleep, do you mean Standby, Hibernate, Suspend or something else altogether?
Is there a particular reason you think it might be the bios and not something else?
Hi I am sharing my new P5Q PRO mod
http://www.mediafire.com/?ug2wjrtanzn
with P5Q PREMIUM CPUID, P5Q PRO TURBO Memory Table, Intel 8.9.1.1002, MARVELL L72, AlienWare SLIC 2.1.
I am currently running this mod. No problems so far. But I will continue testing. It's true that the higher the raid bios version become, the faster the raid array is.
Hey Ket,
I want to thank you for all these great modded bios's for all the people you've shared. I've used the 2102 modded bios for mine Asus P5q-pro and could stable overclock my setup to 4.05 Ghz from 3.85 Ghz using a Q9550.
I tried for a year long getting passed the 3.85 Ghz but to no succes until I tried your latest modded bios and didn't give up finding a sweet spot to run my system stable testing it with IntelBurnTest running it on 32-bit and 64-bit.
My bios settings for the people with more or less the same setup:
CPU Ratio 8.5
FSB 471
PCI-E 100
FSB Strap 400
DRAM Freq 942
Dram Clk Skew CPU normal
Dram Clk Skew NB normal
tCL 5
tRCD 5
tRP 5
tRAS 15
tRRD auto
tRPC 55
tRTP auto
tRTW auto
Ai Clk Twist Light (stronger resulted in errors in WinXp and Windows 7)
CPL 14 (Higher settings is maybe better for higher FSB bus and vica versa)
Pull Ins All Phases Disabled (Enabling all phases or some needed more volt to CPU to get it stable)
Memory OC. Charger Enabled (Disabling this option gave me errors running IntelBurnTest)
vCPU 1.35125
CPU GTL 0.61x
vPLL 1.52
vFSB 1.30
vDRAM 2.08
vNB 1.40
vSB 1.20
vPCI-E 1.60
LLC Enabled
CPU Margin Compatible
If anyone wants to ask me a question regarding to overclocking please Pm me and maybe I can help with a similar setup like I've.
Btw I read somewhere trough this thread that some people have trouble flashing back to their old bios, because Asus disabled this option. Luckily there is a special flash.exe which makes it still possible to revert back to your old bios if that was more succesful.
To flash back to your old bios you need to startup in DOS, than you put this flash.exe and your older bios on the same disk and type the command A:\afu236u /i[filename].rom press enter and than the flashing begins. After it's done restart your computer.
Link flash.exe: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G1HUOT8B
Good Luck all!
Need some help choosing bios. I need a bios that will make my cpu go the highest, dont care about memory speed or anything like that but i need raw mhz, if it makes my board push the cpu 1fsb more i need it :) Its going into a p5q pro :)
Also, i dont need stable speed but pure suicide :) Running a E2160 @ 3850 atm
Hi Snowman, I think the 1613 bios version may be the best version for you, because before I had a dual core processor namely the e8400 and I reached a fsb bus of 480 Mhz with the highest cpu ration 9.0. But sometimes every system is a little bit different so you should try on your system which bios gets for you the best results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89