Chip-Con needs to use pallets on the bottoms of the packing and prevent this type of recurrent breakage (just glad mine survived from Denmark to your place). It's sad something so expensive is packed so poorly.
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Chip-Con needs to use pallets on the bottoms of the packing and prevent this type of recurrent breakage (just glad mine survived from Denmark to your place). It's sad something so expensive is packed so poorly.
well putting small pallets would help as i am shipping all my modded units out now with a small pallet,but...Quote:
Originally posted by WxChaser
Chip-Con needs to use pallets on the bottoms of the packing and prevent this type of recurrent breakage (just glad mine survived from Denmark to your place). It's sad something so expensive is packed so poorly.
i believe there can be a small improvement to stop this from happening in the furture if the unit is even dropped like this one was.
i am thinking hard about it now, i may start to include this improvement into my repairs and upgrades.
i feel i know what the problem is and it can be done at chip-con for little to no extra expense.and it will improve the cooling(but only slightly).
When my caseless Vapo came from Asetek, that was bolted to a wood frame with a wooden box around it. Best packing job ive seen, didnt even need peanuts.
With something that expensive, things like this shouldnt happen.
Your anger is well warranted.
its a gusher!! tap that oil well paw. jk. man oil is gross when it sprays all over you, i had that happen when my unit rolled over in the car when taking a turn too fast. pssssss, leaking propane/oil :banana:Quote:
Originally posted by bowman1964
i am mad right now....:mad:
another new unit( a brand new MACH II )is broken from shipping.i am not going to say much but show a pic where they all are breaking at so far,that i have personally seen.
that must have been dropped pretty hard to break one of those braze joints. do you add more oil when that happens? poe oil looks like lard when it leaks out of a small hole haha.
bowman. With that manifold of yours, by coiling the capillary tube around the manifold there is very little of it's surface area which is in contact with the copper pipe. If you slip a slightly larger pipe with one end capped over the cap tube and manifold. Then fill it up with some type of work liquid such as alcohol it will transfer the heat. Now you're relying more on conduction to transfer the heat and not mere convection.
I guess you could just solder the cap tube to the manifold. That would increase the surface area which is in contact, but that would be a pain in the ass to get off again.
There has been some discussion of running three evap in series rather than parallel, using one cap tube. In 35 years in the trade I have never seen this done, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it can't or shouldn't be done. Theoretically, the center evap would run colder than the other two. A heavy load on the first two would starve the third, but extra refrigerant could be added to compensate. This would necessitate an accumulator. If there were a leak or a restriction, the third evap would suffer.Quote:
Originally posted by JToolz
Hey Bowman, I still dont understand how you run three capillaries off one compressor. I thought it was only safe to run one??
you can run as many as you like as long as you can tune it to work.it just makes it more complicated to make work by a factor of 5...
for every cap tube you run you increase the load on the compressor.and increase the tuning needed.
Problems, but nothing that can't be worked out. In any case, something that might make for an interesting experiment.
what have you been doing.....spying on me?;) you can be arrested or maybe even shot for doing that.....:p:Quote:
Originally posted by Apoc
bowman. With that manifold of yours, by coiling the capillary tube around the manifold there is very little of it's surface area which is in contact with the copper pipe. If you slip a slightly larger pipe with one end capped over the cap tube and manifold. Then fill it up with some type of work liquid such as alcohol it will transfer the heat. Now you're relying more on conduction to transfer the heat and not mere convection.
I guess you could just solder the cap tube to the manifold. That would increase the surface area which is in contact, but that would be a pain in the ass to get off again.
yep there is a larger tube that will suround the bottom part.this will be filled with a easy to use liquid.
i am impressed to be honest.i hadnt said a word about that part because i cannt even start on installing it untill i get the cap tub wrapped and drain tube tube installed.very good my friend....:D
hehe.. thanks mate
I have too much free time :D
Great minds think alike :toast:
Hey Bowman! Are you running all three evaps off of one compressor? If so what are the specs of that compressor?
1hp if i recall correctly, which is roughly 12,000btu, and since that is a window unit compressor it can remove 12,000btu at 45F evap temps. what refrigerant are you using? that is an r22 compressor from the looks of it, are you using r404 in an r22 compressor? if it is r404 than the 12,000 would be somthing different, probly higher at the given evap temps but the condenser will have to remove more heat and the compressor will get as hot as my car hood on a hot summers day.
sorry guys my ISP is acting up and i cannt upload or even view the fourm from home.so i got back from a get away with my girlfriend over the weekend and now my ISP is screwing me....
i will try and update the pages as soon as i can.but right now online at work is all i have and it will be trying to catch up,but it will be slow.
Where are your priorities?!?!?!?!? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by bowman1964
...so i got back from a get away with my girlfriend over the weekend...
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Originally posted by uclajd
Where are your priorities?!?!?!?!? ;)
well that was a tough decision.....:rolleyes:
you see one hand i had ......get alot of work caught up on my projects and maybe do some benching....
on the other hand i had a 6ft tall, very deep dark tanned ,bunette female, who layed topless on my boat for hours on end saturday and sunday.......
man it was a tough decision:slobber:
Whoa! Thats an easy decision for me. I think you made the right decision. :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by bowman1964
well that was a tough decision.....:rolleyes:
you see one hand i had ......get alot of work caught up on my projects and maybe do some benching....
on the other hand i had a 6ft tall, very deep dark tanned ,bunette female, who layed topless on my boat for hours on end saturday and sunday.......
man it was a tough decision:slobber:
I didn't think you were that hard on your equipment (the boat man, the boat)! :D
Bowman,
You have topless prommies don't you? Several I imagine....every mans dream! :D
You're doing it wrong, Bowman. Should be vice versa. :DQuote:
get away with my girlfriend over the weekend and now my ISP is screwing me....
Gotta teach these kids everything... lol
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Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
You're doing it wrong, Bowman. Should be vice versa. :D
Gotta teach these kids everything... lol
Laughing my axx off......Gary I wondered who would be the first to spot my wording.....:toast:
hahahahahaha! That is one of the funniest things I've ever read in the forums. By the way, Hey Gary I came across your Tech Method book. One of my fathers friends is a refrigeration guy and he gave me a copy of it. Im reading it now, amazing book so far. I am noob at this stuff and am learning slowly but looking at Bowmans work and seeing his work and now reading your book, its like a whole new world. :banana:Quote:
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
You're doing it wrong, Bowman. Should be vice versa. :D
Gotta teach these kids everything... lol
Steal it so he will have to buy another copy. :D
Actually I already took it :D But being the honest guy I am, Ill probably return it and buy my own.Quote:
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
Steal it so he will have to buy another copy. :D
I think you'll get your money's worth. When going for lowest possible temperature, fine tuning is everything.
Besides that, you'll be able to fix your own A/C, refrigerator, freezer, etc., and fine tune it better than most people in the trade. :D
..... if this boat's rockin'..... don't be knockin'.
How'd that song go? "don't rock the boat baby."
For punishment, you will remain in the Mod Shop
over the long Labor Day week-end and redeem yourself.
The sanity of the phase-change world is upon your
shoulders and you are carousing on some house boat
with a semi-nude lady. The Devil will get ya.
Repent!!!!
Pops.
we all need a break from computers..