I want to say upfront: Im NOT a fanboy, and dont wanna start a "X is better than Y" debate, but it seems to me that the majority of people with the 1X problem has ATI cards?
Or am i wrong? (it has happened before:) )
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I want to say upfront: Im NOT a fanboy, and dont wanna start a "X is better than Y" debate, but it seems to me that the majority of people with the 1X problem has ATI cards?
Or am i wrong? (it has happened before:) )
Yap i got a x1800xt.....lol although i did have a 7900gt and would have kept it if it didnt die like alot of them
well my second board died on me yesterday. i had been using it for 2 days. and it died the exact same way as the first board. i was running 401FSB @ 1,45Vmch and wondered if it could run it at 1,25Vmch. so i set 1,25Vmch and the board was dead- boots with no post and the radeon fan was at max. the first board died almost the same way. i was running 400FSB at 1,65V and lowered the MCH to 1,55Vmch and it died.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
the newer board did better with lower Vmch but it died as soon as I set the MCH too low.
whats the freaking problem with this god damn board. ive had enough waiting for the RMA replacement for 4 weeks. this is how it has gone:
p5b deluxe for 1 month
the board died
RMA and waiting 4 weeks
new p5b deluxe for 2 days
the board died
RMA and waiting maybe another 4 weeks
:mad:
wow holy cow :eek: they die off soo soon ? mate you sure the board is dead ? Tried reseting the battery ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by heikis
im sure. i had it unplugged, in clearcmos position and the battery off for night. nothing helped. I heard the old board, which died intentically, had dead PCI(-E?) slots. so guess this is also the same deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
this board is FUBAR.
did u try reseating the cpu......i read somwhere (i think in Tonys thread about the p5bdlx) that it helps sometimes when the mobo doesnt wanna boot
yes it does work sometimes I had to do that once to bring the board back from the soo called grave :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
heikis you must try this :fact:
already tried. the board is on its way to the reseller and from there to RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
i tried everything by discharging the capacitors, trying the x1900xt in the other slot, booting without the videocard, let the board rest unhooked of everything possible in the clearcmos position+battery out.
dead as dead can be. i wouldnt be mad, but the RMA process takes too damn long. im realllly fed up with my duron600 :D
i wonder that i haven't heard anybody else complaining about this issue. to me it feels every single board can be killed this way.
maybe the rev C2 is better, but im sure i get another C1 for replacement
Guys.... I had the ordeal of my life yesterday.
Everything was running fine..... when I decided to make my life a little tougher.
I wanted to see if my ORDEAL with 4:5 ratio would be somehow solved. So i tried setting 1.65Vnbvcore.
And thats it.
Board took a dip.
It didnt boot at all. CrashFree bios didnt revive my computer either.
Neither DID clearing cmos manually by removing battery and setting CLR_RTC jumper to 2-3 for over an hour.
Neither did resetting the CPU multiple times. It simply didnt want to boot.
How i solved it?
Pressed reset durning the initial Cold boot.... and it came up. I loaded defaults and flashed 0804 bios again.
I think when I experimented with 0903 bios I messed up the boot block of the bios and because of that it is not recovering from bad BIOS options like it should. And because I am not downgrading the bios, it is no longer writing the boot block anymore.
Any idea how i can override the boot block?
Also, one thing to note is, during the night when p5bdel was refusing to boot, i found that with every cold boot, it was doing that double reboot. I seriously think the bios on this motherboard is messed up.
Regards,
Karan
Maybe theres something wrong with ur other peripheral?? like vga, mem or maybe u cpu?? u should check it. it sounds too seriousQuote:
well my second board died on me yesterday. i had been using it for 2 days. and it died the exact same way as the first board. i was running 401FSB @ 1,45Vmch and wondered if it could run it at 1,25Vmch. so i set 1,25Vmch and the board was dead- boots with no post and the radeon fan was at max. the first board died almost the same way. i was running 400FSB at 1,65V and lowered the MCH to 1,55Vmch and it died.
the newer board did better with lower Vmch but it died as soon as I set the MCH too low.
whats the freaking problem with this god damn board. ive had enough waiting for the RMA replacement for 4 weeks. this is how it has gone:
p5b deluxe for 1 month
the board died
RMA and waiting 4 weeks
new p5b deluxe for 2 days
the board died
RMA and waiting maybe another 4 weeks
all the other components are fine because after receiving the second brandnew board it booted fine without any issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by tam2
or you think that my healthy components (videocard or RAM) kills the board after lowering the vMCH? i wouldnt believe it, because the ram and PSU work just fine.
ive got a couple of days to decide whether to get another p5b-deluxe or go with the badaxe2. im leaning towards badaxe2.
well, not all bad components act stange. I just think..... what?? 2 boards died almost the same way?? im not suggest u to put ur other components on a different board, but who knows..... risky thoQuote:
Originally Posted by heikis
BTW, i never set anything but auto with that vnb volts up to 460 fsb with mem @4-4-4-12. Why did u put so much volts?
Or maybe they gave u ur old board, just a thought :D
-tam2-
@AUTO you never know what voltage the board gets. and 1,25V is too much :D ? it's the minimum level you can give it. and the board died a the lowest level of vMCH. that's not normal. the board is running fine at higher vMCH but it dies at low vMCH. that is a bit weird :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by tam2
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
you can measure from the leg of any of the coils around the cpu...
ha ha you want another P5B after all that you have been through? :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by heikis
i would pick the badaxe2 over the p5b anyday :p:
kidoman
I was on the 0903 for a while before i went back to the 804 nothing happened here :toast:
you should flash back to the 711 ;)
You are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malk
I'm currently reading hardforum, anandtech, this, bleedinedge, and anywhere else I can find people talking about it.
Its not limited to, but certainly is much more common with ATI cards. Fact.
I'm almost certain it has to with an initialization / timeout issue with VGA. This could be due to regulators, speeds, buggy code, heat, etc etc etc. I suspect that the code in the northbridge is significantly different for cold and warm boots.
regarding the PCIE 1x problem:
for every reboot and BIOS change it goes to 1x, but if i shut it down and turn off the PSU. Wait for 5 seconds turn on everything, and it goes 16x.
Works every single time........ go figure...
BIOS 711. Haven't tried 8xx 9xx yet.
harpyboy: Not that simple. I can get it to happen with cold boot no problem. Its got to be your settings.
Likewise, I can get 16x after a warm boot, but only at certain settings.
For instance I can not warm boot at 500Mhz x Anything and get 16x. But I can cold boot to it no problem. on the other hand I almost always get 16x at 400Mhz warm or cold if PCIe is 96Mhz. Its rare that I get 1x in with that setup but it does happen now and then.
But I agree, best chance of 16x is after a cold boot.
ugh i hate that pci 1x issue. last time it took close to 40 mins of rebooting for it to revert to 16x. in the end i had to max out most voltages for it to stay stable at 16x. i can run stable orthos at 484, but had to back it down to 470 for the 16x setting to be somewhat stable. asus needs to fix this now.
speaking of issues, do you guys have issues with USB detection? my board takes FOREVER to detect USB sometimes. and sometimes they don't even show up. Maybe I got a dud board? my first board died within 20 mins for no apparent reason.
I don't any problems with detection/enumeration but I have noticed that there is sometimes a delayed device unplugged detection sound when the monitor (with usb hub) is shut off.
I have my mouse plugged into the monitor/hub so when its off the mouse if off too. I hear one unplugged sound right away but the other one sometimes takes awhile (30-60s ?)
Doesn't seem to effect anything.
I would just like to say....That I have an X800xt and an X1900XTX and have not ever had a 1x issue with any of the bios' ive tried....Currently I'm on 0903 with no problems at all....
Also I had 2 P5B's die on me both with different problems and now I'm on the third board...with no problems...
It seems to me that ASUS is THE PROBLEM....or at least thier fabs....
But for me it was a matter of returning the boards to the store I bought them at for Brand new replacements rather than going through ASUS' rediculous RMA process to get refurbished boards that probably have the same issue that the last board died from...
One more thing....
For those with this 1x problem....Try settinf your PEG LINK mode to Normal or Fast and see what happens..
SkI
The Audio driver 4580 Full for M2N32-SLI Deluxe works perfect on my P5B Deluxe.
(Download with firefox or at Asus.com)
Whoa buddy. Relax. No one is blaming ATI. This is of course an ASUS problem.
However, its more likely to occur with ATI cards (from the info I've collected).
You're not getting the 1x issue? Fantastic. What VCore/Vich/Vmch are you using? Whats the PCIe set to? How about memory timings, subtimings and voltage? I rarely have it at 400Mhz too. But its pretty common at 500Mhz with 5-5-5-5, on all but cold boots or all boots if PCIe is set over 96.
PEG Link is not the culprit, for the 100th time its a combination of settings. I'll try and put together some proof of this. But, its possible that under the right conditions setting PEG Link could fix it, although its tough to tell b/c sometimes a cold boot or adjusting voltage or speeds will also fix it.
Works perfectly like doesn't cause slow boot or laggy windows explorer ? Or works perfectly like makes sounds come from speakers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by neobremen
Yes :) it works same like this Update 4570 to 4580 but i think with DTS
So i mean perfect (fast boot) still testing,until now all fine