The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

Regarding Crysis (comparing a XFX 5870 and GTX285 which I both have). Both tested on clean installs of Windows 7 64 (reinstalled for each test) with nothing installed except the latest video drivers, i7 @ 3.8ghz, intel x25-e hard drive. The test atm favors ATI since right now their cards run the fastest on Windows 7.

The median low framerate is significantly improved. On levels where the 285 starts jittering (down to 17-18fps), the 5870 remains steady (26+ fps). On average it's probably 40% faster than the 285 with Crysis (I'm approximating because the SSC is about 8%+ faster than stock 285).

However, the "maximum" (if there is such a thing) minimum framerates are significantly worse on the HD5870 than on the GTX285. In several points during GPU_bench and during cutscenes, transition scenes, and new levels, the HD5870 "hard locks" for as long as half a second (sometimes repeatedly over time) whereas the GTX285 does not have these problems. So while most of the playing experience has gotten better with the HD5870, there are some pretty glaring gameplay problems right now.

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

THE MOST POWERFUL CARD ON EARTH!

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and already listed for pre-order in europe:
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U propably just copyd these images out of the tweakers.net forums?
In any case the last image with the price @ Salland is an image Salland put up in january!! So this is far from actual. Besides that, the original link where the other pictures come from, state that the HD5870 will be launched for a sub 500$ price :up:

Measuring on screen tells me 5870X2 is approx 28,7 cm or 11.3 inches.

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Originally Posted by i found nemo

for 2.5-4 months :p

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25 -4 ? nvidia didn't even release there single gpu card so u r telling me that it will be faster than 5870x2 lol don'T get your expectations too high u might be dissapointed

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Originally Posted by Gaul

@ oc nub = request VANTAGE score...

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I can help ...

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Originally Posted by astrallite

Regarding Crysis (comparing a XFX 5870 and GTX285 which I both have). Both tested on clean installs of Windows 7 64 (reinstalled for each test) with nothing installed except the latest video drivers, i7 @ 3.8ghz, intel x25-e hard drive. The test atm favors ATI since right now their cards run the fastest on Windows 7.

The median low framerate is significantly improved. On levels where the 285 starts jittering (down to 17-18fps), the 5870 remains steady (26+ fps). On average it's probably 40% faster than the 285 with Crysis (I'm approximating because the SSC is about 8%+ faster than stock 285).

However, the "maximum" (if there is such a thing) minimum framerates are significantly worse on the HD5870 than on the GTX285. In several points during GPU_bench and during cutscenes, transition scenes, and new levels, the HD5870 "hard locks" for as long as half a second (sometimes repeatedly over time) whereas the GTX285 does not have these problems. So while most of the playing experience has gotten better with the HD5870, there are some pretty glaring gameplay problems right now.

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I don't have that problem on my system!
FPS never go lover than 25. :)

Crysis 1920x1200 VH DX10 64bit noAA
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9324/...vh19201200.png
PROOF

Something is wrong with your system (or drivers). My run was on 8.66RC6 and I know that drivers on CD supplied with cards is older!

More results from me
Crysis 1920x1200 H DX10 64bit noAA
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3848/...h19201200q.png

Crysis Warhead
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/281...th19201200.png


For another test I've decided to throw first DX10 game - COJ :D
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/692...01200msaa4.png
CPU @3750 (forgot to change to faster, but for that test it doesn't matter really).

PT Boats 1920x1200 high noAA
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/963...00highnoaa.jpg
Very nice improvement ...:D

so how is the cards overclock

some kid on new egg claims 900mhz core on the xfx card

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Originally Posted by billdavis

so how is the cards overclock

some kid on new egg claims 900mhz core on the xfx card

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That's max via CCC and it's easy!
I will try AMD GPU Tool to get more out of card after work ...

But I'm still waiting for someone to post ASUS TOP BIOS for HD5870 :)

Why is everyone waiting for this ASUS bios ? What's so special about it ?

I would love to see how the 5850's overclock compared to their big brother 5870 .
only 5850 will fit in my case ...

Nothing special.

No one need the asus bios...

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Originally Posted by CrimInalA

Why is everyone waiting for this ASUS bios ? What's so special about it ?

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If I am right, after you load the Asus bios then you can use the Voltage Tweak Technology, it allows users to increase a card's GPU voltage, leading to a boost in GPU and memory frequencies.

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Originally Posted by dctokyo

If I am right, after you load the Asus bios then you can use the Voltage Tweak Technology, controlled by ASUS' own SmartDoctor software, it allows users to increase a card's GPU voltage, leading to a boost in GPU and memory frequencies.

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O i see !
Just so voltage modifications are possible already , without waiting for rivatuner/atitool/etc to support the new 58xx series .

Can't wait to see some overclocks for both cards :up:

YES.....this what i want.....ALLOW me to compare with 4890 :p: , with similiar setting.......

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Originally Posted by Lightman

Crysis Warhead
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/281...th19201200.png

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4890 DEF

http://i38.tinypic.com/1585s37.jpg

4890 OC @ 950/1150

http://i37.tinypic.com/2r2xev7.jpg

Does anyone know if/when there is an ETA on 2GB versions of the 5870? I've seen mention to it in some of the pre-release info, but not a whole lot. Thx

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Originally Posted by Ketzer7

Does anyone know if/when there is an ETA on 2GB versions of the 5870? I've seen mention to it in some of the pre-release info, but not a whole lot. Thx

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I've been reading from other people here on the forums that they're supposed to be released in Oct. However, they haven't mentioned anything more specific than that. I think I'm holding out for the 2GB version as well, but my impatience is getting the best of me.

I need some clarification here....

So is their two versions of these cards in terms of "Eyefinity"?

I've seen one card with two DVIs along with other outputs and have seen another with six mini ports.

I plan on running 3-24" LCDs and maybe add a 46" flat-screen, just want to know which one to get.


TY;)

http://s60.radikal.ru/i167/0909/2d/2156595b1db6t.jpg Was it posted?

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Originally Posted by Lightman

I don't have that problem on my system!
FPS never go lover than 25. :)

Crysis 1920x1200 VH DX10 64bit noAA
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9324/...vh19201200.png
PROOF

Something is wrong with your system (or drivers). My run was on 8.66RC6 and I know that drivers on CD supplied with cards is older!

More results from me
Crysis 1920x1200 H DX10 64bit noAA
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3848/...h19201200q.png

Crysis Warhead
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/281...th19201200.png


For another test I've decided to throw first DX10 game - COJ :D
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/692...01200msaa4.png
CPU @3750 (forgot to change to faster, but for that test it doesn't matter really).

PT Boats 1920x1200 high noAA
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/963...00highnoaa.jpg
Very nice improvement ...:D

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Men your resultas in crysis are too low...

The problem is the drivers beta, right??

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Originally Posted by Lightman

That's max via CCC and it's easy!
I will try AMD GPU Tool to get more out of card after work ...

But I'm still waiting for someone to post ASUS TOP BIOS for HD5870 :)

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I just sent in my Asus HD5870 bios to http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/ . Just gotta wait for them to verify, then post it, and you can voltage tweak to your heart's content.

http://i35.tinypic.com/15cd0u0.jpg

Nice:D
I'd like to know, if the game doesn't support multigpu, will the two gpus of the card still be engaged, or only one will be used? (talking about the 5870 x2)

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Originally Posted by gurneyhck

U propably just copyd these images out of the tweakers.net forums?
In any case the last image with the price @ Salland is an image Salland put up in january!! So this is far from actual. Besides that, the original link where the other pictures come from, state that the HD5870 will be launched for a sub 500$ price :up:

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Finally with this POWER, you can go back and play all those games that your old PCs couldn't. NFS (original). Whiplash. Stunts. GLQuake. Unreal. Team Fortress. Tribes. Battlezone. Mech Warriro. X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter. Day of the Tentacle...

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Originally Posted by lithpiperpilot

I just sent in my Asus HD5870 bios to http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/ . Just gotta wait for them to verify, then post it, and you can voltage tweak to your heart's content.

http://i35.tinypic.com/15cd0u0.jpg

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THANK YOU! :yepp::up:

I bit the bullet on a XFX 5870. I want to avoid CF / SLI with this system this time around for a few reasons if at all possible. I am going to wait to see what the GTX 380 is like and unless it is significantly better on average and has a similar noise / power profile, I'll just stick with the ATI. They are still waiting on stock so who knows how long it will take to get here ( I'm guessing late next week or early the next ) but I'm willing to take requests on any reasonable amount of testing if there is something from a review that hasn't satisfied anyone. My i7 is limited to 3.2 until I receive my Noctua 1336 adapter but it should still be enough for most testing.

Personally I am most interested to see firsthand how it compares with the 4870x2 in terms of noise and the "feel" of games. I've been using a dual GPU card / SLI for some time now so I'll be curious if I notice any difference as far as performance consistency ( something that is never mentioned in reviews for better or for worse )

just made all 5870 bioses that were submitted so far public

RBE doesnt load asus 5870 bios right. No worky