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02-23-2008, 06:36 AM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

any change in performance?

nope..unlikely. As said...those are both pcie x 16 slots.

edit:
14970 3dmarks 06 on PCIE1
14970 3dmarks 06 on PCIE3

So..same performance!
02-23-2008, 07:55 AM
Mikael4a

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexy

uh..AFAIK memset sets those in real time also right in windows.

Well yes but when you restart those settings still aren´t applied before windows boots so you can´t test them with memtest.
02-23-2008, 09:30 AM
carmatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

i think 5:6 then 1:1 is easiest to get high FSB

im new... i dont understand what the 5/6 and 1/1 ratios refer to??
02-23-2008, 09:37 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by carmatic

im new... i dont understand what the 5/6 and 1/1 ratios refer to??

Code:

200/667....3:5 200/800....1:2 266/667....4:5 266/800....2:3 266/1066...1:2 333/667....1:1 333/800....5:6 333/1066...5:8
02-23-2008, 09:44 AM
carmatic

thanks!!! ive been looking for something like that

my fsb is 442, and my strap is 333/800 , cpu multi at x8 ... so that gives 3.537ghz cpu and 1061mhz memory... i keep my memory at 5-5-5-18 and everything in the clock fine delay as more aggressive , then set the dividers to keep the ram at slightly above 1000mhz ... is there a better way?
02-23-2008, 10:29 AM
flexy

its a try and error thing, depending how much your hardware can handle. Some dividers my board here doesnt like at all. I am also at 3537 right now, anything higher and i might need WAY more volts. Ram doesnt go too high either here.
02-23-2008, 11:02 AM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexy

nope..unlikely. As said...those are both pcie x 16 slots.

edit:
14970 3dmarks 06 on PCIE1
14970 3dmarks 06 on PCIE3

So..same performance!

So, the second is the 4x non pci-e 2.0?
02-23-2008, 12:13 PM
Blackwhite

Very often my comp don't wanna start after night - fans spining and that's all - there is no signal, nothing, I have to restet comp and then it's working fine.
I had the same on Abit IP35.
Any ideas?
02-23-2008, 02:10 PM
carmatic

i know you guys have run benchmarks and all so i want to ask you...

what gives better performance, tight ram timings and low fsb or dividers, or high memory mhz with loose timings?
02-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by carmatic

i know you guys have run benchmarks and all so i want to ask you...

what gives better performance, tight ram timings and low fsb, or high fsb with loose timings?

Do you mean mem freq? because FSB and Timings are unrelated. The optimal thing is to have high freq with low timings, but at a certain point if your freq goes high and the timings follow, it doesnt improve performance. The key here is a correct balance between the two and you need to find that by raising the mem freq and seeing where you start to lose performance. Then work down from that mem freq. and work on your timings. ;)
02-23-2008, 02:19 PM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwhite

Very often my comp don't wanna start after night - fans spining and that's all - there is no signal, nothing, I have to restet comp and then it's working fine.
I had the same on Abit IP35.
Any ideas?

Is this after a total shutdown? Standby? Hibernate?

Have you tried another PSU and seen how that psu reacts to the same situation? I find it near impossible to believe that two boards from two different manufacturers and different chipsets could have the exact same problem. :)
02-23-2008, 02:23 PM
carmatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwhite

Very often my comp don't wanna start after night - fans spining and that's all - there is no signal, nothing, I have to restet comp and then it's working fine.
I had the same on Abit IP35.
Any ideas?

theres a setting called 'boot up clock' or something like that in the bios, try messing with it?
02-23-2008, 03:01 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russian

So, the second is the 4x non pci-e 2.0?

nope, its two 16x PCIE Gen 2 slots. 3rd, all the way on the botton is 4x
02-23-2008, 03:04 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by carmatic

i know you guys have run benchmarks and all so i want to ask you...

what gives better performance, tight ram timings and low fsb or dividers, or high memory mhz with loose timings?

there was a very good comparison on some site..i think it was on an OCZ site where they did such comparisons.

As far as i remember...CPU speed, then mem speed

Some very few theoretical applications preferred a litle lower mem speeds but at tight timings, but for overall and real life performance more mem speed is better even at lose timings - so 500 mhz at 5.5.5.15 would be better than 440 4.4.4.12 (just as an example)
02-23-2008, 03:16 PM
Russian

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexy

nope, its two 16x PCIE Gen 2 slots. 3rd, all the way on the botton is 4x

Is there any place i can see this at? i have just been getting alot of contradicting info.
02-23-2008, 03:19 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russian

Is there any place i can see this at? i have just been getting alot of contradicting info.

In your manual.
02-24-2008, 10:21 AM
Mikael4a

My e8400 Q750A031 seems to be a bad batch :mad:
But it´s always core #0 that is unstable and core #1 that is stable. So could the GTL REF voltages help core #1 or some other settings?

1/11 Bios Changes are in RED and the rest are default

Code:

PC Health Status Adjust CPU Temp: +15 and it´s still ~3 degrees under coretemp during load CPU Feature - Thermal Management Control: Disabled - PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled - Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled - CIE Function: Disabled - Execute Disable Bit: Disabled - Virtualization Technology: Disabled - Core Multi-Processing: Enabled none of the others is needed right? Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2 Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled CPU Clock Ratio: 9x - Target CPU Clock: 3996 CPU N/2 Ratio: Enabled CPU Clock: 444 Boot Up Clock: AUTO DRAM Speed: 333/667 - Target DRAM Speed: 889 PCIE Clock: 100mhz PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled Voltage Settings CPU VID Control: 1.4375v CPU-Z 1.456V No more is suggested for 24/7 am I right? CPU VID Special Add: AUTO DRAM Voltage Control: 2.10v SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51 NB Core Voltage: 1.504 CPU VTT Voltage: 1.100 Vcore Droop Control: Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong Host Slew Rate: Weak GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110 x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110 x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110 DRAM Timing - Enhance Data transmitting: - Enhance Addressing: - T2 Dispatch: Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO - DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current - DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Curren - DIMM 1 Control fine delay: Current - DIMM 2 Control fine delay: Current - Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO - DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current - DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current - DIMM 3 Control fine delay: Current - DIMM 4 Control fine delay: Current - Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: AUTO Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING) CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5 RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5 Precharge Delay (tRAS): 18 All Precharge to Act: AUTO REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 54 as suggested by OCZ for my memory Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): AUTO Read delay phase adjust: Enter Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO - Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO - Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO - Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO - Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto MCH ODT Latency: AUTO Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 4 Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 4 ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO

Any suggestions are welcome

edit: my signature doesn´t seem to show up for some reason so here are the specs

E8400 Q750A031
DFI Lanparty LT X38-T2R
4GB OCZ DDR2-1000 XTC Platinum
BFG GeForce 8800GTS OC 512MB
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W Quad
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
Thermalright HR-03 GT
02-24-2008, 12:03 PM
Blackwhite

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russian

Is this after a total shutdown? Standby? Hibernate?

Have you tried another PSU and seen how that psu reacts to the same situation? I find it near impossible to believe that two boards from two different manufacturers and different chipsets could have the exact same problem. :)

It's after total shutdown.On my old Abit Quad GT was ok.
02-24-2008, 12:35 PM
zsamz_

well my board is only happiest when on 69%gtl settings
n loves my ballistix over 1200mhz 2.09v
she even loves 500fsb
02-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Mikael4a

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

well my board is only happiest when on 69%gtl settings
n loves my ballistix over 1200mhz 2.09v
she even loves 500fsb

By that do you mean you use 69 on all three settings? Iow

x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 69
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 69
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 69

I can get fully Orthos stable with 1.4V at 3906 (9x434) (1:1) but need to bump it to 1.4375V if I want to run 5:6 (1042). So do you think GTL settings could get me to 4GHz?

edit: your sig says e6850 or doesn´t that make a diffrence? can the new 45nm cpu:s take the same gtl voltages?
02-24-2008, 01:38 PM
zanzabar

no thats not the same as teh % the gtl on this board is a number so u have to find 69% on your own, so if ur at 1.4V then u need 96/94 for the cpu gtl
02-24-2008, 01:41 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael4a

By that do you mean you use 69 on all three settings? Iow

x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 69
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 69
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 69

I can get fully Orthos stable with 1.4V at 3906 (9x434) (1:1) but need to bump it to 1.4375V if I want to run 5:6 (1042). So do you think GTL settings could get me to 4GHz?

edit: your sig says e6850 or doesn´t that make a diffrence? can the new 45nm cpu:s take the same gtl voltages?

69%
you go according to volts you using
02-24-2008, 01:48 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwhite

Very often my comp don't wanna start after night - fans spining and that's all - there is no signal, nothing, I have to restet comp and then it's working fine.
I had the same on Abit IP35.
Any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russian

Is this after a total shutdown? Standby? Hibernate?

Have you tried another PSU and seen how that psu reacts to the same situation? I find it near impossible to believe that two boards from two different manufacturers and different chipsets could have the exact same problem. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwhite

It's after total shutdown.On my old Abit Quad GT was ok.

my first inclination is the same as "Russian", your PSU might be the culprit...BUT...i did have cold and warm post problems on this board...it was intermittent...a guy suggested increasing the NB voltage and when i put it up in the 1.65v range it stopped and posted everytime...just a suggestion.
02-24-2008, 02:04 PM
PhilDoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

well my board is only happiest when on 69%gtl settings
n loves my ballistix over 1200mhz 2.09v
she even loves 500fsb

You're running a 65nm cpu though. Don't have one, but from what I've read they like the GTL's a little above 67%. The e8400 I'm running seems to like them a little lower, which seems to be the case for a few in the P35 thread as well.
02-24-2008, 02:13 PM
t_ski

OK, guys, I finally got around to installing the mobo and CPU this weekend. Decided to add Vista to the mix as well, but I have a small problem. I can't get the audio driver to load. The Device Manager shows HDMI audio, which is the one from the 3870X2. When I manually try to install the audio drivers, I get the yellow exclamation mark in the Device Manager and it says the device cannot start. If I click on "find solutions," nothing comes up.

I tried to install from the driver CD and the DL file on the DFI website. I get 6 or 8 entries to choose from when I install the device manually. Anybody else have this?? :confused:

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