!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

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09-15-2006, 02:50 PM
NicoOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-sanity

eek. God hipro...honestly.

As for u sic, real sorry to hear bout the dad, but WOAH right to ur door!? Dang Abit is ahusslin' huh :D Glad to see them back tho, even if thise board doesnt clock too high, it looks like abit is back in the spotlight, cause man, that cooling looks pretty mean. And backlights on the mobo....priceless :D

Yeah, abit is putting quite some effort into this. Can't wait to get my hands on the new beta BIOS.
09-15-2006, 04:10 PM
death metal

sicness, (I only read till about page4 or page5), sorry to hear you got bad board (wrong 12v connector). Hope you get a replacement and also hope you'll get one with a good BIOS too. I see a potential for this, let's hope Abit can live up to the enthusiasts' expectations.
09-15-2006, 04:16 PM
NicoOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by death metal

sicness, (I only read till about page4 or page5), sorry to hear you got bad board (wrong 12v connector). Hope you get a replacement and also hope you'll get one with a good BIOS too. I see a potential for this, let's hope Abit can live up to the enthusiasts' expectations.

Thanks. I have another ordered board on it's way (might arrive tomorrow already) and abit's replacement coming up next week.

BTW, more results emerge - ZABEK at hardwareluxx.de is running 430x8 with default 1,7V, still testing.

Edit: Typo.
09-15-2006, 05:32 PM
party animal

I think this board has a lot of potential. Let us know how your new boards do sicness!
09-16-2006, 12:15 AM
dutchman.pt

Let's see if with the new bios this MB unleashes even more power.

Sicness, nice to see that ABIT solved that annoying problem and you are going to get a new MB.
Good luck.
09-16-2006, 12:31 AM
NicoOCZ

A new beta BIOS has been posted on hardwareluxx.de, it's possible to change multis in BIOS now. See this post.

Although Alex tested it and it works for him ... !Flash on your own risk!
09-16-2006, 01:10 AM
Lestat

427 x 7 please tell me that isnt all he has gotten ?

so when does the "Max" actually start kicking in ? do you have to like yell at it ? threaten it ?
09-16-2006, 01:46 AM
Raja@ASUS

427 on the 1066 strap is probably quite fast, especially on the 975 chipset. I think ABit need to focus on enabling a 1333fsb strap to get this board hitting 450fsb. I'd like to see how this current bios performs with the 4mb cache cpu's (E6600 upwards). Next week, I'll find out...

regards
Raja
09-16-2006, 02:04 AM
Bluebeard

exactl. 1333strap is missing :(

no way to get the ddr2-1000C4 running at specified speeds - 427 C4-3-3-5 is max for 1:1

4:5 RAM maxes out @ ~920 :(
09-16-2006, 02:14 AM
yotomeczek

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

427 on the 1066 strap is probably quite fast, especially on the 975 chipset. I think ABit need to focus on enabling a 1333fsb strap to get this board hitting 450fsb. I'd like to see how this current bios performs with the 4mb cache cpu's (E6600 upwards). Next week, I'll find out...

regards
Raja

So this mobo is dissapointing too (as for me P5B Dlx)
Strap 1333 suck because of poor performance
On Bad Axe without mod I did 430 strap 1067 (after mods 470) I thonk I bought another Bad Axe ...
09-16-2006, 02:21 AM
sierra_bound

1067MHz strap almost always gives the best performance. This is why people's obsession with FSB is sometimes misplaced. You are sometimes better off running with slightly lower FSB and tighter strap.
09-16-2006, 02:36 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

1067MHz strap almost always gives the best performance. This is why people's obsession with FSB is sometimes misplaced. You are sometimes better off running with slightly lower FSB and tighter strap.

Very well said.....;) :toast:
09-16-2006, 02:37 AM
Raja@ASUS

exactly, recently in the mid market, I've noticed that the less hardcore users of boards get quite good benching scores in 3dmark on the DFI975XG, it has not got great FSB in most cases, but it's a damn fast board.

I dunno what the norm is at the higher straps for other boards, but i get just under 8900mbs ram bandwidth on the 1066 strap at 385fsb 4:5 divider.. For those with X6700's on air it's a great board. Of course for super pi, other things become important...

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ndwidthvn7.jpg

regards
Raja
09-16-2006, 02:43 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

For those with X6700's on air it's a great board. Of course for super pi, oter things become important...

regards
Raja

Unfortunately, Super-Pi 1M does almost the same with whatever Ram modules you have.....No big deal.....Either you play with 4-4-4-12 or with 3-2-2-1, you'll se no big changings.....Though at 32M you can see it, OR WinRar 3.61 OR Pi-fast......;)
09-16-2006, 02:49 AM
Raja@ASUS

thanks for clearing that up HI-Pro..

I have the Abit coming next week for review, let me know how to attach the Maximiser to it if you can (Mods?)....

Also Asus P5WDG2 Pro when you can....

regards
Raja
09-16-2006, 02:54 AM
yotomeczek

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

1067MHz strap almost always gives the best performance. This is why people's obsession with FSB is sometimes misplaced. You are sometimes better off running with slightly lower FSB and tighter strap.

Exactly
My Friend did compare on P5B Dlx
8x450 ram 1:1 4-4-4 vs 9x400 ram 1:1 4-4-4 and ... in all benchmarka 9x400 was better :D
09-16-2006, 02:56 AM
Raja@ASUS

yes 1066 vs 1333, even 50fsb can't make up the differance....
09-16-2006, 03:22 AM
NicoOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

yes 1066 vs 1333, even 50fsb can't make up the differance....

Would like to see some benchies of some 1333 strapped asus board with like 450 vs. AW9D-Max with PSB 1066 and maybe 420 ;)
09-16-2006, 02:29 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sicness

Would like to see some benchies of some 1333 strapped asus board with like 450 vs. AW9D-Max with PSB 1066 and maybe 420 ;)

I will run the Asus board tonight with the new 1404 bios. In the meantime here is the E6300 on the Abit board with the new beta bios. The Sandra 2007 scores are UnBuffered. The board will boot at 7x475, can only run benchmarks starting around 7x465 and it appears 7x460 might be stable (for some benchmarking runs, not 24/7) at this time although I have several benchmarks left to run. I am still having the same issues as before with PC-8500 and above modules from OCZ/GSkill/Geil in trying to run at 1:1 ratios, they run fine at 4:5, some at least boot now and others might do 1:1 but are not stable. I had to use the Corsair 6400C3 modules for 1:1 capability. Also, PCI-E issues with the SATA ports are gone now, well the option to change PCI-E speeds has been removed from the bios. Although you can change them with uGuru in Windows but it depends on your drive if it works or not. X6800 is still locked at 11x maximum and so far all of my retail chips have worked properly with the downward multiplier.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/748...x7combouc4.png
09-16-2006, 02:33 PM
NicoOCZ

Great, thanks mate :toast:
How much volts on the MCH?
Wish I could push my board further ... that 1:1 issue is really annoying. You don't happen to have some Elpida chipped RAM sticks you could throw in for a quick 1:1 test?
09-16-2006, 02:43 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sicness

Great, thanks mate :toast:
How much volts on the MCH?
Wish I could push my board further ... that 1:1 issue is really annoying. You don't happen to have some Elpida chipped RAM sticks you could throw in for a quick 1:1 test?

1.90 MCH, going higher did not help, extending memory timings did not help, just at the limit of our board.... I have a set of Elpida I will try. The Micron D9 has been my focus this afternoon. ;) I will try the E6600 here shortly. I just dropped down to 7x455, failed a three loop run of 3D06 just a minute ago.
09-16-2006, 02:45 PM
NicoOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

1.90 MCH, going higher did not help, extending memory timings did not help, just at the limit of our board.... I have a set of Elpida I will try. The Micron D9 has been my focus this afternoon. ;) I will try the E6600 here shortly. I just dropped down to 7x455, failed a three loop run of 3D06 just a minute ago.

Looking forward to see the results.
You got PM ;)
09-16-2006, 04:56 PM
bingo13

7 x 455, 95% stable, still failed a couple of benchmarks with the 7950GX2 overclocked. Memory timings are improved but I still could not match previous results with the Corsair 6400C3 at this speed.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4...x7comboxx9.png
09-16-2006, 05:00 PM
bingo13

7 x 450, memory was perfect at 3-4-3-10, passed all benchmarks so far and dual Prime95 stable for the past couple of hours. Looks like we have a winner at this setting on our board (which is not the best sample around). ;) I am moving to the E6600 now and will have updated Asus results later.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8...x7combosz0.png

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/564...7ap32mdfu0.png
09-16-2006, 05:05 PM
dinos22

pretty good times in SPI as well :toast:

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