drwho, can you say anything about the third gen atom? :)
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drwho, can you say anything about the third gen atom? :)
Can you answer mine from above?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Thanks for the info..
Will we see dual socket SB boards?
( and when,chips I can get, boards you have all locked away for yourself!
and one more..will SB be limited to 4 cores?
Actually he's already mentioned dual socket SB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
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Originally Posted by Drwho?
Why shoul SB limited to 4 cores?Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
SB is the name for the whole ľarch, so we get teh full spectrum. Form dualcores up to 8+ cores.
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Originally Posted by Iconyu
Hush guys, MM is asking tricky questions to get him talking about the real deal. He didn't fall for my trick tho. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
yeap, it is much faster than arm ... with better low power ...Quote:
Originally Posted by -Sweeper_
(Now, i ll get a lot of hate mails ;) ) hehehehe ... :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:
This is my opinion, it is ok to disagree, not ok to crusify me :up:
Let 's close this thread ... all was said ... Intel does not have a crazy plan to stop overclocking, otherwise, i would have hanged the dudes in my attic :) (Metaphore)
4 cores for 1156, not sure of 1355Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Now we just need dual core versions, running meego with a decent gui ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Any chance of pushing for external reference voltage control for internal receiver lines on critical signal stages? I know all references are internally derived (makes sense from many perspectives). This stuff is all automated now and I wonder if we can increase clocking margins somewhat on some processors with a manual shift - the effects of sub-zero temperatures on certain Tx stages can change voltage swing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
[QUOTE=Hornet331;4483956]Lol reading that paragraph you are beliveing that engineering only consists out of luck?
err no? what makes you think so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
ive run vdimm and vtt over .5v apart for 2 or 3 weeks without an issue...
vtt was 1.2v and vdimm 1.9...
it wasnt stable, i thought the mem was dieing but then saw vtt was at default... i must have had forgotten to adjust it when i tweaked the system 2-3 weeks before i noticed this.
and no, i dont think it has anything to do with luck :confused:
where exactly do i say something that sounds that way?
the part of my post your quoted doesnt hint at luck at all... :confused:
well thats what i said... its 22nm, not 16... i guess i misunderstood his post, it sounded as if he was saying haswell was 16nm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
no, i never said that and im sure the final parts will be a few % faster per clock, i noticed the same with lynnfield... its funny cause what i wanted to hint at was you sounding overly confident that you are the only one out there with accurate sb information... and you reply telling ME that i am overconfident... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
well im not making any big claims, and in this thread i havent made any claims about performance or clocks at all... so why are you telling me i sound overconfident? :confused:
lol at kuorus :D :toast:
oh one more thing, can you say anything about skulltrail2? :D
your saying sb wont come out until q1 2011?Quote:
Originally Posted by terrace215
or 1355/2011 wont come out until q1 2011?
So , does that mean in the current generation the SB and the NB has separate base clock ?
I always thought they both relied on a single clock generator , I guess that explains why something like the PCI-E and SATA bus operate at a frequency of 100MHz .
SB 1155 is supposed to have production shipments in Q4, and launch in early Q1. So, systems and retail parts should not be available before Q1, although maybe some parts will leak into shops in asia?Quote:
your saying sb wont come out until q1 2011?
or 1355/2011 wont come out until q1 2011?
SB 2011 (is there even a 1355 anymore, I think desktop may have moved to 2011?) is later, due in mid-2011.
DrWho: are you running on D0/ES2 step or later?
BTW: isn't that PCU uController in SNB based on ARM core?:rofl:
well i heard early q4 launch to catch the christmas shoppers... the boards are def ready... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by terrace215
and yes, like i said before, i havent heard of 1356 in ages... actually i never heard of 1356, i just heard and saw that there will be a 1366 replacement with vrm12 with a few pins added or removed. it would make sense if intel canned B2 aka 1356 and went for R for both MP, DP and sever and workstation SP... the costs of R and B2 were probably so close to each other that it didnt make much sense to have two platforms? especially since it fragmented the server market... and well, you want tri channel with less cores? you can have that with a socket R cpu and mainboard... just dont connect some of the pins and there you go...
so yeah, i never actually heard of 1356, all i heard of was quad channel, 8+ cores with bclock overclocking... from what i can see and read atm, im very sure that this is 2011 and not 1356...
shhhhh! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
come on mumak, leave francois' home-made beef jerky in his attic and dont embarrass him here ^^
Well, I guess anything is possible, though that goes against their claim that OEMs dislike Q4 launches, and when asked if Sandy Bridge was coming early on the CC they said:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
David Wong – Wells Fargo
Thank you very much. Paul, you mentioned that you are very excited about Sandy Bridge and this was one of the reasons for accelerating 32 nm, does this mean that you are planning to bring out Sandy Bridge earlier than scheduled, and when might we expect to see first launches of systems that have Sandy Bridge in them?
Paul Otellini
Well, we will talk more about the product in a lot of detail at IDF in a couple of months. In terms of product granularity, I really don’t want to get more granular than we have been which is that we will ship Sandy Bridge for revenue this year, late this year.
So, unless he is sandbagging, shipping for revenue LATE this year probably rules out a launch this year, since they like a month or two of shipments prior to launch, at least lately. And moreover, with Llano stuck in process hell, there's no competitive pressure to launch early...
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
oh come on... like this is the first time intel cpus could overclock which resulted in some people buying a cheaper cpu and overclocking it... yeah, thats never been here before :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanth
and 300$ for a 920... why do you think they priced the cheapest 1366 cpu that high? cause they KNEW a lot of people would overclock... an i7 probably costs intel around 50$ to make, if even that... dont think that intel isnt perfectly aware of this situation and adjust prices accordingly...
and terrace... no idea... i dont get why oems dont like q4 btw...
why would that be? :confused:
DrWho, good dodge, maybe you are re-enacting the French football team who went on strikeQuote:
Originally Posted by informal
:rofl:
Would you please give an answer to informals question....
:yepp:
Im sorry werent we talking about 1155?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Didnt you say 1155 was gonna blow away everything?Quote:
Information provided by Intel in its own presentations about its upcoming mainstream LGA1155 Sandy Bridge CPUs appears to confirm the company has designed the CPUs to deliberately limit overclocking.
Did we even get into 2011?
Isnt this article @ 1155 specifically?
Are you telling us, 1155 and 2011 are gonna be identical?
:shakes:
Yes i know who he is... and honestly i can care less if he's gonna pull NDA gag orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
He's trying to throw Han's finding under a Rug, and make us all deny it.
Ie.. he's trying to control information.
And im also like this to JFAMD and AMD, so Intel doesnt get a freebie from me either.
guys, francois doesnt have to answer any questions you know...
you should ask him in a nice way and he might actually reply, even if he avoids the main point of the question...
if you push him to answer your questions hes just gonna roll his eyes and close the tab...
Well thats completely up to him, isnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Dont think he is at the age where he will throw his toys out the pram.........saying that; he is French, LOL, hehehehehee
(Yes. just kidding :) ;) )..........
Dr Who:im confused, whats SB highend platform? LGA 1356 or LGA2011 (desktop only). At next IDF we will see "new roadmap" with this CPUs? Thx
Nop ... The PCU is actually much faster than an ARM ... :rofl: :ROTF: :rofl: :ROTF: :clap: :yepp: :rofl: :ROTF: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
pls, answer to me ,-). If can it :-)
I don't think that this sort of info can be disclosed to public yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r