ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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11-20-2006, 10:32 AM
mascaras

yes , BOOT, rght now im with 400 FSB and 1.45vNB

so what voltages you guys think its better instead AUTO???

i only use to change voltages to benchmark , when i use high FSB like 470Mhz , i use 1.6v SB and 1.45vFSB , nothing else .

regards
11-20-2006, 11:04 AM
Jodiuh

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Originally Posted by Kallenator

The same happened to me, except one of the other mosfet close to that one burned up.

Already replaced, new one's running fine.

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Originally Posted by dinos22

that looks nasty

how did it happen

Oh you know, the usual...first run, stock settings, 5 minutes of Orthos and no mouse move. Then the uh-oh smell and I shut everything down. So far it looks like the only casualties are mobo (replaced) and RAM (working on it). The NB was incredibly hot tho. The new one has been replaced w/ a Jing Ting and it gets warm. :D About 1/8 inch clearance, hehe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_IMG_1457.jpg
11-20-2006, 11:33 AM
Dr_BenD_over

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Originally Posted by Kakulukia

Can people with no x1 issue post their bios settings:

SLi'd and single 6800GS(s) working at x16
PCI-E 110 (initally used 105, which worked fine for a while, then stopped)

Voltages, all auto except SB, which was set to 1.7 with 2 cards. Is now at auto with one card.
11-20-2006, 11:40 AM
Kakulukia

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Originally Posted by rastaseb

Can you try to put the vmch (vnb) at 1.55 and verify if your 7900 is still at X16!

For me at 1.45, all is ok but if i drop IncreasE????to 1.55->crash

Set to 1.55V, no sign of x1 ;) .
I think the first thing u should do is play with pcie freq, and then set VSB to 1.7V

I see that there are more ppl having this problem with an Ati card than a Nvidia card.........:confused:

If i had it, i would just send it RMA, how the hell are you supposed to play a game @x1, i really cant even amagine the very very low FPS.
11-20-2006, 11:44 AM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakulukia

Set to 1.55V, no sign of x1 ;) .
I think the first thing u should do is play with pcie freq, and then set VSB to 1.7V

I see that there are more ppl having this problem with an Ati card than a Nvidia card.........:confused:

If i had it, i would just send it RMA, how the hell are you supposed to play a game @x1, i really cant even amagine the very very low FPS.

Mine doesn't happen with up to 1.55v vmch. However it appears with 1.65v. Try it and report back.
Also try running with 4/5 mem divider and see if it reverts to 1x.
11-20-2006, 12:09 PM
Kakulukia

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

Mine doesn't happen with up to 1.55v vmch. However it appears with 1.65v. Try it and report back.
Also try running with 4/5 mem divider and see if it reverts to 1x.

Tested at 1.65V, still x16.

I confirm that it is NOT the Northbrdige voltage.
11-20-2006, 12:20 PM
hot_fifty

hmm try to reboot about this setting.. I have 16x if I correct and save bios everytime a reboot/start up, if I reboot and not go into bios, then 1x appears
11-20-2006, 12:25 PM
rastaseb

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Originally Posted by Kakulukia

Tested at 1.65V, still x16.

I confirm that it is NOT the Northbrdige voltage.

what's the revision of your chips on cpu-z? C1 or C2?
11-20-2006, 12:28 PM
Kakulukia

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Originally Posted by rastaseb

what's the revision of your chips on cpu-z? C1 or C2?

The old p5b-d's, rev C1.
11-20-2006, 12:30 PM
metalazzo

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Originally Posted by rastaseb

what's the revision of your chips on cpu-z? C1 or C2?

on deluxe, it's C1
maybe on the newest deluxe mb is there C2 rev...
11-20-2006, 12:45 PM
rastaseb

yé Metal, nice to see you there!

i will never understand the behaviour of this P5B... i tryed again at 400*9 withe 1.55 vmch and each times it was at X16 :(
11-20-2006, 01:55 PM
metalazzo

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Originally Posted by rastaseb

yé Metal, nice to see you there!

i will never understand the behaviour of this P5B... i tryed again at 400*9 withe 1.55 vmch and each times it was at X16 :(

:)
mine never worked at 16X, whatever the FSB, voltages, pcie freq :slap:
I need to RMA it, when I have time
I'm back on my opty, sux to run pi :stick:
11-20-2006, 02:26 PM
rastaseb

Nforce 680 will be the next one...for me
11-20-2006, 03:36 PM
»X$«êdên

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaseb

yé Metal, nice to see you there!

i will never understand the behaviour of this P5B... i tryed again at 400*9 withe 1.55 vmch and each times it was at X16 :(

When I try 400x9 my monitor will turn off/on/off & not Show that it is in windows.

Tried a few monitors like viewsonic, sylvania, compaq. It's like it isn't getting enough power or something ?? Using an x1900xtx, psu ocz700.

Idk what the heck it is!:zombie: :zombie: Sledgehammer is looking pretty nice about now.
11-20-2006, 03:42 PM
este

Geez,

I've already tried to explain that the 1X issue is NOT a single setting. Its a combination of PCIe, Vmch, VCore and FSB. If I screw with any of these enough I can get it to happen.

If you are having issues with 1x try one or both of these:

-Set PCIe down to 96Mhz (I know I know, just try it)
-Raise VCore higher then you think is required for you oc

See if that works for anyone. You don't need to RMA the board, its not (technically) broken, just has a bug when overclocking. But its fixable.

Mine is steady on 16x now except for rare occasions where I screw up some oc settings. 400x8 and 4-4-3-4 or 500x7 and 5-5-5-5 both 96Mhz PCIe, Mch 1.6V, etc etc etc

But... If set PCIe above 100 I get issues with cold boots and 1X, without changing other settings. I've gotten 16x at 110Mhz but I need to mess with other stuff.

EDIT: Oh, also try cold and warm boots. Last night I messed with something then changed it back to where I KNOW 16x worked, but it kept coming up 1x. So I cold-booted, no setting change, worked fine.
11-20-2006, 03:44 PM
este

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Originally Posted by endemiceden

When I try 400x9 my monitor will turn off/on/off & not Show that it is in windows.

Tried a few monitors like viewsonic, sylvania, compaq. It's like it isn't getting enough power or something ?? Using an x1900xtx, psu ocz700.

Idk what the heck it is!:zombie: :zombie: Sledgehammer is looking pretty nice about now.

I have a 1900XT and have had that happen when PCIe was too high.

I am starting to believe that the 1900 series (and others) have issues with no being ready by the time the system is ready for it at boot.

I haven't had that or cold boot problems since, well just see my post above this.
11-20-2006, 03:48 PM
Millyons

well like i said, when i turn down the pc, hit the psu switch and then the power switch few times it always boots at 16x, when i just shut down, reset or change a bios setting it always boots at 1x........another thing i was trying today, i leaving the system off for like 10sec after powering down (just a shut down not tuching the psu) and two or three times that i tried it it booted at 16x, so that might also be a possible work around
11-20-2006, 04:38 PM
hot_fifty

Quote:

Originally Posted by este

Geez,

I've already tried to explain that the 1X issue is NOT a single setting. Its a combination of PCIe, Vmch, VCore and FSB. If I screw with any of these enough I can get it to happen.

If you are having issues with 1x try one or both of these:

-Set PCIe down to 96Mhz (I know I know, just try it)
-Raise VCore higher then you think is required for you oc

See if that works for anyone. You don't need to RMA the board, its not (technically) broken, just has a bug when overclocking. But its fixable.

Mine is steady on 16x now except for rare occasions where I screw up some oc settings. 400x8 and 4-4-3-4 or 500x7 and 5-5-5-5 both 96Mhz PCIe, Mch 1.6V, etc etc etc

But... If set PCIe above 100 I get issues with cold boots and 1X, without changing other settings. I've gotten 16x at 110Mhz but I need to mess with other stuff.

EDIT: Oh, also try cold and warm boots. Last night I messed with something then changed it back to where I KNOW 16x worked, but it kept coming up 1x. So I cold-booted, no setting change, worked fine.

set pci to 96 and high vcore didnt help.. after saving bios, the MB beep beep bepp, and then rebooter itself and then it booted but with 1x:(
11-20-2006, 04:44 PM
este

If I get 1 long and 3 short beeps its over. Might as well not let it boot to windows.

Leave those settings and turn the psu off. Wait approx 15s (this is VERY important for my setup) and then turn back on, wait 5s and then power up.

See what happens then
11-20-2006, 04:51 PM
hot_fifty

hate it, if I have to power down PSU and that stuff, just to get the damn 16x back.. OMG
11-20-2006, 05:31 PM
hot_fifty

it helps now 16x, but dono if it stays that way.. brb
11-20-2006, 07:10 PM
kwalker

It doesn’t matter what I do anymore.
Always 16X after I reverted to 0614 and flashed 0804.
Strange demon we have lurking about this motherboard.
It doesn’t need new bios.
It needs a priest
:sick:
11-21-2006, 01:33 AM
china

Quote:

Originally Posted by este

I am starting to believe that the 1900 series (and others) have issues with no being ready by the time the system is ready for it at boot.

I think that you might be onto something with this. I have a X800XT and occasionally when the computer boots I can see from the harddisk led that it is booting into Windows. But I get no monitor signal.

Also, I sometimes get the pc-speaker warning signal indicating problems with the video (three short, one long). After that it's always 1x.

Strange mobo. ;)
11-21-2006, 01:35 AM
china

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Originally Posted by Millyons

well like i said, when i turn down the pc, hit the psu switch and then the power switch few times it always boots at 16x, when i just shut down, reset or change a bios setting it always boots at 1x.......

Same thing with mine. I think we have pretty much nailed down the symptoms of this case, now we just need a proper workaround from Asus. I'm not going to cold boot this thing twice every time I change something from BIOS or just need to boot because of some driver or update.
11-21-2006, 01:51 AM
Millyons

LOL i gave up on reseting the board almost when i got it, i just couldnt stand what it was doing with the hdds so i always power down with it....kinda funny before the Ultra-D I never unpuged the psu when changing things, now thats normal, now i dont reset with this one, lol whats next

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