Well I dunno what to say to the last two posts about my temps cause they are what they are and I don't have any ideas on how to lower them. As for putting the Zalman on the XT I don't think it would be up to the job imo.
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Well I dunno what to say to the last two posts about my temps cause they are what they are and I don't have any ideas on how to lower them. As for putting the Zalman on the XT I don't think it would be up to the job imo.
have you used your hand to check heat and air is being exhaused out of the pci slot grill ?
Managed to squeeze out a tiny 5 extra pts hehe
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...0_11012_tn.jpg
Ya I checked. I was actually quite surprised to see just how much air was actually pushed out of the back of this thing. You can feel it from a good few inches back from the case and yea it was quite warm to the touch.
Thanks for your continued interest and concern on this matter however. With your card doing so well you could just be ignoring my posts as tough luck but you aren't. What are your thoughts on changing the stock paste to ceramique?
Yeah on 100% fan speed it exhausts ALOT of air out!
Strange is i've been frequently several forums' ATI sections and folks with BBATI brand of X1800XT seem to get higher temps... unless on those forums you're the same poster that is ? :)
80C some folks say is normal - it probably is but you're not going to get much oc out of it or even comtemplate adding voltage to it in that form.. so yeah i'd tried ceramique first use Artic clean solution to properly clean off the GPU stuff
i used Artic clean on my DFI NF4 chipset heatsink and that yellow TIM came off in piece with one swipe of my custom cut sized plastic credit card like scraper hehe
oh when you take heatsink off for first time, take some close up high res photos of the TIM on the GPU core so we can compare with others later...
who knows i might try water cooling my X1800XT (first time H20 for video cards heh)
Thanks for the info and response Eva2000. To be honest I frequent no other forums except this and amdmb.com however there I only lurk and browse and very rarely post. I have heard nothing about BBATI users getting higher temps though that could be a possibility. Would you mind cutting and pasting me some links to other forum posts you have read which people are talking about their BBATI cards hitting into the 80c mark and being normal? I would like to see with my own eyes what others are saying. In the meantime I am going to browse around and see what I can find.
As well My card is overclocked to CCC max of 682/792 to get those temps so it's not like I'm at stock. There is still so much I hope for this card such as a bios editor or a different bios from another manufacturer altogether to flash and try out.
I wonder if bioses could be different? Do me a favour? Check and see the date of your bios build? CCC information tab will tell you. I want to see if it the same as mine as I know what build date my bios is.
I will try ceramique soon to see if it changes anything. I will surely take some close up pics to share here.
Thanks again and if you have anything else to share please do as I appreciate your time and input in this matter.
nunyabiz http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33834456
and post #6 and #8
Addle http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y have to read further into thread where he asks if >80C temps are normal
bunch of folks at http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...=x1800xt+temps
X1800XT 76C load here http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...=x1800xt+temps
Thanks bud!
no probs hope you find out the reason for high GPU temps!
I have read those threads and no one gives a reason at all. They simply state their temps and everyone else takes note and leaves it at that.
All I can think of is bios differences if any though I doubt that. Perhaps you missed it a few posts back about my request for you to check your bios build date. Would you mind doing so? The information tab in CCC as well as Everest if you have it installed will tell you the date of the bios of your card. If you could take a couple minutes to look into this and post your findings here I would appreciate it. I have my bios build date so want to compare it to yours and see. Either the bios works the card differently to generate more heat or the bios reads the sensor wrong possibly and posts higher temps than other manufacturers. Since we are using the same drivers the only difference has to be in the physical card itself. If you are in 30c ambient temps I find it very hard that you get late 60's full load unless something really is up but who knows. I am not questioning you or calling you a liar by any means just quite surprised and perplexed to be honest.
ATI has always ran higher for some reason...BBATI I should say...
Even back when the 9800XT where out..I have an ASUS and my buddy had a BBATI and his ran about 20C higher than mine did for some reason. And when I had added my Silencer on it, ut really dropped alot more then too.
heh thought you could see in first post of this thread CCC panels are already posted http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...51&postcount=1 ;)
again
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._hardware1.jpg
Here is mine as well...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ns/ati-ccc.jpg
I like how it says Built By ATI in the Manu section of it...
yeah mine says same even though it's HIS hehe
guess no difference in bios maybe something physical then ? or just different GPU cores have different temps like different AMD64 cores produce different temps ?
oops sorry bud, I must have missed that. My Bios date is also 10/18/05 so there goes that theory. Oh well, weird how it was mentioned that the 9800XT ran hotter back in the day when built by ATI over other manufacturers.
Maybe your case is a lot more cramped, and has less airflow?
Mine is getting hot, over 80C. The stock fan/sink combo is good, but it's just to loud.
Well I also have my room very cold at time when I was pushing the core clocks. So that did help a lot. Like right now idle with normal room temps my GPU is at 54C.
changed to the drivers on the HIS CD-ROM which are cat 5.11 6.14.10.6575 WHQL FM Approved versus cat 5.11 on ATI.com web site which are 6.14.10.6583 WHQL not FM approved and clocked a tad higher
512MB HIS X1800XT stock heatsink air
@756/900 = 11,049
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1530346
(currently equal 7th ranked on ORB for X1800 series OR #2 ranked for WHQL - FM approved drivers :D )
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...0_11049_tn.jpg
yea my case does have a lot in it but it is half decently organized, at least as good as it will be for the amount of stuff I have in it. My idle temps are usually 55-58c too. I know of a few people including Hicks now that get into the 80's on full load so I am not going to worry about it anymore. I bought a top of the line card hoping it will last. IF it doesn't well I have 1 year warranty with ATI for this very matter, if I don't go R580 before next fall. Even at 80c the card runs beautifully. Never a crash, lockup, vpu recover nothing. Artifact free as well. Played COD2 for at least 2 hours straight this morning without an issue and that game has a lot going on too. Checking my temp monitor log of ATITool temps were never higher than 79c with fan at 45-50%.
HIS has a 3-Year Warranty correct?
BBATI used to have 3 years yet I just found out this past summer that they bumped it down to one. Not cool.
not sure in OZ warranty is done differently we don't deal with the manufacturer for the initial 1yr of warranty but with the retailer we purchased fromQuote:
Originally Posted by ugp
so if video card had 2yr warranty, 1st yr with retailer 2nd yr with local disty/supplier (never with the actual manufacturer)
problem is most retailers in OZ only list their 1yr RTB warranty
some like BFG have 3yr RTB and rest with local disty
HIS i've only seen the 1yr RTB listed with retailers... not sure if it has 2 or 3yr
Well whats nice is when NewEgg runs out of these and something goes wrong with it they give me current value or a substitue for the card. They did that when I did a RMA on my ASUS 9800XT...they replaced it with a Gigabyte x800Pro which I was very happy with because that card clocked well.
Well in my testing I switched the to WarCat v5.11XT drivers to see what they would do for me...
This is what I managed with them.
CPU/Mem @ 250x11.0 200FSB @ 2-2-2-5-2T
x1800XT @ 690/800
3DMark05: 9,237 (With WarCats v5.11XT)
3DMark05: 9,265 (With ATI v5.11)
It's not very cold outside right now or I would set to my max overclocks. Right now the core is at 76 Full Load at 690 on the core. It will have to wait for another day I guess on that.
So as for that there is no help there it seems. Time to test a few other Apps and see what I get I guess.
For a CPU @ 2.2 and the Memory on a 2T Timing mode.. is 28,916 a good score in 3DMark01SE?
Hey guys thanks for the info in this thread. It has really helped me get my x1800xt going. It does not seem that there is a consensus on how high you can go with voltage. What would you guys say is a safe every day for overclocking?
hey FUGGER... :)
Managed to get #2 ranking on ORB for FM approved drivers in both 3dmark05 and 3dmark2003 for X1800 series categories :cool:
Opteron 146 @3130mhz
HIS X1800XT stock heatsink air @756/900
3dmark05 = 11,049
3dmark2003 = 20,860
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...5_11049_tn.jpg http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...3_20860_tn.jpg