AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look

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03-11-2005, 09:58 AM
Mikael

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Originally Posted by thomasxstewart

:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

It might just be that english isn't my first language, but that post was damn confusing...
03-11-2005, 10:05 AM
jikdoc

i'm a physician, but i'm not as weird as thomasxstewart. while i was reading that post, a few bars of the 'twilight zone' jingle kept repeating in my head. please keep posting, i'm intrigued.

back on topic, i think the major thing everyone on this site is interested in with the fx57 is it's compatibility with subzero cooling. if the price on these chips weren't so outrageously high, i'd take a chance to test one out.
03-11-2005, 11:14 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by Mikael

It might just be that english isn't my first language, but that post was damn confusing...

At least i'm not the only one :D
03-11-2005, 10:30 PM
sabrewulf165

So has AMD just given up on the whole "939 A64's will be 512k parts" philosophy?

When (if at all?) will we see cheaper 2.6ghz / 512k parts?
03-11-2005, 11:31 PM
blueworm

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Originally Posted by sabrewulf165

So has AMD just given up on the whole "939 A64's will be 512k parts" philosophy?

When (if at all?) will we see cheaper 2.6ghz / 512k parts?

I dont think we will see these pieces until 2600mhz becomes "mid-range" which is not going to be before the shrink to 65nm. Just speculation!
AMD's road map seems to fall of the face of the earth after 2005. Could this mean the end of the world? :stick:
03-11-2005, 11:47 PM
sabrewulf165

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueworm

I dont think we will see these pieces until 2600mhz becomes "mid-range" which is not going to be before the shrink to 65nm. Just speculation!
AMD's road map seems to fall of the face of the earth after 2005. Could this mean the end of the world? :stick:

As long as I can get my hands on a cheap Venice and they OC like I've heard they can, I don't really care :D
03-12-2005, 02:49 AM
Ferry82

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Originally Posted by sabrewulf165

As long as I can get my hands on a cheap Venice and they OC like I've heard they can, I don't really care :D

Nobody has a venice sofar i have seen so you cant now how the oc?
03-12-2005, 05:53 AM
sabrewulf165

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Originally Posted by Ferry82

Nobody has a venice sofar i have seen so you cant now how the oc?

I don't know, I'm just going off of hearsay and rumors.
03-13-2005, 05:25 AM
Tim

I just heard from my supplier that I will get an FX55 on tuesday (while there are 50 in backorder) How can this be?

:confused:
03-13-2005, 03:03 PM
Geforce4ti4200

well amd's roadmap shows Venice going to at least 2.8GHz so its natural we can assume those to overclock to at least that with subsquent batches only improving from there and hitting over 3GHz. as for that fx55, it may be 130nm, avoid it, get a fx57 shortly!
03-13-2005, 03:40 PM
terrace215

What tells you that this is a Rev E A64 4200+, as opposed to a Rev E FX-55?

Did AMD indicate this was a sample for the former?

They have the same characteristics, other than overclocking locking.

I ask because a 4200+ part implies an FX-57 part at the same time,(to keep up the FX "fastest part" reputation) but if this is just the 90nm Rev E FX-55, there is no such implication.
03-13-2005, 09:52 PM
OC Detective

Terrace, the cpuid value for the Rev E San Diegos is finalised at 20F71 this ES is 20F70 so I guess it could be either as it is clearly an early sampling.
03-14-2005, 02:44 AM
Arseface

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Originally Posted by thomasxstewart

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lol - words...

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Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

Well - the arrogance is strong with this one.

edit - you would think, being a doctor, that you might be able to correctly spell 'medicine'. Once, and I'd take it as a typo - but twice? :confused:
03-14-2005, 02:48 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasxstewart

:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

:confused: :confused: :confused:
03-14-2005, 05:04 AM
Nv11

low votle
03-14-2005, 10:04 AM
terrace215

Yeah, the CPUID isn't going to help here, as really, there is NO DIFFERENCE (but for overclocking locked/unlocked) between the 4000+ and the FX-53, the 4200+ and the FX-55, and the 4400+ and the FX-57.

They are the same parts.

So the question is, did the sample come with any documentation that suggested how AMD was going to label it?

If they are sampling it as a 4200+, it implies they have an FX-57 about to launch with it.

If they are sampling is as the Rev E 90nm FX-55, it doesn't imply that.

We've been assuming it is the 4200+. I was hoping there was some basis for that assumption, and that sxs might comment.
03-14-2005, 06:17 PM
andyhuang0308

it is a revE K8-939 CPU (F13140 D43NK00) .....that's all I can tell....
03-16-2005, 04:39 AM
Dexter

I need a bigger wallet
03-16-2005, 04:41 AM
MrQ3W

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Originally Posted by Dexter

I need a bigger wallet

Don't we all? ;)
03-16-2005, 06:41 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

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Originally Posted by Super strokey

i have 2 cats... does that count?

:D lol :D
03-29-2005, 03:12 PM
computerpro3

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasxstewart

:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

Obviously your M.D. isn't anything remotley relating to the English language
03-29-2005, 03:56 PM
saaya

the 4200+ and fx57 will be san diego rev E4 and i think they will be released around april 15th, sorry if this is not news, but the last posts of this thread look like you didnt know it was a san diego rev E4. :D
03-29-2005, 04:14 PM
computerpro3

thnk the 4200 will hit 3.2 under a mach1 or should I go for the fx-57?
03-29-2005, 04:43 PM
saaya

"hit" meaning max screenshot speed? the 3800+ venice already did 3.5ghz on a mach2 gt for a screenshot :D
03-30-2005, 07:01 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

"hit" meaning max screenshot speed? the 3800+ venice already did 3.5ghz on a mach2 gt for a screenshot :D

:confused: Where ??? :toast:

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