COD MW2 - No PB support and Dedicated Servers

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Originally Posted by Particle

Let's not kid ourselves. On that list of 30,000 people, I wouldn't doubt >90% of those who were going to buy it in the first place still do.

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I always laugh when I see these petitions because I think the same thing. It's a crappy move by IW but I don't care I wasn't buying this anyways. I'm going to preorder Boarderlands.

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Originally Posted by Decami

http://www.realitymod.com/

and lets not forget where the most popular map on that titale came from.
there was also a massive warhammer mod for BF2 which stopped production after it was almost done due to so much of the BF2 community moving to 2142.

There was much more, the game modded heavily bro.

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I miss Forgotten Hope for BF1942. The mod was bigger than the original game :rofl:

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Originally Posted by faster3200

It has VAC, which I would argue is better than PB. Still no dedicated servers and matchmaking makes this a loss as an online fps.

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VAC is just a reporting system, it only works after there have been lots of reports(hits) on the same person, and only after a jury at steam has decided will there be any action! By the time something positive has happened its long after the fact and the server has long since been ruined. It works nothing like how valve claims it does.

This a complete and utter fail, I'm sick of our gaming experience being gimped for the sake of some crappy outdated junk that happens to have a stranglehold on FPS nowadays!

Got rid of my 360 a few months ago and started PC gaming. Just getting used to using keyboard and mouse setup (played consoles my entire life). I was really looking forward to this game and multiplayer, but definitely have my doubts now. I didn't know much about dedicated servers before this whole issue came up, but after reading about them and seeing the benefit they bring with options in playing, I can't believe that they would do that.

Oh, and no modding? The few PC games I have played have been enhanced greatly by user mods. This company is just trying to make more money and they probably will, just not as much as they thought they would. I hope they don't though.
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Edit: I feel bad for the long time PC gamers. If it wasn't for you guys, the multiplayer phenom wouldn't be as big today as it is.

And this is why I am playing Diablo 2... again. Epic fail Activision. I was already mad enough when we first heard that the games price was going to go up but this is the final nail in the coffin. It is time to get nostalgic again screw this business.

Give them the finger, spit on their faces (Activision, IW) turn around and move on.

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Originally Posted by slim142

Give them the finger, spit on their faces (Activision, IW) turn around and move on.

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Yes and we can do this by pirating MW2 to hell and back, and handing out free copies to all our friends.

IW was already shifting towards consoles BEFORE CoD2 was released.

I don't remember where, but I read that IW wanted CoD2 to be modern warfare rather than WWII and being also released on consoles, but couldn't because Activision didn't let them do so, stating that modern warfare wouldn't work or the like.

With CoD4 they changed that of course, making it modern warfare and releasing it alongside the consoles.
And now this...

In short, "PC FPS game developer" IW = Only CoD1, back when they were the guys who left EA and MoH:AA development team to make a game that would put MoH:AA to shame, and they did.
They became something else after that

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

losing dedicated servers is one thing but being dumbed down to the console level is a whole new wave of stupid. my favorite part of COD on PC was the fact that online you could have your 64 player games compared to your 16 player games. i will not play a COD game online with less then 25 people in it. it just moves to slow, i have seen my buddies play online on their PS3's and Xbox's and it just looks plain boring because there is nobody in the match.

good thing i did not pre order this game.:(

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Too slow? COD4 was consider one of the fast, mindless run and gun game for the casual crowd. You must be living in the quake era to consider this slow. The maps are designed for 16 people. And I have already experienced spawn issues just with 16 people, and I can't imagine what 32 would be like.

No PB and dedicated server doesn't bother me much, as the game is designed for console, I might as well play it on a console.

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Originally Posted by exe163

Too slow? COD4 was consider one of the fast, mindless run and gun game for the casual crowd. You must be living in the quake era to consider this slow. The maps are designed for 16 people. And I have already experienced spawn issues just with 16 people, and I can't imagine what 32 would be like.

No PB and dedicated server doesn't bother me much, as the game is designed for console, I might as well play it on a console.

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the game wasnt designed for the console, the game was originally designed for the PC, they crippled it to make it more appealing to the console so it wouldnt cost extra money to make two seperate multiplayer setups

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Originally Posted by exe163

Too slow? COD4 was consider one of the fast, mindless run and gun game for the casual crowd. You must be living in the quake era to consider this slow. The maps are designed for 16 people. And I have already experienced spawn issues just with 16 people, and I can't imagine what 32 would be like.

No PB and dedicated server doesn't bother me much, as the game is designed for console, I might as well play it on a console.

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Your crazy if you think CoD 4 is fast. It is slow. The most fast paced current FPS would likely be UT3.

lol someone posted a topic on Infinity Ward forum title "sh*t", and he posted a gay :banana::banana::banana::banana: picture in it, along with some mumbo jumbo like "hi, i am from china, people here are fat ..."
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and the funny thing is that he spelled everything correctly, with the right capitalization. that is one of the best troll i have seen

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Originally Posted by Chickenfeed

And this is why I am playing Diablo 2... again. Epic fail Activision. I was already mad enough when we first heard that the games price was going to go up but this is the final nail in the coffin. It is time to get nostalgic again screw this business.

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exactly.... as if the "$10 more than what should have been" outrage isnt enough. they had to spit on pc gamer's face even more ... by not including dedicated server and mod tool

42280 signatures.

$2,536,800 potential loss.

:P

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Originally Posted by Philip_J_Fry

exactly.... as if the "$10 more than what should have been" outrage isnt enough. they had to spit on pc gamer's face even more ... by not including dedicated server and mod tool

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Don't forget no demo either, since they are/were sure the game would sell like hotcakes anyway...

Let's hope this boycott actually works.

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Originally Posted by rintamarotta

Well if they make same kind of account system as in BF2 but also without ability to make private servers (maybe only contracted companies can make server), it will cut down pirates away from multiplayer since they need authenticate with master server to be able to join to any online action.

I hope you understand what i mean here, my english isnt really good :)



Depends in the way Infinity Ward implements this new multiplayer system. They can make it so only contracted companies can make a unofficial servers so no server files bundled with game it self.

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Piracy isn't wrong, Ripping off good paying customers for a crappy game is wrong. When you torrent a game, if its got good quality you usually end up buying it too. Believe it or not, piracy is one of the best advertising and publicity you can get. There is many a time I bought a game I had no intention of buying after playing it, relized just how good it is and got it.:shakes:

Multiplayer is the only distinguishing feature PC games have. If the multi sux, its almost a guaranteed flop. :down:

60$ to play a 4 hour game is wrong. I rather spend 6$ and rent the game since there is no real reason to buy it. torrent? :shakes:

well this isnt news i wanted to hear today.

off with their heads!

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Originally Posted by Kain665

42280 signatures.

$2,536,800 potential loss.

:P

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Plus you aren't factoring in the bad press IW is getting. One of the first rules in business is that bad press spreads much faster than good press, and for every amount of bad press, it takes a much larger amount of good press to offset it.

So not only is IW potentially losing a lot of money directly, the potential for future losses is greatly increasing due to their image being smeared.

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Originally Posted by 003

Yes and we can do this by pirating MW2 to hell and back, and handing out free copies to all our friends.

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if u do that it will tell them that the game was good buy pirating stole the sales and they need to make stricter protections or no more pc games or delayed pc. if no1 buys or pirates it then they will retool from doing something wrong on their side

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Originally Posted by Pontos

Don't forget no demo either, since they are/were sure the game would sell like hotcakes anyway...

Let's hope this boycott actually works.

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i heard that they were having no demo, but having a beta like cod5, if we get that it will break IW if it works like the console versions

I can't believe this... Either they have someone really really stupid in upper management, or they have been paid off by sony or MS.

How can anyone think this is a good idea?

The COD series is famous for its multiplayer, and that is one of the big reasons it has been selling so well in the past. With this crap, people won't have a reason to buy it.

After the initial screwups from COD5 (and a lot of them were dedicated server related) it is pretty unpopular now compared to COD4. Seriously how do they expect this to sell anywhere near as much as COD5 even???

Matchmaking? Relying on other people's rubbish connections? No custom servers/community servers? Getting randomly shafted around to different servers if the server you play on gets disconnected?

screw that


As someone who has a legit copy of all the previous COD games, i won't buying this for sure until they change it.
And as someone who helps run COD4 comps at a 400 person lan party, this sure as hell won't be run as a competition, or even played.

http://efragtv.com/video/live/?chan=1

Talking about MW2, come join us.

Wow, this is lame. +1 on the petition

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Originally Posted by Pontos

Don't forget no demo either, since they are/were sure the game would sell like hotcakes anyway...

Let's hope this boycott actually works.

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Are you serious... no demo? :shakes:

So, the things that may stay my hand in purchasing this MW2:

1) Charging PC gamers the same price as console gamers, when the extra $10 is a liscencing fee that M$ and Sony put on all games originally to make up the amount that they were losing on each console.
2) This utter crap.
3) No demo.

I think that there are more as well...

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Originally Posted by ColonelCain

1) Charging PC gamers the same price as console gamers, when the extra $10 is a liscencing fee that M$ and Sony put on all games originally to make up the amount that they were losing on each console.

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Microsoft are maybe trying to make up for the "losses" on the Win 7 pre-orders :D

Damned mo:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: s they better offer me the option to pwn console nubs since the 2 versions are ~ exactly the same otherwise I am going AC 130 on their console fueled ass.