That Masterkleer is disgusting :P
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That Masterkleer is disgusting :P
Very neat n tidy. The TJ07 seems to be a great case for this type of setup.
1 or 2 circuits? Both pumps are D5's, right? What sort of temps are you getting?
Love what you did with the hard drives mate... solves the lack of 5 1/4" bay issue very nicely for several hdd's.
PA120.1 looks very pro-mounted :)
are you going to swap out that tubing?
Thanks guys!
Q's...
It's single loop still with 2 D5's. Temps...in 80F room it's mid 60's depending on which Orthos routine it's doing. Seems about 3C max cooler than before the nozzle treatment. Not too shabby with a 6600 'B' chip with 1.51+ vcore @ 3.8Ghz.
Scuzzy tubing...yep it is :cool: . Too lazy to change it, I'll just wait until the new stuff matches the old :p:
How long have you been using the crappy Masterkleer? I don't want mine to die too fast :shrug:
That's impressive! I'm struggling to bring mine (B2) towards 3.8, just wont hold that level and be stable. And thats at >1.6V, guess every chip is different, hey? Again very neat setup - this case must be amazing to work with, a modders dream for sure. I have kept my Tt Armor since I got it maybe 3 yrs ago - still very happy with it but nice to see what can be done with a TJ07, have seen many good mods with it.
that tubing looks digusting, but otherwise, nice work andy
Thanks! When I say 'B', I'm meaning the L627B, not B2 stepping. The B's are seemingly hotter running than A's, at least in that chip's generation. FWIW, max Orthos stable for my particular CPU is 3.85Ghz, but the vcore is goofy at that speed with similar heat output, so I turned down the speed 50Mhz for 24/7 style operation.
I've been following this thread since it started and like many others, am very impressed. So much so, that I'm going down the same path.
The only change I was thinking (and I believe it was mentioned by someone earlier in the thread) was cutting a ventilation hole in the bottom of the case so that both rads could be set up with fans drawing out through them and venting the warm air back outside. This schematic is based on thinner rads than your thermochills, but even with them, you should still be able to gain sufficient venting up from the bottom. Note, you should place at least a single sheet metal divider vertically up from the center of the vent cut in the base to keep cross-flow from disturbing proper flow between both rads separately. Also, this will require the addition of "feet" to the case so it sits up off the floor. I was thinking of simply pulling off the circular feet from an old receiver. They will look pretty nice.
I'm also modding a front 120mm fan to intake into the top section of the case almost exactly like what you did, but without the single 120mm rad.
What do you think?
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1...sidebu0.th.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...rearib9.th.jpg
i like your idea, especially the "air-guides". With low rpm fans, I don't think the bottom hole will be too small for 5 fans to breathe through. If you want to use high performance fans, I guess that they will have a hard time...
Do think of one thing though: How to build a removable air filter!
With 5 fans sucking air from the floor, you will have a very dust-free area around your TJ07, but you will be needing to clean your radiator VERY often!! When my water cooling adventure started, I mounted a radiator in the bottom of an Antec Sonata case sucking in air. My case was raised quite a bit from the floor, but still I had to tip my case every week to vacuum the radiator. Now, the Antec Sonata case is only a midi sized case so it's not that heavy or hard to tip once a week, but the TJ07 might be a different story. That only applies if you put a filter in the bottom cutout you are going to make. If you do not put an air filter of some kind in the hole, You will be wearing that radiator mount out by removing at least one radiator to get to the other for vacuuming.
So a removable air filter has to be included in your build, for your own sake.
Sorry for using your thread AndyM, to comment on Hijacks idea.
just a tray with a peice of mesh that fits in it would be fine. then just stretch a pair of old pantyhose over the mesh for a cheap and free flowing filter.
A bit of an upgrade this weekend for my machine...
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0/E8400007.jpg
The IHS is not nearly as wonky as my E6600 was, but still has high spots in the wrong places
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0/E8400015.jpg
Now that it is flat, a glob of my favorite TIM...
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0/E8400035.jpg
Ohhh, shiney!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0/E8400038.jpg
An extra 600 Mhz over my old C2D, gotta love 45nm. Room ambients at 79-81F during this testing.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...44_12hours.jpg
Hey, well done! 600MHz, thats a healthy increase :D And 67C for max cpu temp is not bad at this clock speed.
So did you just get your wolfdale? I've been trying to get my hands on one of these for months now, still it has not arrived at my edealer. I just heard rumours intel has halted production (temporarily) of the 45nm duos.
Also - I guess that is AS5? It just looks so shiny and, well silvery :p: Looks beautiful in fact.
Oh and nice lapping. But why does the IHS looks copper red in 3rd pic? Is it just reflection from something else or did you prep it further after lapping?
All in all seems your weekend has been very productive :clap:
THanks! The red is the final lapping, the first picture was just to show the high spots on the IHS. The TIM is Coolaboratory Liquid Metal...excellent stuff, I cant say enough good things about it.
I was holding out for an 8500, but as they seem to be vaporware in the USA, I gave in and got an 8400. This chip got me to where I was seeing myself after moving to 45nm, so it worked out well. Saved some $$ too if the 8500 should actually be available sometime, lol.
TigerDirect has the e8500 in stock now if you're interested. $300 US.
Also, hope you don't mind my intrusion in your thread here, but I've got such enthusiasm for your project, that I can't help but share what I'm finding on my own journery down the same path.
I found this today: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21082
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5...2b02ch4.th.jpg
I know you've already done a killer job mounting the Lian-Li 120mm front fan bezel in your case and attaching your single fan rad to the back, but this one is a silverstone front itself that you might like. I'm ordering it for my case. (also saves me from having to notch the internals to get the lian-li to fit).
EDIT: Heh, nevermind. I see waaay back in the thread you had already considered this piece! Mia culpa. I do like the look though.
hate to bring up an old thread but props on the job. looks amazing
Yeah...There are some kind of killer LCS systems.
Excellent wiring job!
Great Job AndyM!
I'm thinking of having bother rads exhausting hot air out each side of the case, drawing cold air in from the top compartment as all fans will be intakes there 2x 92mm rear 2x 120mm top(Including 2 x 120mm fans from 2x antec 900 bays for HDD's)
Do you think this could work well?
Holy thread revival Batman :eek:
To answer the question the rads in the bottom compartment are fairly isolated from the upper chamber and you are probably better off having both move air in the same direction rather than drawing on the warm internal air...
hmm.. perhaps you are right but it would be top positive pressure heavy using 4x 120mm and 2x 92mm and with 5x 120mm in the lower compartment so I was hoping for some pressure push to get the slightly warm air down there.
The main thing I was concered about with your idea is feeding hot exhaust air into the second rad, are you saying this is not a concern?
I have both my rads moving air in the one direction in my TJ07 and there is no noticeable affect on performance - I have tried the air moving both ways as well and temps didnt change between them. Plus the main benefit to using the external air rather than the internal is that you are using fresh air for the first rad rather than air that has passed over every other component in your case to feed both rads...
My :2cents:
I went with the PA rad sandwich with both sets of fans blowing in the same direction and your right its very good :)
3x 120mm intake - 2x 120mm exhaust.
Thats a nice case and nice work on it.