AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition & 1055T launch on 4/27

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03-23-2010, 08:27 AM
lowfat

This may be the first AMD CPU I have bought in a while as long as it can do well @ folding.
03-23-2010, 08:28 AM
marten_larsson

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Originally Posted by haylui

????
I don't understand

Take the PhII-score at the same frequency and multiply by 1.4 to get a decent approximation of performance (seeing as the X6 has 50% more cores).

So that'll be around 13500 for the 1090T-part I guess (PhII 940 score x1.4).
03-23-2010, 08:30 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by marten_larsson

Take the PhII-score at the same frequency and multiply by 1.4 to get a decent approximation of performance (seeing as the X6 has 50% more cores).

So that'll be around 13500 for the 1090T-part I guess (PhII 940 score x1.4).

Exactly but the 1090T will be at 3.2GHz so it could be somewhere around 14700.

Don't forget that the CB utilizes very well the HT. Many multithreaded applications don't utilize it so much.
03-23-2010, 09:04 AM
Lokinhow

My bet is that X6 1090T will score ~17.5K in cinebench @ 64bits.
03-23-2010, 09:07 AM
jcmarfilph

Quote:

Originally Posted by haylui

????
I don't understand

That means Thuban 1055T can pawn Core i7 920 in Cinebench :D
03-23-2010, 09:10 AM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

That means Thuban 1055T can pawn Core i7 920 in Cinebench :D

I dont think so...

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/c...3451/21970.png
03-23-2010, 09:17 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

I dont think so...

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/c...3451/21970.png

was that a 2P mobo?
03-23-2010, 09:17 AM
Vozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

That means Thuban 1055T can pawn Core i7 920 in Cinebench :D

Core i7 920 will be EOL soon. Thuban 1055T needs to pwn Core i7 930 now. :D
03-23-2010, 09:19 AM
Lokinhow

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

I dont think so...

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/c...3451/21970.png

X4 955 runs at the same clock as the X6 1090T.

here we haaave:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/a...4837/18900.png

And here:
http://i43.tinypic.com/5ml4d5.jpg
we have 4.58x

X4 955 Score x 4.58x = 16831

BUT, the 4.58x is wrong, because X6 CPU have turbo, it was 3.3GHz @ single core and then 2.8GHz @ Multi core, so it's way more than 4.58x if we are comparing the same clock at single and multi thread.

so, I'm betting something around 17.5K

makes sense, doesn't? ;)
03-23-2010, 09:23 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

That means Thuban 1055T can pawn Core i7 920 in Cinebench :D

Cinebench (32bit)

1055T: 12642
i7-920: 12735

It's close.:)
03-23-2010, 09:30 AM
jcmarfilph

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

Cinebench (32bit)

1055T: 12642
i7-920: 12735

It's close.:)

Exactly :yepp:

With a faster RAM and discrete card. Thuban 1055T could reach 13k :clap:
03-23-2010, 09:32 AM
Dresdenboy

There are both numbers for CB R10 32 and 64 bit editions out there. The 1055T numbers are for 32 bit.
03-23-2010, 10:01 AM
gOJDO

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Originally Posted by Oliverda

IMHO turbo is a nice feature for the non-OCer users.

And the non-OCer users are noobz IMHO. :rofl:
03-23-2010, 10:39 AM
dartaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

That means Thuban 1055T can pawn Core i7 920 in Cinebench :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

Cinebench (32bit)

1055T: 12642
i7-920: 12735

It's close.:)

Why compare it to i7 920, when 920 is being replaced by 930 for the same price ?

Also, what about i7 860 ?
03-23-2010, 10:57 AM
jcmarfilph

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Originally Posted by dartaz

Why compare it to i7 920, when 920 is being replaced by 930 for the same price ?

Also, what about i7 860 ?

Hmm let's see. i7 930 is 100 bucks higher than Thuban 1055T.
i7 860 is 80 bucks higher.

Price/Performance goes to 1055T :p:
03-23-2010, 11:02 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

Hmm let's see. i7 930 is 100 bucks higher than Thuban 1055T.
i7 860 is 80 bucks higher.

Price/Performance goes to 1055T :p:

dont forget that 3 year old mobos can be used too. its an xtreme value
03-23-2010, 11:04 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

Hmm let's see. i7 930 is 100 bucks higher than Thuban 1055T.
i7 860 is 80 bucks higher.

Price/Performance goes to 1055T :p:

You preceded me.:)
03-23-2010, 11:04 AM
gOJDO

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

Hmm let's see. i7 930 is 100 bucks higher than Thuban 1055T.
i7 860 is 80 bucks higher.

Price/Performance goes to 1055T :p:

Depends on what you are doing. For the general user, the i7 860 will offer higher performance/price ratio. ;)
03-23-2010, 11:06 AM
RaV[666]

Even not taking platform costs into consideration, it seem 1035T is going against i5 650(thats pretty much a DOH) ,1055T goes against i5 750 and 1075T goes against i7 930.
1090/1095T may be launched in Q4 from what i read, but there isnt nothing solid on release date.
03-23-2010, 11:08 AM
Lokinhow

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Originally Posted by RaV[666]

Even not taking platform costs into consideration, it seem 1035T is going against i5 650(thats pretty much a DOH) ,1055T goes against i5 750 and 1075T goes against i7 930.
1090/1095T may be launched in Q4 from what i read, but there isnt nothing solid on release date.

I really think X6 1075 can't compete against i7 930. It will stay between i5 750 and i7 920.
03-23-2010, 11:15 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOJDO

Depends on what you are doing. For the general user, the i7 860 will offer higher performance/price ratio. ;)

Can you explain? i7 870 is $279.99. More expensive than 1055 will be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lokinhow

I really think X6 1075 can't compete against i7 930. It will stay between i5 750 and i7 920.

I can't see why not. 930=2.8GHz, 1075=3.0GHz.
03-23-2010, 11:33 AM
jcmarfilph

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOJDO

Depends on what you are doing. For the general user, the i7 860 will offer higher performance/price ratio. ;)

lets wait for more results then :)
03-23-2010, 11:37 AM
gOJDO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

Can you explain? i7 870 is $279.99. More expensive than 1055 will be.

Indeed and it still will offer higher performance/price for the general user or for the 90% of the software we are using today.

Quote:

I can't see why not. 930=2.8GHz, 1075=3.0GHz.

The frequency is not representing performance alone. It depends of the CPU(core, caches and ODMCs if any are present) architecture(including RAM performance) and the software running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmarfilph

lets wait for more results then :)

I agree, we need some official numbers before we can declare one or the other better in average. Anyway, we still can speculate. There are some numbers floating around and we already have a lot of benchmarks of the server hexacores which have exactly the same architecture with the Turbo feature missing.
03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOJDO

Indeed and it still will offer higher performance/price for the general user or for the 90% of the software we are using today.

...or not.:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOJDO

The frequency is not representing performance alone. It depends of the CPU(core, caches and ODMCs if any are present) architecture(including RAM performance) and the software running.

The Phenom II X6 will have +50% cores and higher clocks as well. It will win by force of numbers.;)
03-23-2010, 11:45 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOJDO

Indeed and it still will offer higher performance/price for the general user or for the 90% of the software we are using today.

i really doubt that part, ur expecting that 9 out of 10 things we use, will be 20-30% slower for amd of either comparison of 6core vs 8 threads, or amd vs intel turbo.

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