The Fermi Thread - Part 3

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03-26-2010, 11:02 AM
cowie

[QUOTE=96redformula;4308033]Hey Fermi ROCKS on Uningine, I LOVE THIS GAME!

that game was a big hit when the 5xxx sieres hit the market now it will lose its luster :rolleyes:
03-26-2010, 11:05 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by eric66

yeah and its with 10.2 driver with 10.3a i expect ati to be faster than 480 in dirt 2 with dx 11 well gtx 480 is really mixed bag don't know they bragged about dx 11 and tess so much now they perform worse in it :p:

yeah :D

but I do think these tests were done with 10.3.

Also it looked like they were able to run the card all right with a 15% overclock which isn't too shabby. It must have hit 95C or something.
03-26-2010, 11:05 AM
Exa.bit

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Originally Posted by Sentential

Good god those load temps are really quite frightening. Almost 100*C at load? As much as I would be up for buying one of these those temps really have me concerned.

My room is normally close to 30*C in the summer I just dont see how I could have a single card, much less SLI function with anything less than 100% on fan, and thats not even for overclocking. :down:

I guess we'll see what hexus's temps were at 80% fan speed, that will be the make or break as far as I'm concerned. I just cannot buy something that pulls that much power and runs that hot.

Im sure watercooled these chips will be fantastic but air cooled seems to be pushing it to say the least.

Hexus temps showed 101c in furmark when OC'd at 80% fan. No voltage adjustment.
03-26-2010, 11:05 AM
cegras

lol @ hexus bang for buck and bang for watt; GTX480 soundly fails those.
03-26-2010, 11:06 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Motiv

The other leaked site had some bizarre results too. The 5870 pulled ahead on stalker in dx11.

that would be fun if its true so in dx 11 games 5870 does better :ROTF: wow r600 is really very scalable i say :p:
03-26-2010, 11:06 AM
damha

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Originally Posted by japamd

You're welcome =)

Unfortunately, no :(

I said almost all....

Thanks.

Sad to say the least :( I am scared of seeing what the 470 is capable of now (or not capable of).

Three titles (which nvidia of course didnt optimize for :rolleyes:)
Compared to the 1GB 5870
Uses 155W at load over the 5870 wtf! (40 watts over my prediction, so close!)

And can someone explain to me what the hell the point of tessellation is if its going to reduce performance?!?

http://www.abload.de/img/20drj8.png
http://www.abload.de/img/219sme.png
03-26-2010, 11:08 AM
Nightcover

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Originally Posted by damha

And can someone explain to me what the hell the point of tessellation is if its going to reduce performance?!?

Graphics enhancements?
03-26-2010, 11:08 AM
gOJDO

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Originally Posted by ElSel10

What is your reasoning here? Not only was R600 6 months late and power hungry, but it was significantly outperformed by the competition, and it was not even on the charts once AA was enabled.

That isn't the case at all for the 480.

Well, if you take 5970 into account, actually we have the pretty same scenario. And let's not forget the 5990 which is ready and waiting for Fermi to show up and put it into shame.
03-26-2010, 11:09 AM
Leibritz

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Originally Posted by cegras

lol @ hexus bang for buck and bang for watt; GTX480 soundly fails those.

sadly, Hexus got nVidia ass bang...
03-26-2010, 11:10 AM
Chumbucket843

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Originally Posted by eric66

yeah and its with 10.2 driver with 10.3a i expect ati to be faster than 480 in dirt 2 with dx 11 well gtx 480 is really mixed bag don't know they bragged about dx 11 and tess so much now they perform worse in it :p:

look at unigine, even if it is optimized for nvidia, evergreen scales poorly with tessellation. 5970 goes from 50 to 26fps and gtx480 goes from 45 to 30fps.

dirt2 is pretty much slapped on dx11 like how crysis just threw in motion blur and called it dx10.http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/20...-look-dirt-2/3
03-26-2010, 11:10 AM
cencik

im really disappointed by nvidia. And yes power consumption is a HUGE faktor in europe. I live i danmark so most expensive electricity in the europe. My 8800gts is getting old. Time for hd 5850 when price is right.
03-26-2010, 11:11 AM
Motiv

for those who missed the other site, before it pulled the results...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jgj3jyrntqy/fermi.7z
03-26-2010, 11:12 AM
Gorguls

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Originally Posted by damha

Thanks.

Sad to say the least :( I am scared of seeing what the 470 is capable of now (or not capable of).

Three titles (which nvidia of course didnt optimize for :rolleyes:)
Compared to the 1GB 5870
Uses 155W at load over the 5870 wtf! (40 watts over my prediction, so close!)

And can someone explain to me what the hell the point of tessellation is if its going to reduce performance?!?

http://www.abload.de/img/unigine2010-03-2321-1515tl.png

http://www.abload.de/img/unigine2010-03-2321-19a6rt.png
03-26-2010, 11:14 AM
gOJDO

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Originally Posted by cencik

im really disappointed by nvidia. And yes power consumption is a HUGE faktor in europe. I live i danmark so most expensive electricity in the europe. My 8800gts is getting old. Time for hd 5850 when price is right.

You better buy yourself a 5850 faster before the price-jump. :rofl:
03-26-2010, 11:16 AM
hurleybird

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

yeah :D

but I do think these tests were done with 10.3.

10.3a actually, first thing I looked for when it went up :D
03-26-2010, 11:16 AM
Marios

ATI just needs hardware physics support and a bit more memory.
Otherwise why would anyone buy a dinosaur like GeForce Fermi?
Too bad for desktop PCs.
03-26-2010, 11:18 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

look at unigine, even if it is optimized for nvidia, evergreen scales poorly with tessellation. 5970 goes from 50 to 26fps and gtx480 goes from 45 to 30fps.

dirt2 is pretty much slapped on dx11 like how crysis just threw in motion blur and called it dx10.http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/20...-look-dirt-2/3

if uniengine could be used in game yeah i've said tahts cool but for now its something like 3dmark to me :up:

btw i apologize seems imade mistake by saying bench was done with 10.2 sowwy :p:
03-26-2010, 11:18 AM
Gorguls

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Originally Posted by Marios

ATI just needs hardware physics support and a bit more memory.
Otherwise why would anyone buy a dinosaur like GeForce Fermi?
Too bad for desktop PCs.

DX11 Tesslation is Next Gen.Fermi is the only real DX11 Card.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_car...mi/N174/22.png
03-26-2010, 11:18 AM
NaMcO

There's always a solution :rofl:

http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/powerfermi.jpg
03-26-2010, 11:21 AM
Tim

Wow, looking at the Hexus benches, 480 is crazy fast in some games, but so "slow" in others when compared to 5870. Crysis is a major dissapointment for me.

But let's see how the other reviews do. I hope that it will shine more in future heavy tesselated DX11 games.
03-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Nightcover

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Originally Posted by Tim

Wow, looking at the Hexus benches, 480 is crazy fast in some games, but so "slow" in others when compared to 5870. Crysis is a major dissapointment for me.

But let's see how the other reviews do. I hope that it will shine more in future heavy tesselated DX11 games.

I agree. I don't care a second for crysis though,
03-26-2010, 11:23 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by NaMcO

There's always a solution :rofl:

http://www.tech-caffe.com/gfx/powerfermi.jpg

i remember same pics done for 2900xt aka r600 but see how cool its now :ROTF: seriously fermi needs some serious revision with which it can turn into gold may be :shrug:
03-26-2010, 11:24 AM
96redformula

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Originally Posted by Gorguls

DX11 Tesslation is Next Gen.Fermi is the only real DX11 Card.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_car...mi/N174/22.png

We have already established Uningine is in NO WAY a good way to see real game experience. nVidia supposedly has the ability on Fermi to shift all its resources to tesselation, where as HD5870 has it as a set fixed resources. During real gaming Fermi wouldn't be able to run like that as it has to use its resources elsewhere.
03-26-2010, 11:25 AM
bananax

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Originally Posted by Gorguls

DX11 Tesslation is Next Gen.Fermi is the only real DX11 Card.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_car...mi/N174/22.png

holy mother of fanboy
btw fixed that picture :D
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1564/fermipsui.jpg
03-26-2010, 11:25 AM
Nightcover

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Originally Posted by 96redformula

We have already established Uningine is in NO WAY a good way to see real game experience. nVidia supposedly has the ability on Fermi to shift all its resources to tesselation, where as HD5870 has it as a set fixed resources. During real gaming Fermi wouldn't be able to run like that as it has to use its resources elsewhere.

You mean just like physx? give me a break.

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