ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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11-09-2006, 11:16 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpsentity

In regards to the RAM problems over 365~ FSB, it's a tRD issue with SPD.

Loosen the tRD, no problems. It's too bad Asus does not include these subtimings in the bios.

Only some RAM exhibits this behavior, it depends on the programming of the SPD of the particular chip (Not IC's mind you).

That Thaiphoon SPD prog is interesting.. great way to thrash some ram if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing. ;)

Then i have some Questions for you:D

Which tRD-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL
11-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Quentin

anyone have tested bios 1601 ?
11-09-2006, 12:41 PM
neologan

late to the party but i only just got this board. Before this one i had a DFI 975X/G and in all this time i've never had a problem getting 800MHz 3-3-3-9 with 2.25V from my RAM on the DFI or two other AM2 boards.... until now.

At first i thought this was due to the agressive TRFC which lawrywild hinted to, but i've used MemSet and tried a high TRFC with no luck. I have no idea why i cannot get my 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Plat EL XTC to work at speeds that were fine on 3 other mainboards. On the 0503 bios.

If i disable SPD and set 5-5-5, no boot, 4-4-4, no boot, 3-3-3, DOES boot, but then once in widnows orthos fails with a TRFC set at 42, tried many. the p5E DH default is 15!

This is at stock btw, X6800, no overclocking, just trying to get 800MHz 3-3-3 stable. hyperthingie is disabled.

Anyone got any ideas as this is really starting to get on my nerves :(
11-09-2006, 01:06 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpsentity

In regards to the RAM problems over 365~ FSB, it's a tRD issue with SPD.

Loosen the tRD, no problems. It's too bad Asus does not include these subtimings in the bios.

Only some RAM exhibits this behavior, it depends on the programming of the SPD of the particular chip (Not IC's mind you).

That Thaiphoon SPD prog is interesting.. great way to thrash some ram if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing. ;)

it is 100% NOT tRD, it is caused by tRFC
11-09-2006, 01:40 PM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

it is 100% NOT tRD, it is caused by tRFC

Then maybe u can answer my Questions?

Which tRFC-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL
11-09-2006, 01:45 PM
neologan

This is as good as i can get with this board so far (with my memory i mean). if i try cas 3 orthos would fail within 5 seconds, doesn't matter what trfc i set either. next step is to try 2.3v to see if that sorts it.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9...iblemc2.th.gif
11-09-2006, 04:33 PM
brock01

im having trouble with my ram and here it is in memset
i notice that the tRFC is pretty high? does that cause instability
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8122/ramfx4.png
heres my ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227139
any help is Greatly Appreciated
thanks, brock01
11-10-2006, 04:14 AM
neologan

it's meant to be the opposite really, though so far i've found no real difference between high or low.

it's got to be some memory settings that are too aggressive, but the hell if i know which ones.
11-10-2006, 06:05 AM
Sparx

OT
I am not getting email alerts regarding posts on this Forum, anyone else?
sparx
11-10-2006, 07:49 AM
ccl2006

Guys,

Fyi, bios 1506 is out for the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe:http://support.asus.com/download/dow...%20DH%20Deluxe
11-10-2006, 08:00 AM
syne_24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccl2006

Guys,

Fyi, bios 1506 is out for the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe:http://support.asus.com/download/dow...%20DH%20Deluxe

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.
11-10-2006, 08:09 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock01

im having trouble with my ram and here it is in memset
i notice that the tRFC is pretty high? does that cause instability
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8122/ramfx4.png
heres my ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227139
any help is Greatly Appreciated
thanks, brock01

No, 42 is the ideal setting to have
11-10-2006, 08:11 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Then maybe u can answer my Questions?

Which tRFC-Setting is:
fastest?
slowest?
preferred to avoid the RAMproblem?

my Default is 6 - according to MemSet

Do i have to apply MemSet-settings everytime i boot or does MemSet save into BIOS?

iLL

I think your reading tRD, if tRFC is 6 then no wonder you're having problems :stick:
11-10-2006, 09:03 AM
neologan

1506 - Enhance memory compatibility

Perhaps this will allow me 3-3-3-9 because so far this board is really poor to have problems when 3 of my other boards all allow 3-3-3-9.
11-10-2006, 09:14 AM
SKiLL3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

I think your reading tRD, if tRFC is 6 then no wonder you're having problems :stick:

Ye, you're right i copoed my Post before and forgot to change Numbers.

SO my tRFC is 35. Will the Board keep the Setting when i apply 42 or will ihave to change it everytime i boot?

iLL
11-10-2006, 09:26 AM
neologan

hmmm if i save the settings in MemSet, will it save just the sub timings or the timings aswell?
11-10-2006, 10:54 AM
pancito

Any news on 1506 Bios
11-10-2006, 12:14 PM
irenic

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.

yeah.. i thought my bios is corrupt but then i read urs so i guess the problem came from my 8800gtx + p5w dh? ..
11-10-2006, 12:32 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiLL3D

Ye, you're right i copoed my Post before and forgot to change Numbers.

SO my tRFC is 35. Will the Board keep the Setting when i apply 42 or will ihave to change it everytime i boot?

iLL

It will reset 35 when you reboot, you can save your memset profile and put it into startup folder so it automatically loads those timings upon each boot
11-10-2006, 02:42 PM
ccl2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by syne_24

i heard that is even more crap, any truth to that?

On another note, anyone experience some kind of lag in the bios once installed a g80? It lags everytime I change one fsb, like it tries to refresh everytime, weird.

1506 is a crap? where did you hear that? I checked this http://hentges.net/tmp/BIOS/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/ and I don't see any 1506 bios at all. Please give us the links that the 1506 is crappy. Tia.
11-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Pol1977

I updated to 1506... So far it is the same for me as 1503. There is an extra memory setting for users running 64bit OSes, if I'm not mistaken. The SPD thing when OCing is still there :(
11-10-2006, 04:07 PM
coredump

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccl2006

1506 is a crap? where did you hear that? I checked this http://hentges.net/tmp/BIOS/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/ and I don't see any 1506 bios at all. Please give us the links that the 1506 is crappy. Tia.

hentges.net has been updated
11-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Orbitech

I see 1601 in the link.. Anyone tried it so we can see if they fixed the tRD issue?
Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:
11-10-2006, 09:03 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orbitech

I see 1601 in the link.. Anyone tried it so we can see if they fixed the tRD issue?
Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:

Speaking of Gigabyte, Asus and Gigabyte are joining forces and making motherboards and what not in a Joint venture.
11-11-2006, 10:31 AM
pee4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orbitech

Fvckin ASUS too many boards and zero support.. I knew I should have gone with Gigabyte.. Maybe I should swap it for one with 680...:stick:

If you hate Asus, you are going to REALLY hate Gigabyte. They completely suck... take a look at 8IRXP fiasco when we were duped by Tom's Hardware...

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