MUSHKIN REDLINE XP4000 sneak peek...

I have tried altering the idle cycle limit from 16 to 256, the LTD/FSB to 3x instead of 4x, the 0.03v enabled instead of disabled, drive strengths of 7 and 1 and 8 instead of auto all at 250Mhz with various voltages from 3.3v to 3.5v. Timings have been adjusted with TRAS 6. The system refused to get to the "updating bios" part of the bootup and sometimes refused to restart with constant beeping noises. Out of curiosity I tried 245Mhz which reached memtest which then gave tens of thousands of errors on test 5. I then put it back on 240Mhz and I was fine again.

have you tried reflashing your bios?

reflashed to 618-2 which caused a runtime error and the detection of a new unknown device which I promptly erased from the device manager. The only advantage of this new version is there is a new BIOS setting where I can select fast, fastest and something else.
I have tried Jiff's timings, timings seen from various postings, the timings used in the official review and its the same.

wow those are some gosu sticks of ram. i had a good experience with the old lvl2 bh5's, perhaps when i go dothan ill pick up a set of these.

I have a pair of these Mushkin's. I have been reading that BF2 really enjoys 2gb of ram instead of 1gb but the double edge sword of OCing with 2x1gb or 4x512mb is not as good as 2x512mb. All of this info I have gotten from this forum and a few others such as anandtech and hardocp. What it looks like is that I am damned if I do and damned if I dont. So should I stick with what I got, buy 2 more 512mb sticks and run 4x512mb, or get rid of this awesome mushkin memory or use in another system and buy a pair of 2x1gb?


You advice is appreciated.


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Thanks to this link I will be buying two more sticks of 512mb Mushkin Redline PC4000. Thanks guys.

How in hell did you get them to 275? I'm pumping 3.7 though mine on a NF3 Ultra-D and they won't go over 260HTT x11/x3, and don't work with any of the the dividers except 100, help me dude. F*** this, i'm getting a NF4...

yeah, you really need nf4 to make the big numbers!

C

Which Nf4 would be best?? I guess i'll go SLI soon anyways. Any suggestions?

hi,

Do you have notice any trouble running async mode with the redline ???

I did, on my Nf3 ultra-d, it wouldn't run on any divider.. past 260HTT any timing, any voltage, any multipler. Wat NF4 board should i get DFI NF4 SLI-DR? I don't wanna do the sli mod for the nf4 ultra-d.

i just got the redline 4000 and they are doing 265 with 3.3v on a neo2 plat with booster they run better than my 3200vx which could only do 250. no burn in or anything pretty good memory

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Originally Posted by bronx_klokr

i just got the redline 4000 and they are doing 265 with 3.3v on a neo2 plat with booster they run better than my 3200vx which could only do 250. no burn in or anything pretty good memory

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those are very good sticks

Anyone got them 290 ? :=)

well im guessing that my board is the limit on these cause i think the booster does not give more than 3.4 v i dont have a multi but thats what im thinking anyway 265 with 3.3v is not bad just cant go higher on the neo 2plat.

Mine are great! Running 270 2-2-2-5 3.5v with fairly loose other timings. No errors in tests 5/8 in memstest and stable in windows D2OLing. Will be doing benchies for Grandprix so i've been holding out =)

what a ram

I hoped that I could reach 270 with these XP4000 sticks but not yet... maybe later 267@3.6v

Can someone please type down some good memsettings för my redline? Need to know everything. Today i reach around 260mhz in 1,5-2-2-5 with 3,6V.

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Can someone please type down some good memsettings för my redline? Need to know everything. Today i reach around 260mhz in 1,5-2-2-5 with 3,6V.

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lol there are loads of setting in this thread. read through it :p:

these stix are great but like i said with neo 2 around 3.5v is the limit cause the mem wont clock higher as of now im running them 10x265(newcastle) neo2 plat at 2-2-2-5
with a moded bios that fixes some ram settings when i first got these chips they were able to do cas 1.5 now my pc just locks up when i try to set it very weird i wanna upgrade to a nf4 but the dfi is very buggy what about the abit with the 3.55v option

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these stix are great but like i said with neo 2 around 3.5v is the limit cause the mem wont clock higher as of now im running them 10x265(newcastle) neo2 plat at 2-2-2-5
with a moded bios that fixes some ram settings when i first got these chips they were able to do cas 1.5 now my pc just locks up when i try to set it very weird i wanna upgrade to a nf4 but the dfi is very buggy what about the abit with the 3.55v option

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are they 500pass memtest #5 stable on 265mhz 3.3v?

the have passed 150 times of test #5 with no problem

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the have passed 150 times of test #5 with no problem

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you do have good sticks there bro :clap:

now the weird thing that is happening is if i shut the pc of completly when i turn it on i have to take out one stick boot a cas 2.5 then turn it off but no from the power supply only from the power button and then i set it to cas 2 and it all works fine again until i shut it of again . problem already with them and with the vx i never had a problem running them at 3.3v up to 255mhz maybe time for a rma and i didnt even have them for more than a week and i have 2 fans on them

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I have a pair of these Mushkin's. I have been reading that BF2 really enjoys 2gb of ram instead of 1gb but the double edge sword of OCing with 2x1gb or 4x512mb is not as good as 2x512mb. All of this info I have gotten from this forum and a few others such as anandtech and hardocp. What it looks like is that I am damned if I do and damned if I dont. So should I stick with what I got, buy 2 more 512mb sticks and run 4x512mb, or get rid of this awesome mushkin memory or use in another system and buy a pair of 2x1gb?


You advice is appreciated.


EDIT

Thanks to this link I will be buying two more sticks of 512mb Mushkin Redline PC4000. Thanks guys.

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BF2 from what i understand needed a patch which was suppose to fix high memory usage, the patch came out and from what i hear it's been a disaster as far as memory leakage is concerned. This is told to me from a friend who has the game and has been reading on these issues.

okay I managed to get 270mhz 2-2-2-5 stable 3.6v but I can't get 275mhz for the life of me....any tips?

Something interesting....with my old style bh-5, they lovd anything up to 3.6v. However, anything over that they would error out. I figured I had bad sticks.

Now, on my new redline, no surprise they LOVE voltage up to 3.6, but the instant I enable +.03v or go to 3.7 bam errors galore.

WTF is going on?

computerpro3: maybe other bios ? , burning needed ?

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okay I managed to get 270mhz 2-2-2-5 stable 3.6v but I can't get 275mhz for the life of me....any tips?

Something interesting....with my old style bh-5, they lovd anything up to 3.6v. However, anything over that they would error out. I figured I had bad sticks.

Now, on my new redline, no surprise they LOVE voltage up to 3.6, but the instant I enable +.03v or go to 3.7 bam errors galore.

WTF is going on?

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Bad VTT is my guess...not much you can do about that, it's luck of the draw I guess.

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Originally Posted by computerpro3

Something interesting....with my old style bh-5, they lovd anything up to 3.6v. However, anything over that they would error out. I figured I had bad sticks.

Now, on my new redline, no surprise they LOVE voltage up to 3.6, but the instant I enable +.03v or go to 3.7 bam errors galore.

WTF is going on?

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I know that problem... up to 3.5V is okay, everything higher than that ain't stable and errors out. Seems to the mem controller, maybe?!

I dunno. Maybe the RAM as well... :shrug:

not the cpu, happened with 3500claw and 3700 sandy.

How would I measure and correct bad vtt? I can solder...

Read through here for VTT info...

Anyone tried the 4000's on the DFI NF3 UT 250gb w/ a vdimm-modded Bios? Also, how much voltage are they typically requiring to run at 250?

3.3v might get you to 250mHz... how much can you deliver, 3.2v??

C

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Originally Posted by charlie

3.3v might get you to 250mHz... how much can you deliver, 3.2v??

C

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If I can figure out how to adjust my 3.3v rail, up to 4.0v.

Hi everybody :toast:

I am gonna buy these mushkins at the end of the week (i hope)... i have just a few questions:

-Noone guarantee me that they are gonna reach 270 at 3.4V/3.5V no?? but i have a high chance to be able to do that no?

-Every pack should do 250 cas2-2-2-5 at 3.3V no? if it doesnt i can RMA them or give them back to the store, am i right?

And the last thing, with a pack of OCZ EL PLAT rev2 v1.0 (TCCD) I reached 270x10 cas2.5-3-4-7 with 1.48V. I have a bit of fear to not be able to run the UTT-BH (or are they UTT-CH? ) higher than 250 (thats the higher fsb i could reached with my Mushkin UTT, also they reached that at 3.6V, too much i know). The thing is i doubt about my memo controller, i know is very good for TCCD (310 be able to reached) but i have no idea how it will do with UTT...

Thats all, thanks everybody and sorry for my bad english (from spain what do you spect :p: )

See you

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Hi everybody :toast:

I am gonna buy these mushkins at the end of the week (i hope)... i have just a few questions:

-Noone guarantee me that they are gonna reach 270 at 3.4V/3.5V no?? but i have a high chance to be able to do that no?

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270mhz is only Pifast stable with my sticks...
so you could say they´ll reach 270mhz, but propably not stable.

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-Every pack should do 250 cas2-2-2-5 at 3.3V no? if it doesnt i can RMA them or give them back to the store, am i right?

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most sticks will do 250mhz at 3,3V.

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And the last thing, with a pack of OCZ EL PLAT rev2 v1.0 (TCCD) I reached 270x10 cas2.5-3-4-7 with 1.48V. I have a bit of fear to not be able to run the UTT-BH (or are they UTT-CH? ) higher than 250 (thats the higher fsb i could reached with my Mushkin UTT, also they reached that at 3.6V, too much i know). The thing is i doubt about my memo controller, i know is very good for TCCD (310 be able to reached) but i have no idea how it will do with UTT...

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if you can reach 270mhz with tccd than you´ll probably be able to clock higher than 250mhz with the redlines.
its utt-ch5 by the way..

ok thanks for the anwers ;)

What do you recommend me?? Redline pc4000 or Gskill BHpc3200 (225€ vs 195€)?

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ok thanks for the anwers ;)

What do you recommend me?? Redline pc4000 or Gskill BHpc3200 (225€ vs 195€)?

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GeIL ONE BH
- Certified PC4000 2-2-2-5
- Guaranteed till 3,8V

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Originally Posted by Punisher!

GeIL ONE BH
- Certified PC4000 2-2-2-5
- Guaranteed till 3,8V

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The problem with them, when are they gonna be out?? i mean, here in Spain i cannot find them yet.. by the way they look like the Redline no?? pc4000 2-2-2-5 (at what vdimm?). I saw the thread about them, they look awesome by the way... but what about de price?

IMO, the best UTT based RAM rightnow is the RedlineXP4K. I wonder if the GEIL ONE-S is gonna be better.

Mushkin redline:
274 MHz

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Originally Posted by zaba1978

Mushkin redline:
274 MHz

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HMMM 1.5-3-2-5

i may have to try that. thanks!

oh nice results too. what voltage via DMM?

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HMMM 1.5-3-2-5

i may have to try that. thanks!

oh nice results too. what voltage via DMM?

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Voltage 3,7V :mad:

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Voltage 3,7V :mad:

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via DMM or set in bios?

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Originally Posted by stealth17

via DMM or set in bios?

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So exactly set in bios.My setup 24/7:


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/302/77kv.jpg

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So exactly set in bios.My setup 24/7:

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fdi bios overvolts vdimm .1v too. so if its set in bios at 3.7v, your actually giving them 3.8v :(

Can someone post the complete set of timings for this babes plz? I am asking this because I had OCZ VX and my Winnie 3200+ did 2500 in dual channel and with this babes it passes memtest without errors in 2600 fsb but to run windows I can't pass 2300!!! OMG!

Even if I lower the multi to 7, this babes wont run in windows is htt is higher then 230.


By the away, this happanes in my DFI ultra-D using the 4v rail! Bios version is 623-2 (most stable as I was told).

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Originally Posted by MonkSP

Can someone post the complete set of timings for this babes plz? I am asking this because I had OCZ VX and my Winnie 3200+ did 2500 in dual channel and with this babes it passes memtest without errors in 2600 fsb but to run windows I can't pass 2300!!! OMG!

Even if I lower the multi to 7, this babes wont run in windows is htt is higher then 230.


By the away, this happanes in my DFI ultra-D using the 4v rail! Bios version is 623-2 (most stable as I was told).

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read through the thread. there are tons a timings people posted...

just look up a couple posts at post 745 and theres a whole list of timings already

I used all the settings posted there but this is still bugging me

It runs perfectly on memtest but when I tried to load up windows it just rebbots. With every setting that is posted there!

Again, it runs memtest perfectly at 250 htt ovber and over, but when I turn memtest off and try to load up windows I get rebboted over and over.

My new Redline XP4000

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God, this is damn fast.

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Originally Posted by Punisher!

GeIL ONE BH
- Certified PC4000 2-2-2-5
- Guaranteed till 3,8V

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IMO the Redline will clock higher overall than the Geil.
G.Skill which makes damm fine products would be my choice for BH utt. However, they tend to clock on average 10mhz or so lower than the Redline. Doesn't mean every Redline kit will do 270, but enough do to show that Mushkin has the recepie for success.

I'm noticing the recent posts seem to be focusing on high voltages to the Redline's - 3.6 to 3.7V.

Word of caution to all - I pumped my 3.3V rail to 3.6V and ran 2gigs of the the Redline 4000's with an FX57 (1.525V), nF4 SLI-DR, OCZ Powerstream 520W and the board and memory got fried after a few hours of gaming. The ram had a direct 80mm fan on it. I was using the 720 bios (with no vid special used). I had the system at 3Ghz (250x12).

I'm not the most experienced OC'er but I can tell you don't play with the high voltages past 3.6V on your 3.3V rail even if you think your memory can handle 3.6-3.7V. Lucklily I could RMA both but I hope no one else here experiences the same.

The new Redline's arrived about 4 days ago with no heatspreaders compared to the previous. There are about 5 grooves on the top with holes that let air out the top of the ram stick - pretty slick!