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08-13-2006, 11:01 AM
CrazyJohn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kampfflummi

As in many cases not all users need to have the same problems. Please read my little test concerning this again, I do not have any other Idea than the CAS Problem actually being a problem, at least for some. Now with F4e I can run this thing at 375FSB without touching any Voltages besides memory, running at 1:1. Now thats an improvement over not being able to overclock more than to 300FSB with every other Bios before. One could almost think my stability issues were solved the same time this little displaying bug dissapeared. Now THAT'S a coincidence...

strange,
i don't want to argue, but you are the first person who says it'a s bug in bios... we'll see when more ppl report what they gained by F4e
it is likely that i'm wrong ;)
08-13-2006, 12:37 PM
ClockCatcher

Hey, I read this on Newegg DS3 customer reviews:
Cons: I put the wrong front connector pin for the power button in the power connector spot on board. The one that says power on the board is actually the reset switch

Other Thoughts: I am guessing that some of these people who are rmaing all these boards are not checkng all connections and type of ram before doing do
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128012

Strange...
08-13-2006, 12:41 PM
ClockCatcher

Hmm, you should put links to the Bios versions in the FAQ.
08-13-2006, 01:07 PM
tys90

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyleow

Do NOT assume that the board is capable of 390 FSB. Most likely the limiting factor is the motherboard and not the memory. I have the same 6400 platinum sticks, and I can pass memtest at 400 FSB but I will fail dual prime in windows at the same speeds. I'm almost certain that some of the FSB walls (even those under 400) people have been hitting are caused by the motherboard and not the other components.

I just exchanged my DS3 and I haven't tested the memory dividers on this particular board, but they seem to be buggy as well. Running at stock speeds and running the divider so the memory is at 800mhz will allow me to pass memtest but fail dual prime. I tried with 667 and 800 with no luck, and this memory is rated for 800. I have also tried a pair of Corsairs with the same result.

I've come to the same conclusion about that same memory/MB combination, it's fine to atleast 800, probably even higher, but for the life of me I can't even get the MB to boot at 396+ but it is stable enough to boot and run anything for a while at 395 (haven't tried prime for a long period of time yet). I've tested this out with 6x, 7x, and 8x multipler and all hit the same wall, so it's not my CPU and I've ruled out the memory. I've e-mailed for a RMA exchange, they should give me one and then I'll ship it out. Hopefully mwave's RMA process is quick, I'm sick of waiting.
08-13-2006, 01:14 PM
SlackerXL

Quote:

Originally Posted by tys90

I've come to the same conclusion about that same memory/MB combination, it's fine to atleast 800, probably even higher, but for the life of me I can't even get the MB to boot at 396+ but it is stable enough to boot and run anything for a while at 395 (haven't tried prime for a long period of time yet). I've tested this out with 6x, 7x, and 8x multipler and all hit the same wall, so it's not my CPU and I've ruled out the memory. I've e-mailed for a RMA exchange, they should give me one and then I'll ship it out. Hopefully mwave's RMA process is quick, I'm sick of waiting.

what rev. is your current DS3?
08-13-2006, 01:16 PM
tys90

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlackerXL

what rev. is your current DS3?

Rev: 1.0
08-13-2006, 01:25 PM
SlackerXL

Quote:

Originally Posted by tys90

Rev: 1.0

mine too (with similar symptoms as yours)

are there any newer revisions out there?

(can't wait to go back to work on Wednesday
to open every single ds3 to check'em out...)
08-13-2006, 01:31 PM
fyleow

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlackerXL

mine too (with similar symptoms as yours)

are there any newer revisions out there?

(can't wait to go back to work on Wednesday
to open every single ds3 to check'em out...)

All 3 DS3s I've tried are Rev 1.0, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the only one out right now.

First one I tried was not dual prime stable over 300 FSB.
Second one seems ok at around 350, I haven't tried higher. It also did 450 for about 30 minutes before failing.
Third one will not even post at 450, but was dual prime stable at 350 FSB for 18 hours.
08-13-2006, 01:44 PM
tys90

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyleow

All 3 DS3s I've tried are Rev 1.0, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the only one out right now.

First one I tried was not dual prime stable over 300 FSB.
Second one seems ok at around 350, I haven't tried higher. It also did 450 for about 30 minutes before failing.
Third one will not even post at 450, but was dual prime stable at 350 FSB for 18 hours.

Hmm...makes my board look good, I can probably do 24/7 stable at 380 if I had to guess. I was really hoping for 3.2 Ghz (400x8), but knowing that there are better DS3s out there, and my CPU and memory aren't holding it back, makes me want to return it. With my luck, I'll probably get a worse one. If I start spending a bunch on shipping it back a bunch of times then it kinda ruins the point of getting a price/performance board like the DS3.
08-13-2006, 03:25 PM
celerity

I got E6400 + DS4 at 3,00 GHz with F2 BIOS. Is there any know issues with DS4 temp sensors? In BIOS it shows my idle CPU temp is 28 C (my room temp is 22C) and System Temperature (this is the NB temp, right?) round 32 C.

I downloaded Core Temp Beta 0.9 and it shows diffrent

Then EasyTune shows even lower on CPU... this is not possible since its lower than my room temp.. but the system temp looks like the one in BIOS.

The highest one is the real temperature? I always thought BIOS had the most correct temperature.
08-13-2006, 05:06 PM
fyleow

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerity

I got E6400 + DS4 at 3,00 GHz with F2 BIOS. Is there any know issues with DS4 temp sensors? In BIOS it shows my idle CPU temp is 28 C (my room temp is 22C) and System Temperature (this is the NB temp, right?) round 32 C.

I downloaded Core Temp Beta 0.9 and it shows diffrent

Then EasyTune shows even lower on CPU... this is not possible since its lower than my room temp.. but the system temp looks like the one in BIOS.

The highest one is the real temperature? I always thought BIOS had the most correct temperature.

Try using SpeedFan. Temp 2 is the CPU temperature and it has been pretty accurate in my experience.
08-13-2006, 05:19 PM
fyleow

Quote:

Originally Posted by tys90

Hmm...makes my board look good, I can probably do 24/7 stable at 380 if I had to guess. I was really hoping for 3.2 Ghz (400x8), but knowing that there are better DS3s out there, and my CPU and memory aren't holding it back, makes me want to return it. With my luck, I'll probably get a worse one. If I start spending a bunch on shipping it back a bunch of times then it kinda ruins the point of getting a price/performance board like the DS3.

I think 380 isn't bad at all, but I guess my expectations are low because of the string of bad luck I've had. Just make sure it's actually stable by priming overnight. I was overjoyed at my 450 FSB overclock thinking I had finally solved the problem until it failed 30 minutes later.

Are you running MCH, FSB, and PCI voltages at stock? It doesn't seem to make a difference for me, and according to the E6400 overclock thread most people are getting 400 FSB on the DS3 with everything stock...

If you don't mind running a test for me could you try setting the CPU to default FSB and changing the multiplier so your memory runs at 800? See if it will dual prime stable for about 1-2 hours. Mine just refuses to be stable under any memory multiplier other than 2, and I have this problem on multipler boards.
08-13-2006, 05:29 PM
tys90

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyleow

I think 380 isn't bad at all, but I guess my expectations are low because of the string of bad luck I've had. Just make sure it's actually stable by priming overnight. I was overjoyed at my 450 FSB overclock thinking I had finally solved the problem until it failed 30 minutes later.

Are you running MCH, FSB, and PCI voltages at stock? It doesn't seem to make a difference for me, and according to the E6400 overclock thread most people are getting 400 FSB on the DS3 with everything stock...

If you don't mind running a test for me could you try setting the CPU to default FSB and changing the multiplier so your memory runs at 800? See if it will dual prime stable for about 1-2 hours. Mine just refuses to be stable under any memory multiplier other than 2, and I have this problem on multipler boards.

Only voltage that makes a difference is +.1 MCH, +.2 and +.3 do nothing more, nothing less. I keep FSB and PCI stock since they seem to do nothing as well. I'll do the prime for the memory in a bit here then do prime overnight for the 380x8 and if all goes well I'll probably just keep everything and call it good.

EDIT: Started memory test, I can only do an hour or so (early day tomarrow).

EDIT2: 1.5 HRs 0 errors, I put everything to stock (+.3 vdimm for my OCZs), disabled throttling,etc, changed mem to 3x making it 800 and then ran the test.
08-13-2006, 07:14 PM
kenofstephen

can anyone run over DDR2 950 on DS3? please post your results if it's ok, thanks!
08-13-2006, 07:38 PM
fyleow

Quote:

Originally Posted by tys90

Only voltage that makes a difference is +.1 MCH, +.2 and +.3 do nothing more, nothing less. I keep FSB and PCI stock since they seem to do nothing as well. I'll do the prime for the memory in a bit here then do prime overnight for the 380x8 and if all goes well I'll probably just keep everything and call it good.

EDIT: Started memory test, I can only do an hour or so (early day tomarrow).

EDIT2: 1.5 HRs 0 errors, I put everything to stock (+.3 vdimm for my OCZs), disabled throttling,etc, changed mem to 3x making it 800 and then ran the test.

Thanks. Guess it's just me then :confused:

I just failed at 380 FSB after 40 minutes, gonna try +0.1 MCH, if not then it looks like I'm stuck at 370 or maybe lower :mad:
08-13-2006, 08:07 PM
tys90

So...I just put my settings back what I had for 380 and the board won't post, cleared cmos, now it beeps at me like the ram is the problem, so I changed it out with my el cheapo stick that I used to boot before and it still does the long beep at me. wtf?

I'll try the ram out in a different system tomarrow, but I think my MB just decided to :banana::banana::banana::banana: out on me. I can't get the thing to stop doing the long beep.

EDIT: Tried the ram out in another system, works fine. I guess it's RMA time :(
08-14-2006, 02:09 AM
Dominus

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockCatcher

Hey, I read this on Newegg DS3 customer reviews:
Cons: I put the wrong front connector pin for the power button in the power connector spot on board. The one that says power on the board is actually the reset switch

Other Thoughts: I am guessing that some of these people who are rmaing all these boards are not checkng all connections and type of ram before doing do
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128012

Strange...

Hmm, not impossible - My DS3 turns on oddly, it powers on for less than a second, powers off and then turns on properly - Looks like time to mess around with the connectors then.
08-14-2006, 02:44 AM
doom_st

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominus

Hmm, not impossible - My DS3 turns on oddly, it powers on for less than a second, powers off and then turns on properly - Looks like time to mess around with the connectors then.

That is normal for these boards.
08-14-2006, 04:04 AM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

can anyone run over DDR2 950 on DS3? please post your results if it's ok, thanks!

I can run Corsair UL up to 490 1:1 4-4-3 fine but it has serious problems running above 510-520 any timings and 2.5 memory divider

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1784/32m3400ma8.jpg
08-14-2006, 04:07 AM
ClockCatcher

Off-topic
kiwi: Why do you use such huge font?
08-14-2006, 05:39 AM
kiwi

Can anyone show me retail 4MB Conroe that is easily bootable and benchable at least 9x450 on any 965 board and any cooling? ES doesn't count since I can't easily get them anymore

ClockCatcher:
Because it greatly reduces eye stress and fatigue :)
08-14-2006, 06:09 AM
BigSteve

DQ6 FAQ here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?p=165099
08-14-2006, 06:34 AM
delas52

God, I think my motherboard might be limited at 330FSB. It can boot up at up to 350, but only stable at 330. I tried everything I could think of. I'll do some more testing today.
08-14-2006, 08:10 AM
shawn1998

I have a quick question related to the DS3 and sata drives. I have 2 150gig Raptors (not in raid, just two individual drives) and a Plextor 755SA (sata drive). I have all three connected to the Intel sata ports and have disabled the Gigabyte sata controller. What mode should I have the ports set to? Should it be set to AHCI?

Shawn
08-14-2006, 09:58 AM
Ribbon

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Can anyone show me retail 4MB Conroe that is easily bootable and benchable at least 9x450 on any 965 board and any cooling? ES doesn't count since I can't easily get them anymore

Same - my DS3/E6600 is honestly disappointing T_T

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