What No23 air cooled with your 3700+? Or are we talking about the FX - something that I did not even mention? Yet you bring up Opps 3700 - hmm was that air cooled - er no! Try and focus on what I am discussing here - that is general cooled 3800 v general cooled 3700 or is that too difficult for someone like yourself. You seem to wish to ignore the posts on various fora that show the Newcastle will typically clock further than the Clawhammer under such cooling. BTW do you think I am a "noob" based on the number of posts I have here - or is your rationale based on something else? Yet again you show yourself up with such immature statements. As for being on equal terms - are you talking about general knowledge or are you talking specifically about extreme cooling? Does having the ability to use extreme cooling make someone more knowledgable about cpus, systems and general overclocking - or are we talking about a narrow field? Your vast knowledge clearly didnt hold you in good stead when you were :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:ing and moaning about your Asus - talk about impatient and irrational! Does that come naturally when you are so pretentious? I made a clear statement about the 3800+ v 3700+ with general cooling yet you choose to throw in your FX53 and an extreme cooled 3700+ (which I have already accepted will be superior under extreme cooling if you chose to read full sentences - or do you need me to draw a diagram?). I would prefer you gave a more balanced retort to my statement than that unless it is beyond your capability! You once again seem unable to grasp the fact that there are a multitude of overclockers out there who dont use extreme cooling and are looking for a more neutral and considered opinion on the merits of 939 Newcastle v 754 Clawhammer.
As for overclocking capital of the world - yup you got me there...... NEXT!
