Im running an AN8 ultra - latest official bios. Twinmos pc3200 bh5 250 fsb @ 3.5 volts with aggresive timings(2T) 100% stable.
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Im running an AN8 ultra - latest official bios. Twinmos pc3200 bh5 250 fsb @ 3.5 volts with aggresive timings(2T) 100% stable.
Yes, but the problems people have had is apparently with 1TQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Dead
Just got my an8 ultra and set it up with the following:
36gb raptor
250gb maxtor maxline3
ati x800xl
2x512 mushkin pc4400
ocz powerstream 520
Nec dvd/cd burner
Well it recognizes both drives, formats the raptor drive windows is going on then restarts to begin installing windows like it should however it just freezes at the windows logo screen and wont go any further.
I tried doing the above twice, resetting the cmos by removeing batter for a while still nothing!
All of these components were working fine in my msi neo4 plat so i know none of them are faulty.
Any suggestions?
memory timings? make sure 2T is enabled.
Yah i noticed at post that it was running in auto and set to 1t so i changed it to "spd" and now reads 2t but still nothing. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
ok im goin to take out the mushkin and put in some corsair xms pc4000pro even though i dont think thats the problem.
physically change it to 2T
tried that, set mem settings to "manual" then changed it to 2T, nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Its so wierd it formats windows, then restarts to install it and just hangs at the windows loading screen.
I even tried a new sata drive thinking it was the raptor, nope still does it.
I dont know, i should probably start a new thread for this, dont want to get off topic.
Sampsa on Abit motherboards....wow....nice
i found that the RAM wouldn't scale with extra voltage at 1T...in fact it would error if i give it more volts than necessary.......2T was acting normal...provided my thread link at OCAU in next post:)
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Originally Posted by Sampsa
OK i had someone over at OCAU test the beta bios as i am on stock heatsink until i sort out my water cooling.....
the bottom line is that 2T is still there with your bios.
BTW i can actually go to 227MHz 1T 2-7-12-2-2-5-2-2-1-1 error free memtest#5&8, BIOS13, but only 1:1 after that id doesn't scale with voltage so i had to go to 2T and went up to 259MHz
here is my thread over at OCAU that talks about that
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=384427
so your test#8 can loop error free at 288HTT 235RAM?
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Originally Posted by Rolle2k
ITS A MIRACLE!!! :woot:
ok well not really, i flashed the bios to 15 and now windows resumes installing, all i can say is its really wierd that it wouldnt install with bios 13.
there's been some odd behaviour with these boards i must say...that one makes no sense....BIOS13 is supposed to be the least troublesome bios overall ...or i'm under the wrong impression.....
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Originally Posted by Delirious
all AMD mobos are odd. Only intel boards are consistent and only if its an intel chipset.
yah amd never ceases to amaze me. Its frustrating haveing to deal with these strange problem, when, like situman said, i came from an intel board that was a rock of stability and consistency. :stick:
oh well im just happy it works..................for now.
Hmm, I've been using them more or less from 1999 :) Too bad they have changed their focus to this Fatal1ty thing instead of overclocking :(Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Here are some pics of my Abit R&D and Factory tour I did last year.
I have been testing the 16 BETA bios. The 1T issue still remains, i get flooded with errors at 235Mhz 2-2-2-7 1T in test 8 and they disappear if i set it to 2T.
Currently i am trying to tweak it more for my UTT BH-5 and the first bug i have found is that if i select the 3.55v option, the bios will hardlock
This board has been tested to 340HTT stock chipset voltage, 350HTT with .2v more and i am yet to change the chipset cooling pad :slap:
Doh!
Good to see another well known OCer making a contribution :clap:
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Originally Posted by Sampsa
n00b quesion here, but what exactly is 2T or 1T :S
whats it abt and how do u change it?
and is the 1t problem on these boards on tccd is general with evry proc or with venices
and if ur raitng mobo's on there bugs oir unstability, how would this rate against the DFI NF4 Ultra? just wondering which board tends to be more troublesome
2T and 1T is command rate.. 1T has about 2% over 2T? you change it in the dram configuration in the bios there should be an option for it
1T and venice is only for Abit AN8 boards if i'm not mistaken and a bios update should fix it..
the Abit is a stable board but bios wise i'd say DFI has an edge over the Abit.. at the moment there's quite a few issues with the Abit boards
venice and 1T
sandiego and 1T with bh-5 (instant reboot)
higher vcore needed for same clocks
bios update is worse than stock bios =/
i reckon all of those can be fixed with a bios update.. just hope they release it soon..
hey it's babydude...hahaha
i don't know about SD and 1T....that is not an issue...i think chew here has tested that config with no problems if i remember correctly....SD also reports proper temps [YOU ARE WELCOME TO SEND OVER YOUR 2970MHz SD FOR TESTING IN MY Ulta BOARD :toast:]
it also seems that bios updates are better than BIOS13 (only problem introduced in bios15 is SLI crapping out because of some memory setting in bios which floods some temporary buffer)..............so not really as bad but certainly need a 1T fix, temp monitoring, voltage fix and add a few bios options all you DFI guys have for high HTT clocks with TCCD
what do you reckon we borrow Oscar for a couple of months hahahaha...but we want final release bioses that don't blow up 3GHz stable Venices :slapass:
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Originally Posted by babyelf
it does.. check what sampsa got.. sandiego + bh-5 1T won't run.. 2T runs fine
heh if they can get oskar back to a month.. this board will kick ass..
and no u're not getting my venice heh
:banana::banana::banana::banana: he does too.....donno chew i'm pretty sure tested it OK.....oh well it seems only claws and winchesters don't have that issue
don't worry about sending the venice....what about SD :slobber: :D
(might want to change the sig there unless you don't mind bootable 3GHz Venices too LOL) hopefully my WC works out OK so i can do some decent runs on it
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Originally Posted by babyelf
your watercooling is fine.. hope to see some good :banana::banana::banana::banana: from u... but thing is abit need to pull out something with their bios if they really want to stay in the game.. great stable board..
1.6 official soon?
I have a 3200 winchester and I have issues running 1T as well.. The system powers off during the Windows XP loading screen. I used to be able to run 1T using A64Tweaker after windows booted, but now I can't even do that. My system reboots when I try and disable 2T using A64Tweaker. It used to work fine.. It's weird because it worked fine during the Windows XP install.
I'm using 2 x 512MB PQI 3200 TCCD (2-2-2-5 rated). The SPD even specifies 1T, so when I set the DRAM options to "AUTO" or "By SPD" in the BIOS my system powers down during the XP loading screen. I have to force 2T to boot into XP. Maybe 1 in 10 boots will allow it to boot up into XP at 1T, and it's fine after that. Until I reboot that is..
I don't know what's changed to make it that I can't use 1T at all now. I just powered it on one day and loaded A64Tweaker, set 2T to disabled and it rebooted when I hit set.. I've used this process doezens of times before and it's been fine, but not anymore.. Does that every time now..
Seems like something is slowly dying...
Oh, and I should mention that this CPU and RAM have been running 1T with no problems in my MSI K8N Neo2 for almost 6 months prior to getting this Fatal1ty AN8 SLI..
Riley
what bios
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Originally Posted by Skud
Bios question:
What are the options cpu reference and ddr reference refer too? Is it a boost for the voltage? Or is it maybe to even out the voltage if the board over or under volts?
Sorry if its a newbish question.
Well i broke down and ordered me an an8 sli and some ocz pc3200 rev.2. SHould be here friday and i will post what problems i have with it if any.
Hey guys. I have been trying to keep up with this thread. I have to get a new motherboard and it is between this and the Asus Premium. I have a 3500 Venice and OCZ pc4800(TCC5 or TCCD). I have read something about needing to use 2T on the abit. So what mobo is best for me? Thanks.
Sorry, I should have remembered to include this..Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
The boaard shipped with 1.3. I Updated to 1.5 in the hopes it would fix the 1T boot issue. It did not. I could, however use A64Tweaker to set 1T while in Windows.
About 2 weeks into running 1.5 I was still unable to boot with 1T, and now couldn't even run 1T using A64Tweaker.
About 2 days ago I started using tictac's modded BIOS (which is based off of 1.3 I believe). I have not noticed anything different than with 1.5, or even the original 1.3 for that matter.
The system is still 100% stable as long as I run 2t. If I try to boot with 1T, my system powers down. If I try to set 1T with A64Tweaker, my system reboots (regardless of BIOS version).
Thanks!!
Riley
donno if new Asus board have fixed their 1T problem or not....there was a thread here where the guy went to 320MHz 1T but a lot of people were saying it was bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:...so you might have the same issue...abit is more flexible if you end up going UTT in future and there are more tweaks in bios.....Asus bios updates tend to take a hell of a lot longer than Abit so it's a hard one but slightly leaning Abit i think. DFI is good for TCCD RAM just be careful with bioses.....might be a bit of a pain in the ass to get it sweet that's another issue....hard choice dude
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Originally Posted by chunkylover77
if u want no issues with matured bioses i reckon the DFI..
i dunno about matured bioses with DFI. They release bios like every other week and their latest bios have issues too with voltages.
A matured bios wouldn't fry CPU's :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by babyelf
I dont think any one brand has the silver bullet of overclocking motherboards.
I think DFI could've if thier boards didnt have all the quirks they do.
I really think the quirkiness comes from the chipset. Generally, Abit's Intel offerings are excellent. But somehow their AMD boards aren't anything special.
yah i agree, it seems like intel chipsets are more stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
I like my an8 ultra, it does better than most nf4 boards imho, then again i havent tried the DFI, im too scured :para:
other than that one :pQuote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
but at least they release bioses frequently to fix problems
From what i hear it sounds like the new bioses fix one problem and create another? Atleast there are a number of bioses to try to resolve the different problems users have.Quote:
Originally Posted by babyelf
DFI has a 4 month head start......& there is not a hell of a lot in it
Dont worry, it wont take long for ABIT to fix everything up :) then maybe i can get a 28 sec SuperPI pass :toast:
Even if it has the 2T problem, i still think its better than the DFI, when i had problems with my DFI, it inhibited my OC greatly and forced me to run near stock, atleast with this board i can still run 2700Mhz with 245Mhz 2-2-2-7 :banana:
I am going to be in 28s territory as well.....[EDIT] Aokman you b1tch what's with the username
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Originally Posted by orig3n
Thought i would try something different :toast:
hahahahahaha......i like the avatar......is that relevant to anything
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Originally Posted by orig3n
Yeah that was my waterblock at -50c 6 months ago :woot: :toast:
ABIT AN8-Sli + OCZ Plat Rev 2 / Twinmos Winbond CH-5
Hi guys, I was to go for DFI NF4-SLi-D surely, but then I saw ABIT AN8-Sli :clap: and I just changed my mind.... well I just hope my current 3000 Winnie and new 3200 Venice will go good with above mentioned setup. Will get my things from a cousin whos flying down here from US (3 weeks to go).
With my limited cash I had to decide fast. Any thought, how to improve???
Nop I dont have any more Funds so nothing new for me for sometime..... :(
why changed mind ?
I did recieved my Abit AN8 Fatat1ly SLi yesterday, so I hope Abit will fix the T1 isseu becuase I plan to use it with my g.skill at T1. But maybe I'm lucky because I didn't orderd a SD or venice but a Toledo (X2 4800+ :O ). I can't want till I recieve my CPU and GFX (7800GTX :O )
that's going to be one hell of a setup...I don't remember anyone else using X2 CPUs so we are all very keen to see how you go
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Originally Posted by EvilWhiteDragon
you mean Fatality AN8 SLI.......cause this one has 3.55Vdimm yeah
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Originally Posted by harshal
non fatality AN8 SLI has 3.55vdimmt too.
I mean ABIT AN8-SLi (Non Fat) version .... yeah I know it has 3.55V option and thats why I opted for this. Another option was EPOX, which seems good but then I have Twinmos CH-5 and Corsair (Winbond-BH) based so I went with this one as it has igher VDIMM.
Also this one is bit better then DFI when it comes to High VDIMM.... I can say this after reading many VX going BAD and boot problems.
Bios : 16
Release information:
1. Change default setting of Cool n' Quiet to "Enable"
2. Change Full screen logo.
3. Cool n' Quiet now works as intended.
4. Fixed the issue that certain VGA card does not work with DVI output.
5. Fixed the issue that some 3D application may not run stable in SLi mode.
6. Change some item in DRAM voltage section.
7. Add AMD MCT2 version 1.3 support.
8. BIOS compiled date: 07/12/2005
Downloadlink:
ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/an8/an816.exe
Is there any point to using this bios if we dont have anything of the problems that are in the change log?
ya never know, they might have fixed other issues as well, but might have added others too... :(
if yours aint broken dont fix it... :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
I installed the new BIOS and...
OTES doesn't exist on my system anymore..
1) No OTES control in the BIOS
2) No OTES fan monitoring in the BIOS
3) OTES RPM reports as 0 in Abit EQ
So.. I don't know if they just took away the control, but the fans still function (mine aren't spinning right now), or if they disabled the fans completely..
So.. this is ummm.. great Abit..
Riley
some people have issues where if a fan isnt plugged into the cpu fan header, the board refuses to boot up. Besides with silent otes, i could care less about the stupid fan monitoring funtion. It is quite annoying to go in and disable everything which most people do anyways.
soo umm 1T still a problem? SLI still a problem?
compile date is 7/12. So took them only three days of testing? Scary, no? But then again, wat else are the end users good for besides being guinea pigs? :banana:
I got my Fatal1ty AN8-SLI yesterday. After some problems with the board booting up with the message "Working in fail safe state" no matter what settings i used the AN8 is up and running. All it needed was a good old CMOS Reset.
Right now im running 291*9 DDR333 2-2-2-5 1T (RAM @ 237Mhz) on a 3000+ Venice. This is with shipping BIOS 1.3
Seems like a nice mobo .. I might even get another one for my surfing/gaming rig.
anyone tested this bios yet.....i am on std air until tomorrow so eagerly awaiting some initial results
have you memtested this at test#8
try the FX55 is you've still got it
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Originally Posted by Formann
how are the abit an8 ultra(non fatality) overclocking..if i get an amd setup this is the board im getting(screw dfi too problematic)
and the abit an8 ultra has 3.5vdimm right?
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Originally Posted by dinos22
I haven´t tried memtest yet, just Prime95 and Super-pi 16m. Im working my way up .. but im already at 1.6vcore, so I have to drop the multi very soon. 2.6-2.65 is probably the max with this 3000+. Its an LBBLE 0519CPFW.
Im going to run some memtest tomorrow.
I sold my last FX. It did 2.7 semi stable with water cooling. Worst FX ever made im sure. I do have a nice San Diego 3700+ tho. Does 2850Mhz @ stock vcore on air - Boxed Winchester cooler. Im going to give it a run tomorrow :)
BTW: Just got through 16m @ 295 HTT .. RAM @ 241.5Mhz.
good work on 1T and all too...nice....you have a serious SD there might.....give that a shot right away.....hehehehehe
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Originally Posted by Formann
they are good and have 3.55Vdimm yes...undervolts to 3.45V tho so that's what you will be working with...check out my thread here
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=384427
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Originally Posted by calcal
yes it has 3.5. Its pretty much the same as the sli, without.....well the sliQuote:
Originally Posted by calcal
:D
thanks a lot dino! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
edit: ahhh i need an acc to see it
Dont bother flashing to bios 16!
The new VDIMM limit is 3.4v :slap:
1T Issue still remains :slap:
Cool&Quiet on by default :slap:
ABIT = :slapass:
Hmm... this is not good... Abit, we need IMPROVEMENTS !
great use of slap/ass smilies
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Originally Posted by orig3n
guys i need feedback on this bios to update my sticky over at Abit USA so pls do test them against some of the original suggestions and let's see what was fixed if anything......and what other problems this BIOS creates
my stick for reference: http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...threadid=86928
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Originally Posted by dinos22
Well i can´t overclock unless i UNDERCLOCK my RAM... BAD PIECE OF WORK ABIT! :slapass:
Anyone else had the same luck?
Going back to TicTac 13R1 Bios :)
Id love to post but i cant reach the website lol, i should try Tictacs bios :)
My bad....yes vdimm has been reduced to 3.40v
3.5 or 3.55
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Originally Posted by bugeyes
I must need glasses....seems my vdimm has been reduced to 3.40v on bios 16.
Oh dinos what volts are you running through your TCCD?
LOL can you check 1T think as well LOL
i sold my TCCD but ran them at 2.9V
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Originally Posted by bugeyes
yes I can definitely run 1T 1:1 @ 285MHz.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
but the important bit of info I just discovered was my TCCD performs better @ 1T with the vdimm @ 2.65v any higher and it starts to error out in memtest... #8
going to do some more testing, I've got feeling the DDR VTT voltage setting has something to do with it as well.... I've been leaving set @ DDR/2
I'm going to try the DDR VTT @ 1.3v and DDR SDRAM @ 2.8
Great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by bugeyes
Although, I still did not post in this thread I've been following it for a long time since Im looking for a board to OC...and ABIT AN8 Ultra seemed to be the right choice...however I was concerned with the 1T issue.
Currently, I also have asus A8N Premium which is also quite nice but limited by the Vcore...and my cpu is asking for more :p:
cheers to all
I just want them to fix the 1T issue with UTT BH-5 so i can take on the DFI boards @ superPI :stick:
Anyone has a AN8 with OCZ EB memory modules? i´m having some trouble with them... somehow my Geil Value does run better :|
Im sorry to say this but, it seems the 1T problem is not BIOS related. Im running 260+ 2-2-2-5 1T as we speak. Super-pi 32m and prime stable. This is with shipping BIOS v1.3Quote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
Im gonna save the BIOS im using, and upload it to a FTP. That way all of you ppl having problems with running 1T can give it a try. I would be surprised if it did anything good for you, but its worth a try atleast.
BTW: If all this MOBO can do is 3.45v .. why don´t they edit the BIOS option (3.55v) to read 3.45 instead??
I dont get it .. why design the BIOS while drunk?! 3.45 and 3.55 .. there is a slight, but rather clear differerence.
/me :slap: Abit ..
So, this means that it is possible that is an hardware issue? Related with CPU or board?Quote:
Originally Posted by Formann
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Originally Posted by =Pseudo=
Im not an expert, but to me it seems so. Im running 260+ 1T with venice.. no problems with stability.
The strange thing is, that it seems its only a problem when running a Venice. That indicates a BIOS issue, and not HW.
But then again.. why am I running 240+ 1T with Venice when others are having problems @ >225-230 ?
The feeling I get when overclocking this MOBO is the same as when overclocking the good old NF7 .. it just acts strange. Every time I boot it seems the board is acting different.
Venice @ 260MHz 2-2-2-11-1TQuote:
Originally Posted by Formann
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2365/337s2qo.jpg
Voltage Setting
http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vdimm6pa.jpg
Memory Timing Setting
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dddet7xb.jpg
Is that bios 13 tictac?
Bios16 still have the problem setting the Read to Write Delay at 4 even u set at any other numbers.
Seconded? I am running a 0517 Venice and i dont understand what the problem is, unless there is a critical settings that we are all missing out on :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
If is use 230 or higher i get tons of errors at TEST #8 no matter what voltage i feed into the ram.
tictac the pics of voltage settings is not from BIOS13........or my version of this BIOS13 doesn't look like that....the Ref voltage setting looks different there
also that 1M SuperPI time is too slow for 1T.....he should be under 30s.....i almost beat that score with 2T and RAM at 239Mhz (CPU - 2875MHz...links provided below)....something's not right there dude
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Originally Posted by tictac
HERE IS WHAT MY VOLTAGE SETTINS LOOK LIKE
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/1163/dsc018212ln.jpg
HERE IS MY 2T RUN at 2875MHz and RAM at 239MHz
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/4...z1mutt2395.jpg
I tried all tictacs settings except the 466 ram divider and i still get errors, what the hell is going on with these mainboards :slapass:
Not wrong there, i pulled 29.6s with 2930Mhz and only 243Mhz 2-2-2-7 2TQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
@Delirious,dinos22
im quite sure it was 1T and bios 13...
@orig3n
my venice is also 0517, i gues mem running at high fsb and lower didnt really matter on super pi right?total its more like it :)
same here 29.641s 2929MHz
I am on Bios 14 ATM (but those screenshots in my previous post are from BIOS13)....flashing back to 13 as soon as i put my PC 2gether today or tomorrow....have to mod the case to fit water in there
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Originally Posted by orig3n
Ok heres some weird stuff. I was getting ready to rma the board so I put it and my sandy under D/I. Unfortunately it has a cold bug at anything below -45c sooooo it was kinda a wasted effort. maxx i got out of it was 3.0 gig but i already knew the cpu was a dogg. What is weird is the fact that after i let the board dry out in the heat (its been like 95F in RI lately) 2 problems i had went away. 1 my floppy ide came back from the dead and now i can run memtest again. 2 I was having a problem when my comp went into sleep mode and shut monitor off ( it wouldnt wake up i think it put the hard drive in hibernate even though i had it disabled in windows) this problem has also dissapeared......So now i guess i cant rma the board.
who says you cant? just tell them your board is having random problems for no apparent reason. Obviously somethings wrong, it just doesnt come and go like that.
have your OC results differed at all from BIOS13---->BIOS14....I think i remember situman's did...anyone elses
Damn you've got Cathar's Storm G5 :eek: .....dude you've got to push that Venice more...it's compulsory for such a high end WC block :D
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Originally Posted by situman
entertaining sh1t :woot:
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Originally Posted by chew*
Does bios 14 work better than 15. I cant use 13 cause it wont let me boot into or install windows whenever i flash to it.
Anyone care to share? (bios 14)
download it off Abit's website
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Originally Posted by Delirious
Well I would, but one board is in RMA. And I sold the other ( I had two if you were wondering). Waiting for the RMA to come back. It powered down on its own due to mem timings and high HTT and it never booted again no matter what I did. Probably gonna sell it when it comes back from RMA too. Probably just gonna wait for crossfire.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
And G5, yea well dont wanna kill my chip with excessive volts too. Venice doesnt seem to react too well to watercooling or maybe its just the board holding me back. Who knows.
I'm considering getting this AN8 Ultra, DFI Ultra-D being my first choice initially. I have a pair of OCZ PC4000 VX GOLD - UTT. Plan on doing 250-2-2-2-5-1T.
Now, does anyone think that this board is ready? I hear here and there people are having BIOS issues, and there is perhaps something about memory table issue as i read in the review? what can people tell me.
My criteria is stability, silence, then performance.
What interests me in this board is simply SILENT. Feedback much appreciated,thanks.
A quick thought guys, what ram slots are you using? i am using 3/4 and have the 1T issue, i wonder if that could be related?
I found out why my board kepy dying aswell LOL, when i have my aquagated mounted down too tight it causes the board to run unstable and go into a 04 error :stick:
i had issues with std heatsink as it mounts too tight and extra bend on the board made it not post.....back on water real tight and no problems....weird
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Originally Posted by orig3n