Onepagebook, coolaler and Superpi

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12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
giampa

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Originally Posted by guess2098

becasue opb sux on 3D lmao
and coolaler doesnt know how to use solder XD

:rolleyes:
12-13-2006, 04:44 PM
STEvil

jmax - It is not a cheat so long as it is done legitammetly. Just as in the 440bx days where people would modify them to keep the PCI frequency down so they could push the FSB higher.

CPULL - Didnt say they necessarily did.
12-13-2006, 04:47 PM
boblemagnifique

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Originally Posted by STEvil

jmax and wittekakker: Changing PLL's and clock crystals is nothing new and definately not a cheat.

However, should the OS lose its ability to tell time accurately there will be large problems.

As has been stated multiple times in this thread, clarification is the objective. If this is a tweak that they would not like released to the general public then PM'ing it to a trusted individual is not a hard task. Of course keeping the tweak for themselves means it doesnt get a cool name like "The OPB/Coolaler Tweak" though.

Ah Ah Ah , very very anything :cool:

That gives false results thus it is cheated (still it is necessary specify it)

One cannot approve a quartz change which makes it possible to give false value like a valid screen

Especially when Asus Taiwan and Cpuz (confirmed by Franck delattre) prove that it isnt the screen is not at the true frequencies :p:
12-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Omastar

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Originally Posted by ThePredator

Oh my God , i can see it know cleary , OPB is cheating , that is the reason he blows such an amount of money in hard , because only downloading a trial of photoshop and you can be the top dog here......

@zborgon , you are going way too far in this flaming to OPB , one thing is asking him to prove a result and other thing is what you are doing

i simply cannot believe what i'm seeing , OPB has been always nice with you guys and shared all the info he found out , and you pay him back like this??

Huh...someone from OCX defending someone from OCX with no further evidence than a bias to back it up. I think that's what we DON'T want.
12-13-2006, 04:51 PM
jmax_oc

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

jmax - It is not a cheat so long as it is done legitammetly. Just as in the 440bx days where people would modify them to keep the PCI frequency down so they could push the FSB higher.

Stevil read carefully my words :
Coolaler changes the quartz to get a huge frequency under cpuz. But it WASN'T the REAL frequency since his spi result is very poor.

Franck : cpuz creator showed us that the displayed 600MHz frequency was completely wrong...

Showing 600MHz whereas the real frequency is far lower (480-500MHz) is cheating. That's all :fact:
12-13-2006, 04:52 PM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePredator

Oh my God , i can see it know cleary , OPB is cheating , that is the reason he blows such an amount of money in hard , because only downloading a trial of photoshop and you can be the top dog here......

@zborgon , you are going way too far in this flaming to OPB , one thing is asking him to prove a result and other thing is what you are doing

i simply cannot believe what i'm seeing , OPB has been always nice with you guys and shared all the info he found out , and you pay him back like this??

hum, it's not the first cheating, with the 28GP... 27.5 at 2800MHz with an A64 1MB and TCCD, tss, impossible, 28.3 is already awesome with some BH-5

He changed the CPU frequency after the run, just that... not extraordinary :nono: (I think and sure his scores are real)
12-13-2006, 04:52 PM
zbogorgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePredator

Oh my God , i can see it know cleary , OPB is cheating , that is the reason he blows such an amount of money in hard , because only downloading a trial of photoshop and you can be the top dog here......

@zborgon , you are going way too far in this flaming to OPB , one thing is asking him to prove a result and other thing is what you are doing

i simply cannot believe what i'm seeing , OPB has been always nice with you guys and shared all the info he found out , and you pay him back like this??

show me a single thing i said that that was a definite lie or was not backed up with arguments

as far as prooving, if you have read my original topic, you should know that there is no way of prooving that he cheated, it is only up to him to proove that he didn't, as simple as that, so sorry

nice or not, facts are facts, I am always willing to fight for the truth and looks like all you guys from OCX have a very hard time excepting that
12-13-2006, 04:53 PM
Omastar

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Originally Posted by ThePredator

yes what you want is to flame , i can see that already

Incorrect. What I want is for some decision to be reached on this matter without a swarm of people from OCX coming in and flamebaiting.
12-13-2006, 05:01 PM
cpulloverclock

I want a vid... If I see OPB who gets a sub 9.000s at 5.5G (or a logical score at 4.5 or other frequencies) ok, if not...
12-13-2006, 05:02 PM
zbogorgon

cpulloverclock
well it is not necessary that he did 8.906, IMHO he would need 5700 MHz for that and to bo honest, I don't think he did it, he did a cpuz verification, but that is far from superpi run
12-13-2006, 05:02 PM
jmax_oc

Thepredator, if you choose to follow OPB and his 27.6s at 28GP, it's your problem :D. But don't spoke about OCX. It's not the subject.

The subject is that nobody understand OPB and Coolaler result's. Therefore they have yet shown us their ability to post wrond resultas :D
12-13-2006, 05:03 PM
RyderOCZ

Why is everyone arguing about this?

None of you are OPB and none of you are Coolaler.

1 simple PM to Charles from either of them......all of this is over.

You can all argue until you are blue in the face, it will not solve anything.
12-13-2006, 05:03 PM
STEvil

Here is the important part you keep skipping over, jmax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

jmax - It is not a cheat so long as it is done legitammetly. Just as in the 440bx days where people would modify them to keep the PCI frequency down so they could push the FSB higher.

CPULL - Didnt say they necessarily did.

I hope its clear to read now.
12-13-2006, 05:04 PM
zbogorgon

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Originally Posted by ThePredator

So you basically talk bad about OCX's owner but you cannot allow any from OCX defend for that? , please read the last words of my sign , the red ones ;)

certainly you can defend him, just try to argument, the only think you and Nickey are doing is bashing everybody with no arguments at all and with statements that cannot be taken as a fact like (OPB would never lie, cheat...)
12-13-2006, 05:05 PM
cpulloverclock

Ok, now I look at just his time (8.906) and not the frequency but for the 28GP he is #1 with a fake
12-13-2006, 05:07 PM
jmax_oc

Stevil, I think that you are a bit narrow minded...
Look at the first screen :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114600

Don't you see a problem here ??? 17.4seconds with a conroe at 3600MHz ??? Are you noob enough not to ask you the right questions ??? Scores at 3600MHz are near 14seconds !!! not 17.4 seconds.

On this screen (refuses by cpuz), we can clearly see that the real frequency is 6x480 or 6x500Mhz. That's all.

If you go on telling me that this 600MHz is 100% real, ok I will let you alone with your ignorance
12-13-2006, 05:09 PM
charlie

Just a quick note...

Pedro and Ricky discovered and introduced the (multiprocessor ACPI) tweak and that, at it's time was completely unheard of... and gave BIG speed boost. It is considered a TWEAK, not a CHEAT. When the community was scratching their head as to WHAT those two were doing... they came forward and showed us all the TWEAK. It was clear and duplicatable (is that a word?)
If OPB/CA come forward with the tweak and prove their "edge" then everyone will have to eat their words, just as Pedro/Ricky did.
12-13-2006, 05:10 PM
misteroadster

That's sad, really sad on one side, but on the other we can see that the overclocking is going to be a real sport :D

I've ever doubted on some of those stranges scores, but it's really unfair.

Who is the real FSB champion ? maybe a french guy with 616Mhz with a p5b dlx bought in a shop ?

I hate fakers, we are working hard some times to get a score and in fact we're fighting alone.
12-13-2006, 05:11 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Just a quick note...

Pedro and Ricky discovered and introduced the (multiprocessor ACPI) tweak and that, at it's time was completely unheard of... and gave BIG speed boost. It is considered a TWEAK, not a CHEAT. When the community was scratching their head as to WHAT those two were doing... they came forward and showed us all the TWEAK. It was clear and duplicatable (is that a word?)
If OPB/CA come forward with the tweak and prove their "edge" then everyone will have to eat their words, just as Pedro/Ricky did.

yeap just as pedro himself mentioned earlier

no need to get into personal insults now....it's starting to get out of hand in the thread a little
12-13-2006, 05:14 PM
kiwi

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Originally Posted by misteroadster

Who is the real FSB champion ? maybe a french guy with 616Mhz with a p5b dlx bought in a shop ?

.

How about 622? :D
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=143757
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=145996
12-13-2006, 05:14 PM
Omastar

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Just a quick note...

Pedro and Ricky discovered and introduced the (multiprocessor ACPI) tweak and that, at it's time was completely unheard of... and gave BIG speed boost. It is considered a TWEAK, not a CHEAT. When the community was scratching their head as to WHAT those two were doing... they came forward and showed us all the TWEAK. It was clear and duplicatable (is that a word?)
If OPB/CA come forward with the tweak and prove their "edge" then everyone will have to eat their words, just as Pedro/Ricky did.

This tweak can provide a speed boost on the order of shaving 4 seconds off one's SPi1m time?
12-13-2006, 05:15 PM
STEvil

jmax, have I once ever in this thread mentioned those results?

No.

In fact I only told you that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

jmax - It is not a cheat so long as it is done legitammetly. Just as in the 440bx days where people would modify them to keep the PCI frequency down so they could push the FSB higher.

In this I am referencing that many have performed PLL/crystal mods to attain higher FSB's AND THEY DID SO IN A FASHION WHICH WAS NOT DECEIVING AND DID NOT MODIFY HOW THE OS RECOGNIZED THE CLOCKS.

This is to tell you that

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmax_oc

Changing quartz to get a FSB WR is a cheat

IS NOT A CHEAT.

Yes, it can be exploited, no it is not a cheat.
12-13-2006, 05:15 PM
boblemagnifique

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Why is everyone arguing about this?

None of you are OPB and none of you are Coolaler.

1 simple PM to Charles from either of them......all of this is over.

You can all argue until you are blue in the face, it will not solve anything.

Yes in any way OPB it will be right is even on and one will have still forgotten this history of 28GP and of CPUMARK FX55 claw for 1 year still and now this Superpi has 5.55ghz has 8.906s….

It is always the same thing, a newbie would have posted that , it would have been ban directly but it one will believe on word OPB considering it is a god of the overclocking and that these overclocking doesnt bring publicity for the job ....

More it is obvious more people dont believe in it

That becomes really pitiful not to opposite look at reality since nearly 2 years ....
12-13-2006, 05:15 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by kiwi

How about 622? :D
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=143757
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=145996

LOL
12-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Vapor

I'd be extremely surprised to see the crystal getting changed on any of these....

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