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Your suggestion may be valid, but (in my opinion) that is completely unnecessary unless you are among the most die hard benchmarkers or if you just like a fresh install/ A new cpu, even a dual, is one of the easiest things to install without a fresh windows update. maybe a bios flash though to support it and reload the amd64 drivers to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by terror_adagio
You're right it is unecessary to re-install windows. But you will need to repair your install with the boot disk. And yes the install of an x2 is relatively easy, the problkem is with the uninstall ;) Read here:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...736#post900736
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Thanks for the tips. Why would you even need to do a repair though. I can switch MB's out even without a repair unless there is a chipset change?
Also, what do you mean "reconfigure" exactly?
"the only way around it seems to be a reconfigure or reinstall"
Do the X2's are finally available?
Let's say I have a VapoLS, do I need to mod the evap?
Hehe,Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
You're right...THe last few days I've made a couple of posts without thinking about what I was writing :rolleyes: You shouldn't need to do anything whien swapping TO the x2 cpu's. BUT if you decide to swap back to a single-core cpu, you'll have to repair your windows install because for some reason the OS won't allow you to switch back to "ACPI Uni-Processor PC" through the device manager. Now I didn't try using the AMD cpu drivers so they possibly could have fixed this issue, but just thought I'd toss a warning out there so nobody else freaks out like me since my FX55BN was running close to positive temperatures on default Vcore with my Mach2. :p:
I did that with a s754 board. But only until I had the time a week later.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I've been running a San Diego with ACPI set to Multi-Processor. I wonder if thats why I have the hardest time keeping those mosfets cool? The CPU is running 2.8Ghz 1.7v (BIOS) and never breaks 40C (water).Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Eric
cool. When you switch from uni processor to dual proessor in device manager, what happens? Does it call for any winxp cd or driver or just reboot and all is good?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Mwave has 4800+ retails in stock now.
newegg has 4800+ OEM's but at a higher price than Mwave's retails.
Running a multi-processor kernel vs. a single-processor kernel will not affect your CPU temps in itself. The key difference between the kernels is that the multi-processor kernel contains additional code to synchronize access to shared kernal data (since you may have two or more processor threads running concurrently).
Consequently, running a multi-processor kernel on a single-processor system is *slightly* slower (i.e., less efficient) than running a single-processor kernel that does not contain extra synchronization code you don't need. However, the extra overhead of an MP kernel is very small when compared to total CPU power; any affect on the temperature is negligible.
In the example cited, it is far more likely that the new single-core CPU that the user installed simply runs hotter than the dual-core it replaced. For example, my 3500+ Clawhammer (130 nm) CPU overclocked to 2.4GHz ran at 58C under full load. My new dual-core X2 4400+, however, runs at 48C under load overclocked at 2.4GHz. The temperature difference has nothing to do with which kernel I am running -- Athlon 130 nm chips simply run hotter than 90 nm chips.
Let me be the first to welcome you to XS! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dbeachy1
And let me be the first to tell you you're wrong :p:
Running multi-proc on a single-proc system is also known as the "RICKY TWEAK" If you're familiar with 3dMark, you'll know what that is. If you're running a a multiproc kernal on a single proc system, your cpu will rarely every be in idle. It basically will be trying to do a multi-proc/core workload on a single core.
So @ EWITTE that will be a prob in terms of your OC. I promise you'll get much more stability if you switch it to single proc.....
BTW, when I ran my cpu while it was using the muti-proc driver, my cpu was runnin~+7C @ 3190 with 1.6Vcore. After installing the uniproc driver, here's what it did: At -8C
http://img54.echo.cx/img54/1518/10x320spi1m3dw.jpg
Oh, BTW, this is the x2 which I switched from:
http://img87.echo.cx/img87/1917/11x288sandracpu8gl.jpg
This is exactly what the "ricky tweak" is. How come people can get more in 2k1/etc with the multi processor kernel?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbeachy1
Doesn't really matter since my X2 will be here tomorrow :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
amd x2 driver page - updated may 2005
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html
You're not even curious how much of a difference it'll make while your cpu is still installed? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
Not if I have to reinstall/repair tonight ;) Thats something I'm not doing until this weekend with the X2.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Read above, you're not gonna have to do that repair whien you're installing the x2. YOu'd only have to do it when you go back to a single core.... :p: That's why I suggest you try now because then you won't have to re-install your cpu + your OS later if you get curious....Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
Switching to "single processor..." is not the same thing as switching from X2 to a 3700+? From your statement I thought just changing to the single processor kernel from the dual processor kernel required the repair.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Eric
It DOES (although I'm not sure what happens when you're actually switching only the drivers and not the cpu's as well). I'm just saying that if you're curious about your SD, then do the repair now while the cpu's still installed. Then when you get your x2, plug her in and never look back ;) If you do it that way, then you'll save yourself from swapping out cpu's later....Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
anyone removed the IHS on a X2 yet?
4200+ retail in stock $550
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/446...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
My 4800+ retail box shipped today for thursday delivery. looks like thur and fri will be busy rebuilding days. Hope it's worth it.
GL with it....keep us posted...Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
It let me just change back. Same temps and OC. Actually the OC is a little lower. But thats possibly because the PC has been idle the last 1-2 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Eric