I've always said I thought something was wrong with the memory on those Gainwards. I could never get mine over 580MHz(had 2 of these cards) @ stock voltage w/o major artifacting.
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I've always said I thought something was wrong with the memory on those Gainwards. I could never get mine over 580MHz(had 2 of these cards) @ stock voltage w/o major artifacting.
goldlocke, thank for the pic. I actually want the pic of your card with the ramsink on. hehehe, sorry for the misunderstanding, thanks anyway for the pics.
One thing i realise is the ram is damn hot.
Ok, so you guys say this memory suck, ok, that's fine...
From what I've heard Hynix memory is one of the best, and after reading this thread I've seen that the Abit Siluro TI4200 gets some insane 700mhz+ overclocks.
What I'd like to know is if there is any difference with the bare 64MB card and the 64MB with OTES cooling. (Bar the cooling of course.)
And also the same board but with 128MB of memory. Do they all overclock to about the same speed or is one of them a "black sheep"?
oh, and is there perhaps another card you guys swear by, if so, which one?
And lastly, what cooling do you guys employ for the memory bar the heatsinks? Do you have a fan infront of it blowing cool air all over it?
The reason I'm asking is that my computer is watercooled, including the GFX cards GPU, but this doesn't leave much cooling for the RAM... I've only got very quiet Pabst fans in my case...
tryed today a Abit Ti4200 with 4ns Hynix memory...
can do 355/660 w/o mod and w/o artifact :) :cool:
yes, with watercooling and 3° water, but are very hingt frequencies :)
next week voltmod & peltier :D
PS: with stock cooling can do 335/640 ;) w/o any artifact, 650 with minor artifact
Which model was it? (64mb, 64mb OTES or 128mb)
Mine is the orignal 64MB, 4ns hynix. I got close to 700MHz w/ no ramsinks.
The OTES one uses 3.6ns hynix just like the MSI card but the 3.6ns chips don't seem to OC any further than the 4ns...Goldlocke's is a pretty good example of that.
And the 128MB will prolly have 4ns samsung, which don't seem to be oc'n as well as the 4ns hynix...so if i were to buy another 4200 it would definitely be one with the 3.6 or 4 ns hynix chips on it as they seem to both OC well...but I wouldn't pay no premium for the 3.6ns if u know what i mean :D
Ok, thanks for the advice N8!
Now I just gotta sell this Gainward ;)
The OTES does not have the capacitor where normall you'd monitor memory, they've moved it I geuss. So that's one difference ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Per Hansson
Which model was it? (64mb, 64mb OTES or 128mb)
standard Abit TI4200 64MB ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Per Hansson
Which model was it? (64mb, 64mb OTES or 128mb)
is it ok to vmod the ram and not use any ramsink on it?
If you are careful and not apply to much voltage and also keep an eye on how hot the RAM gets...
I run my 4ns hynix @ 3.9v & 695MHz w/ no ramsinks...I've measured the chip temps @ under 80F which is rather cool. While sysfailur says his get rather hot(and he has ramsinks). I think the best way to tell is to feel the chips with ur fingers while upping the voltage...mine were barely warm to the touch. Not sure why the difference, as we both have the same card.
can you measuer resistace for DDR overvolt?? tnx ;)Quote:
Originally posted by [N8]
I run my 4ns hynix @ 3.9v & 695MHz w/ no ramsinks...I've measured the chip temps @ under 80F which is rather cool. While sysfailur says his get rather hot(and he has ramsinks). I think the best way to tell is to feel the chips with ur fingers while upping the voltage...mine were barely warm to the touch. Not sure why the difference, as we both have the same card.
I will try to do that for ya tonight...what voltage do you want, 3.9v?
if you can 1.9-1.95v for gpu & 3.9 for ddr :)
my ram is damn hot without the ramsink. I have check the voltage, the gpu is running 1.7v and the mem is 3.3v. So how much can i got? 1.9v and 3.9v? with a 5k variable resister?
You have the ability to go higher, but I would say if you're aircooling 1.9 and 3.8 or 3.9 would be safe.Quote:
Originally posted by aarion
my ram is damn hot without the ramsink. I have check the voltage, the gpu is running 1.7v and the mem is 3.3v. So how much can i got? 1.9v and 3.9v? with a 5k variable resister?
a few times ago i'd burned my ti4200 because i'd wrong regulated the 5k variable resistance for vmem...Quote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
You have the ability to go higher, but I would say if you're aircooling 1.9 and 3.8 or 3.9 would be safe.
i don't know how much voltages had used to burn ddr (the artifacts remain also with 3.3v ddr.. -> burned ti4200 :( ), but from your knoweldege, what is max VDDR before burning all?? and VGPU??
if i set 2v/4v can i burn all or this are a "safe" voltages for extreme test (with pelt&WB & selfmade memcooler by 2 socket 7 cooler)??
tnx
Yeah I geuss I should've clarified..... my definition of "safe" is that it runs hehe..... I did have artifacts all over the place... So ehh, maybe 3.75 for mem and 1.80 for gpu would be ACTUALLY safe ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
a few times ago i'd burned my ti4200 because i'd wrong regulated the 5k variable resistance for vmem...
i don't know how much voltages had used to burn ddr (the artifacts remain also with 3.3v ddr.. -> burned ti4200 :( ), but from your knoweldege, what is max VDDR before burning all?? and VGPU??
if i set 2v/4v can i burn all or this are a "safe" voltages for extreme test (with pelt&WB & selfmade memcooler by 2 socket 7 cooler)??
tnx
so if i try 4v mem or 2v gpu i have a good probability to burn it?? (i'm watercooled with 3° water & probably this week peltierized)
the problem is: hot to find the max voltage support without burn it?? does it crash in 3dmark like, or it burn directly?? :(
i think 1.9 & 3.9 will be safe for only test time, not??? could i'd burned my old ti4200 with 3.8v?? or it would be probably with 4.1??
I tried both 2v & 4v w/o burnin anything...but it didn't gain me anything either so I turned it back to 1.9/3.9. Yours may be different, so don't take my word for it. ;)
BTW, didn't get a chance to measure those resistances last night...will try to tonight :)
Also, I do not get artifacts @ 3.9v...and I have no ramsinks...but for some reason my memory chips are rather cool compared to others that I'm hearing.
i need the resistances to take a similar resistance to put in serial with 5komhz VRs to make a overvolt protection ;)
i don't want to burn another ti4200 :( :mad:
tnx!
overvolt protection? use a 10 or 20 turn pot and a slow hand...there's ur overvolt protection :p
Yeah I have 20 turn pots... You can do a full 360 and sometimes it won't even move up .01v.Quote:
Originally posted by [N8]
overvolt protection? use a 10 or 20 turn pot and a slow hand...there's ur overvolt protection :p