Intel Xeon 3060 First result! 56K soon to be DEATH!

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12-01-2006, 10:04 AM
bofors

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Originally Posted by shimmishim

yeah.. did you get it from newegg? i know newegg has their own bar code thing they put on all retail packages

Ya, that must be it.
12-01-2006, 10:18 AM
bofors

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

:mad: Dammit!

:eek: I am running that same PSU and I have three more sitting here in boxes.

I researched the crap out of that PSU, found almost no reports of failure and absolutely nobody claimed that it killed their system: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=30232

I have been running my E6300 with no problem for a few weeks on it (but at the minimal voltage of 1.275 V). Statistically spearking, I think I am still pretty safe but my confidence in this PSU is defiinitely gone.

fhpChris, I am sorry that of all the people this could have happened to that you were the victim (someone who did not even buy one no less) and that it killed a brand new BadAxe2 as well. But can you tell us if you were running any high power graphics cards or anything else that might have triggered this event?

~bofors
12-01-2006, 10:25 AM
GPSeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhpchris

So I went to go play with my Badaxe2, roomate insisted on using his POS Ultra 500w that he got free after rebate, and I thought, "hey this is conore + x800 vanilla, its gotta work!?" It booted, and I went in bios and changed the voltages to what I normally would use....

And the psu died, taking the mobo with it :(

Needless to say he now owns a Silverstone ST56ZF Zeus!

I'm sorry to hear this:mad:
I had hoped you got better results than I do with the same setup as mine.
It's your original post leading me to xeon 3060. Thank you for the good work.
12-01-2006, 11:37 AM
fhpchris

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

ouch! so your badaxe2 is dead? :(

Yes, I only once got into the bios, it was looking like a cool board, and with a dual core it let me set fsb to ~482 or higher, 482 was the highest I tried to enter....

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofors

:mad: Dammit!

:eek: I am running that same PSU and I have three more sitting here in boxes.

I researched the crap out of that PSU, found almost no reports of failure and absolutely nobody claimed that it killed their system: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=30232

I have been running my E6300 with no problem for a few weeks on it (but at the minimal voltage of 1.275 V). Statistically spearking, I think I am still pretty safe but my confidence in this PSU is defiinitely gone.

fhpChris, I am sorry that of all the people this could have happened to that you were the victim (someone who did not even buy one no less) and that it killed a brand new BadAxe2 as well. But can you tell us if you were running any high power graphics cards or anything else that might have triggered this event?

~bofors

You could not pay me to use that PSU. I hooked my 8800gtx + 10th crucial ballistix + xeon 3060 up to the badaxe 2 to test them and my FSU 700w shrieked in terror! I hope it is still alive :|

xeon 3060/ 10th Crucial/ X800 are runnning on my AW9D right now :)

High power Graphics cards? I was using AN ATI X800 VANILLA! (Thank you NickS!), it just does not get more "low power" than that card, it does not even have extra power connectors on it!

With "ONLY" conroe + BX2 I exploded that PSU! DO NOT USE THAT POS! Throw the ones you have on ebay, or just throw them in the trash!
12-01-2006, 11:54 AM
bofors

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhpchris

High power Graphics cards? I was using AN ATI X800 VANILLA! (Thank you NickS!), it just does not get more "low power" than that card, it does not even have extra power connectors on it!

With "ONLY" conroe + BX2 I exploded that PSU! DO NOT USE THAT POS! Throw the ones you have on ebay, or just throw them in the trash!

Thanks for details.

But before I dump my PSU's, I have one more question.

Was this Ultra new when it killed your BadAxe2 or had it been used before?

EDIT: I just sent an email message to Ultra about this issue, I want to see what they have to say about the safety of these PSU's, the cause of failure and what sort of protection they offer against a defective product that destroys hardware. It seems to me that they are liable for damages caused by their PSU's loaded within spec.
12-01-2006, 04:49 PM
GPSeek

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Stress test update:toast:
12-01-2006, 05:32 PM
NightRaven

hey GPseek.. what vcore are u using bro?
12-01-2006, 08:00 PM
bobov

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Originally Posted by shimmishim

not too shabby.. should be able to do 9x400 hopefully with 1.35 or 1.375 volts?

i've got the same chip coming on monday as well.

Ordered a L628B 3060 (comfirmed by them) from pyrinex today, will get it on Tuesday. :)
12-01-2006, 08:08 PM
bobov

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Originally Posted by NightRaven

hey GPseek.. what vcore are u using bro?

1.40v in bios?
12-01-2006, 08:56 PM
GPSeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobov

1.40v in bios?

yes
12-01-2006, 09:22 PM
fhpchris

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofors

Thanks for details.

But before I dump my PSU's, I have one more question.

Was this Ultra new when it killed your BadAxe2 or had it been used before?

EDIT: I just sent an email message to Ultra about this issue, I want to see what they have to say about the safety of these PSU's, the cause of failure and what sort of protection they offer against a defective product that destroys hardware. It seems to me that they are liable for damages caused by their PSU's loaded within spec.

New
12-01-2006, 09:41 PM
BlaqMale

anybody got a dfi infinity laying around to test the xeon in?
12-01-2006, 11:16 PM
Phosphate

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Originally Posted by bobov

Ordered a L628B 3060 (comfirmed by them) from pyrinex today, will get it on Tuesday. :)

They have a good price on this CPU. So has anyone confirmed that Xenon week 28 B step CPUs are made of tougher silicon than week 28 "B" step 6600s?
12-01-2006, 11:46 PM
GPSeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phosphate

They have a good price on this CPU. So has anyone confirmed that Xenon week 28 B step CPUs are made of tougher silicon than week 28 "B" step 6600s?

I think nobody really knows except a very few intel guys working in the fab:stick:
12-02-2006, 02:02 AM
bofors

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhpchris

New

Thanks again, I am going to putting the screws down on Ultra over this. If I get them to cough up some money, I will let you know.

I thought the killer Ultra PSU might have been new, I think I need to find a way to test or burn-in my other Ultra PSUs before exposing good hardware to them. I have an old motherboard that might work for that.

I am going to build a second Xeon 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305. I did pick up a BFG Tech 650 W PSU last night for this new build, which looked like the best thing I could find at CompUSA that had an EPS 12V (8 pin) connector on it. I have been wondering if my cheap (and now potentially dangerous) Ultra was limiting my overclock anyways.
12-02-2006, 02:07 AM
fhpchris

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofors

Thanks again, I am going to putting the screws down on Ultra over this. If I get they to cough up some money, I will let you know.

I thought the killer Ultra PSU might have been new, I think I need to find a way to test or burn-in my other Ultra PSUs before exposing good hardware to them. I have an old motherboard that might work for that.

I am going to build a second Xeon 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305. I did pick up a BFG Tech 650 W PSU last night for this new build, which looked like the best thing I could find at CompUSA that had an EPS 12V (8 pin) connector on it. I have been wondering if my cheap (and now potentially dangerous) Ultra was limiting my overclock anyways.

Yea, the BFG PSU should at least be reliable enough not to make you too nervous to use it LOL ;)

I know we all want to use affordable and cheap parts for crunching rigs, but skimping on a PSU is just a bad idea :(
12-03-2006, 03:07 AM
bofors

I got almost identical results from building a second 3060 (L629A780 ) box today with another BadAxe1 rev. 305.

It seems to be 100% stable at 3.6 GHz (on either 1066 or 1333 strap), but requires a vCore of about 1.55V. The only differences seem to be this system can be stabilized by raising the vFSB and BIOS reports that runs some 10 degrees cooler than the first one.

Both of these systems will overclock at little above 3.6 GHz, but are not very stable and will not reach 3.7 GHz. I have tried overclocking above 400 FSB on the 1066 strap with ClockGen with the same results.

The BFG Tech 650W PSU seems to be a little more stable than the Ultra V-Series 500W, but the 12V rail is little under 12V (the Ultra is always about 12.125V).
12-03-2006, 03:12 AM
bofors

Code:

Dear Ultra, I have purchased four Ultra V-Series 500W and have used one for a few weeks with excellent results. However, I was shocked to read a forum post today describing how an Ultra V-Series 500W died and destroyed a brand new Intel "Bad Axe 2" motherboard in the process. I would to know how and why an Ultra V-Series 500W can destroy a motherboard and what kind of protection Ultra offers on such a defective product. I would also like to know how many times an Ultra V-Series 500W has died and destroyed components in the process. Thank you, [bofors]

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Dear Customer Thanks for you recent email. That unfortunate situation is a isolated problem, V series is one our best PS that we have in the market. Thanks Thank you for contacting us. If you have any further inquiries please reply to this email. Sincerely, Miguel Ultra Products Tech. Support

So, the Ultra V-Series are sone of their best PSU's? Hmm...
12-03-2006, 06:47 AM
RacerX

Seems with alittle break in this cpu is starting to shine....

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/4.1ghz.JPG
12-03-2006, 07:53 AM
bofors

4.1 GHz. That's nice, I wonder how much of that is do to your water cooling.
12-03-2006, 08:08 AM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofors

4.1 GHz. That's nice, I wonder how much of that is do to your water cooling.

I would like to think its doing some good but to be honest my heatercore cannot handle the temps these B chips are pushing out. Soon will have another rad and would like to see 3-5c in temp drop, if that happens 4.2SS might be happening.
12-03-2006, 10:21 AM
fhpchris

Great results everyone ;)
12-03-2006, 03:46 PM
PowerToTheUsers

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaqMale

anybody got a dfi infinity laying around to test the xeon in?

I'm interested in the answer too. I think it's compatible with every conroe-board (or atleast 965 and 975-based), so I guess it will be compatible, but a real answer would be nice.

Are there any dual-xeon motherboards to put two xeon 30x0s in a dual setup? Or is that only possible with the 5000-series (and its FB-dimm :sick: )
12-03-2006, 05:01 PM
RLM

Bofors,

Glad I posted my batch number in another thread, save me digging out boxes or removing water blocks. My xeon is week 28 B, L628B211.

Just thought I'd post it here, instead of PM. Just in case it's of general interest:)

RLM
12-03-2006, 06:23 PM
bofors

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLM

Glad I posted my batch number in another thread, save me digging out boxes or removing water blocks. My xeon is week 28 B, L628B211.

Just thought I'd post it here, instead of PM. Just in case it's of general interest:)

Thanks, I looked through this thread a couple times but was not sure that I didn't miss it.

I am sure there is general interest in these batch numbers.

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