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07-31-2008, 03:02 PM
wongnog

I'm confused on one thing about this northbridge strap business. When you set it on Auto, doesn't it sometimes switch to 400 automatically then?
07-31-2008, 03:06 PM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

I'm confused on one thing about this northbridge strap business. When you set it on Auto, doesn't it sometimes switch to 400 automatically then?

no, never.
07-31-2008, 03:12 PM
NBF

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

Wow 1.5V for VCore, are you on water cooling? Forgot to mention that I'm on air cooling, I have an OCZ Vendetta 2 using OCZ Freeze TIM. And I thought you were on 516x6, are you more stable at 500x7? I didn't think the quad Kents could go that high.

I was just trying out the board, I run 450x8 or 400x9 depending on which RAM kit is on the rig.

Yes, 1,5Vcore for 3600... this Q6600 is the worst I've had :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

1.5v on the northbridge for 500fsb!???

I was hoping to get lower PL :rofl:

That kind of Volts is totally unnecessary
07-31-2008, 03:12 PM
miguelca

Hi,

I've had a similar problem too.
It seems this mobo (or more likely a buggy BIOS) doesn't like the strap to be manually selected. :shrug:
If I leave the strap setting on AUTO and select a memory frequency that uses the 400 strap I don't have any problem though. :confused:
When I forced the 400 strap my PC refused to boot.

IMHO the P5Q Deluxe BIOS still has a LOT of room for improvement.
Let's hope the guys at ASUS are working hard... :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortCitySlim

That is the exact same thing that happens to my Q6700! About 1 month ago I tried 400fsb strap and no boot at all. In fact I had to clear my CMOS because I couldn't restart or anything, and then when I did get CMOS cleared and settign restored minus the strap I was no longer stable at my previous setttings so I think I screwed something up somehow, I will never use 400strap again out of fear.:confused:
07-31-2008, 03:47 PM
flopper

Replaced my e8200 for a new e8500 since the pricedrop made it worthwhile.
And ofc, overclocking directly.

Now, I spent my whole day, trying to adjust, tweak and get it to run Orthos Blend stable, since it didnt run for a minute. Tried everything I could think of, which my brain did well indeed. This forum was great help btw ;)
However, I finnaly nailed the issue,
its fsb/ram instability.
After a day, and some coffe, some curses, and some more, I tried lower the multipel to 8.5, run 500fsb and performance level 12, and then it went trough and did run blend.

Since it worked to run blend, I figure how high I could go? currently 8.5x527fsb and 1.52vcore, I know, its high, but its just testing stuff out.:yepp:
07-31-2008, 04:31 PM
wongnog

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBF

Yes, 1,5Vcore for 3600... this Q6600 is the worst I've had :(

What is your cooling setup and how are your temps?
07-31-2008, 04:39 PM
NBF

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

What is your cooling setup and how are your temps?

Scythe Ninja with 2x106cfm fans, temps are in the high 60s under Prime load.

It needs high Vcore but handles well heat, kind of a trade off.
07-31-2008, 04:45 PM
wongnog

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

no, never.

So what is the nothbridge strap set to when you put it on auto?
07-31-2008, 04:56 PM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

So what is the nothbridge strap set to when you put it on auto?

it would depend on the fsb and if youre setting the ddr speed manually or not.
but generally it will set nbs333.

when it comes to any of these P5Q boards, you really wanna keep anything in the bios away from being set to auto.
07-31-2008, 08:37 PM
PortCitySlim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbosan

I have a couple of questions.

Can anyone who has ram that they know is capable of 1200 MHz 5-5-5-15 get it to run at 1200 MHz on this board? I can hit 1125 MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 1.90v (bios) on PL10 and 333 strap orthos/OCCT stable, but 1200 is not happening - I get black screen on boot.

Does anyone know what the southbridge voltage is at when it is set to AUTO? I don't want to fry it so I'm think I will set it t 1.2v as the AUTO and lowest voltage settings (in the case of the SB 1.1v) for all other voltages except vdimm over volt excessively.

You must have the same memory as me. I have heard a few people hitting 1200 with my kit but I have no divider for my current overclock. I am testing 1133mhz 5-5-5-15 1.94v and PL10 right now. I have my FSB strap on auto, the only strap for 1133mhz is 400 and last time I manually set that it crashed on me.
07-31-2008, 09:53 PM
PortCitySlim

Timbosan, what memory do you have? I just got my set to pass PL10 at 1133 with SRC and MemOC charger. I am going to step down to PL9 and 8 and if those pass I am going for Moderate twister or Light if moderate fails. I run 2 hour OCCT ram tests because I have no working version of Super PI, I have Vista64 and am having trouble getting it to work.
07-31-2008, 10:42 PM
intarweb

Hmm, ok. Is there any reliable way for me to eliminate the hardware itself as the cause of my sound issue?
07-31-2008, 11:07 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paodaf

Hi,
is it good settings for Q9450 for 3200Mhz?
I'm not sure about CPU GTL Voltage, is 0.63 safe for this CPU?]
Thanks

FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 801
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.22
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO --> I run 0.63 on my Qx
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO --> I run 0.63 on my Qx
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1 --> change on 1.12 (your setting overvolts badly)
DRAM Voltage: 1.82
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Just change the FSB Term Voltage... and try to find the lowest stable setting besides 1.1...

To gain some ram performance try to set Transaction booster to Manual and go as low as possible... 10 should be doable... also try to play with the Clock twister : Moderate maybe...

For the rest looks fine...
07-31-2008, 11:24 PM
PortCitySlim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbosan

I have TeamXtreem PC8500.

I am using Orthos Large FFT test to test the ram, as well as OCCT. SPI 32M isn't hard enough on the ram to test if it's really 100% stable IMO. Memtest is also a good preliminary test but I cant find my cd. I have foundin the past though that I could pass memtest but fail in Orthos.

I'm dubious about using the 'OC charger' I dont want to burn my ram and I'm unsure if it increases current (drive strength) or what. I have it on AUTO. PL9 for me is no go at 534 FSB & ram 1:1.

What vNB & vDIMM are you using to be stable at 1133 with SRC and OC charger?

I am using NBv1.26 with 1.94 for my Ram. I am almost done testing PL9 it has made it through 1.5hours of OCCT Ram test so far. Hopefully I only have 2 more of these to run.:)

Edit: @ Leeghoofd, just a hypothetical question here, I am not there yet but which setting would give the best Ram performance PL8/Light or PL9/Moderate??
07-31-2008, 11:41 PM
PortCitySlim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbosan

OK thanks I will try increasing the vNB and see if I can gain some stability. I'm at 534 FSB though so PL10 and SRC at that speed may be pretty hard to get stable. Im not to keen on going over 1.26v (NB) though as the rated max for the P45 chipset is 1.21v. The reason you can run PL9 is that you're at 425 FSB and using a divider for your ram. At 1:1 PL10 is as low as you can go.

Yep, I am using 3:4 divider. I could also run 1066 but if I can run 1133 stable with PL 8 or 9 and Twister set to moderate I will be a very very happy person:)
08-01-2008, 01:40 AM
PortCitySlim

PL9 just passes. Working on PL8 now:)
08-01-2008, 04:00 AM
Martin.v.r

Bios 0803 no go x6 multip.. an Bios 1102 can i not run x8 multip.. :confused:
E8400
but I can run,low-volt in 1102 bios :rolleyes:
08-01-2008, 05:17 AM
truehighroller

Not all boards are the same. Did you flash to the 0803? It might have been your flash wasn't the best and you flashing up wrote over what it might have missed with the 0803.
08-01-2008, 06:08 AM
blizblaz

this board has played quite nice with the E8600 I picked up last week
settled for 4ghz @ 1.21v

some other results are below
didnt get pass 4.7ghz (1.49v) though since my HSF is limiting the system, temps were hitting 79C

4.0ghz @ 1.21v, 24/7 setup
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1...rs66ey9.th.jpg

4.5ghz (10x450) @ 1.41v, prime smallFFT 8hrs+
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6...1818rr2.th.jpg

4.6ghz (10x460) @ 1.44v (temps starting to get high so stopped priming after 30mins)
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1...1818ul3.th.jpg
08-01-2008, 06:11 AM
Martin.v.r

watercooling

E8400 @ 4.2GHZ bios 0803 1.3850v can not start multip..x6
E8400 @ 4.2GHZ bios 1102 1.3650v can not start multip..x8 did not test in now multip x6,but it comes
08-01-2008, 07:10 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.v.r

watercooling

E8400 @ 4.2GHZ bios 0803 1.3850v can not start multip..x6
E8400 @ 4.2GHZ bios 1102 1.3650v can not start multip..x8 did not test in now multip x6,but it comes

Was LLC on AUTO or Enabled ? will test tonite ya multi issues...
08-01-2008, 07:42 AM
eurototo

New 1103 Bios for P5Q Deluxe

Hi,

New 1103 Bios for P5Q Deluxe on Asus FTP:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ELUXE-1103.zip
08-01-2008, 07:50 AM
sxs112

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurototo

Hi,

New 1103 Bios for P5Q Deluxe on Asus FTP:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ELUXE-1103.zip

[ 1103 ]
----------------------
Update boot block.
08-01-2008, 08:25 AM
truehighroller

Is the 1103 on their ftp the same 1103 I currently have running on it? I should say had running on my rmaed one..
08-01-2008, 08:28 AM
JHS

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

Is the 1103 on their ftp the same 1103 I currently have running on it? I should say had running on my rmaed one..

I think you have 1102 now ;)

But I'm wondering same thing. Is there any changes between 1102 beta and 1103

Oh well. Takes only few minutes to flash and add settings again so maybe I flash anyways later today :)

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