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The “TurboWhirl Enhancement” sounds like a possibility for a significant water-tube inner surface convection enhancement by means of reducing the skin effect. This has been done in automotive and aircraft industry for quite some time, but I’ve never heard of it being implemented in computer watercooling.
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Originally Posted by spotswood
I talked to Daz about that and he said that is his preliminary guess at the cost. He just wanted shopbots to start seeing the price and product. He said he was quite confident that prices would fall directly in line with the original X-Changer release price, which or course will not make people happy either.
I think it is easy to say that allot of people are interested in how this all pans out. I know I am. I really do hope this can spark a change in how things are done and perhaps shave a few degrees or more. As long as it is something new, and actually performs well, I will be very interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex707
I will be watching Skinnee's review like a hawk, along with everyone else.
I shall be getting my hands on one of these so that my revision 2 rad stands will be compatible. :)
They are alu. Sad days. Feser say they rough up the molicules to stop them mis-behaving. I'm not convinced.
http://hw-lab.com/feser-admiral-radi...ntroduced.html
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Blergh Al throughout. Do not want. Just ask Swiftech - no amount of fancy tech can overcome the fact that chemistry's a female dog.
Thanks for the link:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Beard
Then my soapbox statement:
I really wish we would see more SCIENCE and COMPARATIVE TEST RESULTS with all NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENTS
I would think there was testing on this in the development of it...so where is it? Why not share with the public? Why do we have to WAIT??
I know I've never been very patient...
OK, I'll go to my corner now..:D
this nano coating on molecular level will make a real revolution in watercooling, just imagine that from now never corrosion will happen if mix copper with alu
want tests
It is hilarious how a pre-release radiator has the same sort of FUD campaign as an NV/ATI pre-release. :D
I agree skinnee. The other thing is it has been going on for months.... :down::down:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
I tried feser, i tried real hard... have to pull off a miracle to get me to buy one of these now :shakes:
Aluminum :shakes:
this from development: http://www.feser-one.com/admiral/admiral.swfQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
gotta love their own testing!! :)Quote:
Will all this features make any difference in performance compared to what ordinary rads can?
No one know, yet.
Seriously, does anyone really know they're all Al yet. It says frame.Quote:
*It is proved from reliable resource that frames are made of aluminum, however, there is no exact information on tube material. One information source states the tubes are made of aluminum, on the other hand Feser, through third parties, says the tube will be copper.
It is just a matter of time when the truth reveals.
Because of the controversial information about the material that will be used for Admiral radiator manufacturing, all information from TFC/Admiral official site was removed. Instead the following picture appeared:
K what's going on? I keep getting reassured that the frame is aluminum and not the channels, but at the same time people keep whining about the aluminum
IS IT IN THE CHANNELS OR NOT?!
EDIT: right as I posted, meanmoes post came up... thanks!
No aluminum in the water path.
Looks like the price is going to be just ridiculous though...
EDIT: hw-labs says that the pricing is going to be double or more the current line... does this mean $300 for a triple? I think that is just stupid.
BTW, i don't get it, is rad weight really that big of issue worth fighting with, or it's just shugarcoating "we couldn't make it all from brass/copper, but let's just call it in some unobtanium mumbo tech name and use aluminium as cheaper material"?
(^ of course if right ones are those saying that it's aluminium water tubes coated with that nano-coating/roughing or raping up or something, if aluminium doesn't touch water anywhere, as in just for outer fins, or if is used only as material for shroud, then no problems)
I accept as given, that case fitted with all the LC components + water will be heavier a lot. Even if rad will be half kilogram lighter then alternatives, imho it doesn't matter in overall picture of 25-30kg.
It's obvious that Feser's going to have no choice but to put their rads in their competitor's price range. Even the most extreme enthusiasts have a conscience, I doubt anyone would buy something for twice as much as the TA's.
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Originally Posted by meanmoe
What would hw-labs know about pricing?
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Originally Posted by ScottALot
Example
A. The monsta rad.
B.Custom cut and anodized plates and cases.
C. Sending out allready bought blocks and panels for powder coating to match.
D. MDPC-X
I'm guilty of at least 2 of those its an enthusiastic market. Some people willing to pay for just bling.
Raw cooling power ghetto style my build cost $2000. Nicely done $5000.
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may be future Monstra:
http://www.ural-temz.ru/netcat_files...3fe7a9e074db64
USSR innovation in 196x
that's fair. I don't know. They seem to have more info than other right now....Quote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
Yeah but all of that is offered as a performance-weighted premium... (performance in aesthetics, too). Forgive me if I'm the only one who sees it like this, but isn't this just another radiator design to compete with Thermochill, XSPC, and HW-Labs? I can see them making another Monsta off of this easily, so this looks like a baseline to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagisD
There's monsta in the line up it's like 18 rads total.
Personally I went with swiftech rads. I trust them. And there only ones that would fit: -)
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