Removing the A64 IHS

Eh..I just popped the IHS off my 165, and I am running into a lot of problems. With the IHS on I was hitting the low 60's with both the AMD heatsink, and my Zalman 7000B. I used several different installs of AS5, and I assure you it was appiled right.

So I knocked off the IHS, except my temps are exactly the same. I've tried multiple mounts, and used silly putty, and electric tape to try to get a more stable mount with the 7000B. It seems that no matter what I do at this point I can't bring my temps below 60c. My lidless Venice ran everyday at 2.8/1.6v, and never once hit above 50c.

There are a couple of things. When I took off the IHS I completely tore off a capictator from the core. The chip still works, but something tells me that broken capicatotor is causing more voltage to be sent cpu. This would explain the high temps, and that fact that the 7000B "seems" to making good contact with the core. I can't be to sure however, and after 6 hours of testing I'm to tired to even realize it anyway.

The chip has potential too. I got a 3.0ghz validation screen just before 80c temps crashed the system. :(

What I need for you guru's is someone expriences with the 7000B, and a lidless X2. Also if the broken cacpitotir is the cause of my problems. I'm really thinking that the problem is just I can't get a good mount with the cpu.

I think the best option is to just replace the HSF, but the lack of bolt-through heatsinks limits my options. I'd love some help.

Well one, of course the chip's gonna run hotter, it's dual core. :doh:

Second, the 7000B is an Athlon XP era heatsink. I suggest investing in a Thermaltake Big Typhoon. :)

Third, I honestly don't know how people take off SMD's when they pop IHS'. Idk if some peoples are loose or what but if your blade stops, pull it out a bit and try to continue.

All in all, I'm glad to hear the chip still works. Good job dude :up:. I doubt the SMD you took off increased vcore BTW.

Good luck in finding a heatsink! The TT Big Typhoon IS bolt throu btw, and is quite easy to mount.

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Originally Posted by NickS

Well one, of course the chip's gonna run hotter, it's dual core. :doh:

Second, the 7000B is an Athlon XP era heatsink. I suggest investing in a Thermaltake Big Typhoon. :)

Third, I honestly don't know how people take off SMD's when they pop IHS'. Idk if some peoples are loose or what but if your blade stops, pull it out a bit and try to continue.

All in all, I'm glad to hear the chip still works. Good job dude :up:. I doubt the SMD you took off increased vcore BTW.

Good luck in finding a heatsink! The TT Big Typhoon IS bolt throu btw, and is quite easy to mount.

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It's quite easy actually. Just a quick swipe with the blade, and it came off pretty easily.

I knew the opty would run hotter, but man it's like night, and day between my venice and my 144.
I see...Big typhoon in my future.

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Originally Posted by NickS

Well one, of course the chip's gonna run hotter, it's dual core. :doh:

Second, the 7000B is an Athlon XP era heatsink. I suggest investing in a Thermaltake Big Typhoon. :)

Third, I honestly don't know how people take off SMD's when they pop IHS'. Idk if some peoples are loose or what but if your blade stops, pull it out a bit and try to continue.

All in all, I'm glad to hear the chip still works. Good job dude :up:. I doubt the SMD you took off increased vcore BTW.

Good luck in finding a heatsink! The TT Big Typhoon IS bolt throu btw, and is quite easy to mount.

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Big Typhoons are great for IHSless CPUs.

It's very easy to cut of the SMDs. It's also very easy to slice through your thumb and thumbnail with the razor if you're not careful.


I wasn't careful once. It hurt alot.

I have never damaged any SMDs, and I don't really see how so many people do it... :confused: If you're unsure about how deep you can cut, look at a picture or a diagram to get an idea. When you find out just how deep to cut, it's only a matter of firmly pushing it around the IHS. Just watch out for the small gap on one side.

Just popped the IHS off my 165, before I wasn't able to run more than 1.425 vCore without overwhelming my cooling. Now I'm able to run 1.575 :D trying for 3.0ghz stable now.

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Originally Posted by halo112358

Just popped the IHS off my 165, before I wasn't able to run more than 1.425 vCore without overwhelming my cooling. Now I'm able to run 1.575 :D trying for 3.0ghz stable now.

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Congratz :D . Even though I lowered my temps 20-25c, it didn't bring my 24/7 100% stable overclock any further. When it comes to benching it got me a LOT further. In your case you should be able to get further I reckon :toast:

:woot: 3ghz stable on air with 1.525v and some room to spare :D hopefully I'll be able to do 3.1+ on water.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/91/3ghzvalid0bt.png

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9...m203ghz6hk.png

what the hell? i went to remove the IHS on my a64 3700+ and managed to. Guess what? Instead of getting lower temps they sky rocketed to around 60c and now i cant keep it at 2.6 ghz @ 1.52v anymore. I'm running @ stock or it gets too hot (im using a zalman 9500 cps) my advice is to ignore everyone here and never remove the IHS on your cpus. Nice, now my cpu runs hotter.

Well, theeeee...
I'm more than sure that the contact with the HS it's not very good. :slap:

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Originally Posted by korby

Well, theeeee...
I'm more than sure that the contact with the HS it's not very good. :slap:

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probaly not but i can't make it better than what it is with the zalman cps 9500.

Great!

I cut IHS off today and it brought 10 degrees cooler 100% load temps!

Now priming at 3 Ghz (which previously was no go)

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/975...cae3500zc2.jpg

I could not resist and i popped mine as well...all went good ...the temp is now 2-3C lower in idle and 5-6C in load..not bad...

The problem is that i tried remount the Ihs this morning...i put AC5 on the core and i used superglue ...temps over 40C in idle and the pc restarts...i tried again with no name thermal paste putting a little more for better contact but it was worse...bsod and high temps...:(
Now i took out again the Ihs and its like before ..ok
The thing is that i would like to sell this Opty after some time ,so if you could give me a tip about remountaining the Ihs and get the normall temps back ..:)

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Originally Posted by IHSremover

probaly not but i can't make it better than what it is with the zalman cps 9500.

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So put a dab of thermal paste on the die and stick the IHS back on.

duh :P

lol. i fried my cpu.

Basicly the A64 is protected against overheating right? When u turn your computer on it just switches off when u don't apply a heatsink?

Well i had my first run with watercooling, dual 120MM radiator, Enheim pump, dangerden waterblock etc, i had to make some serious adjustments to make the block fit cause the IHS was removed. I made it work and it runned just fine for a week, when i removed all the parts to check my watercooling-setup for dirt. When i plugged that stuff back on it somehow did not make good contact with the CPU-core (yet the stupid adjustment i made..) and when i turned it on i could hear a static noise / same sound when u make some sparks with electricity.

Basicly my CPU was fried. Everything else worked perfectly but the CPU died lol.

I've learned now that only with a good reason, i'll remove the IHS. That Protection with overheating will not work nomore without a IHS, proberly cause a IHS offers a small amount of time for the CPU to shutdown.

I ordered other stuff btw :cool: X2 3800+ Am2, 2GB Corsair ddr2 dc (pc6400 CL4), x1950pro and a Nforce 5 motherboard.

Im thinking of removing my IHS right now as well :D Does anyone know if the classic apogee will need any modifications to fit right? Someone said the storm didnt, and Im hopin that Im just as lucky with my apogee

Just popped the top on my 4400 X2! Will post pics once I get it installed and running :D disposable razor blades make it sooo easy. I destroyed a mach3 replacement just to learn they are not wide enough! My moms cheap pink leg razor did the trick tho :D Shoulda seen her face when I told her what I was gonna do with it haha


*Idle temps dropped 4C and load temps have dropped 14C so far. Tryin to find cable so I can upload pics :/

I popped the lid on my opty175 (ccbbe 0617EPMW), and I shaved 4 degrees off of idle temps (31*C now...my ambient is about 27), but was able to clip almost 15*C off of load temps (41*C). I had no way of hitting 3ghz on air.... but now that I can jump the voltage, I am OCCTing at 3.0 and its looking like I'll make the half hour mark with temps @ 49*C @ 1.52v...prime is up next and if I can pass 12hrs...I will try backing the voltage down a lil bit at a time.

cooling is a TR120 ultra with FM121 (at 12v) and as5...

Hi, i removed the IHS on a San Diego some time ago 3700+... At the Moment i have an X² 3800+ Toledo but i don´t wanna finally take the IHS off, only to swap the thermal paste . Does it make sense to put some AS5 thermal paste under my IHS?

question:

would infinity fit ok on ASUS M2N SLI DLX on my BRISBANE X2 3600+ ??? naked of course...

Hello Xtreme Systems!

Just removed my IHS from my A64 3200+, and well it gives in idle only 4'c lower temps than ihs in cpu but load temps wont go over old idle temps..

IHS in CPU (2201Mhz, 220FSB, 1.45v) :
- Idle : 37'c
- Load : 45'c

IHS removed from CPU (2201Mhz, 220FSB, 1.45v)
- Idle : 33'c
- Load : 37'c

Max Overclock IHS Installed :
- 2400Mhz, 240FSB, 1.6v

Max Overclock IHS Removed :
- 2500Mhz, 250FSb, 1.50v

I could not get more far because my motherboard is the limiting factor and it sucks anyway for overclocking ( MSI K8N SLI-FI )

Also i dont know why but my Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 memory runs fine at 470Mhz DDR memory speed with settings of 2.5 3 3 7, anything over it starts give memory errors in memtest and in many programs, maybe i got lucky sticks!

EDIT : Oh yeah forgot my cpu exact id is ADA3200DAA4BW LBBWE 0550FPMW

So I finally got the balls to remove my amd 3800x2 IHS...

idle temps = 70 degs

Guess who forgot to buy thermal paste :shrug:

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Originally Posted by IHSremover

what the hell? i went to remove the IHS on my a64 3700+ and managed to. Guess what? Instead of getting lower temps they sky rocketed to around 60c and now i cant keep it at 2.6 ghz @ 1.52v anymore. I'm running @ stock or it gets too hot (im using a zalman 9500 cps) my advice is to ignore everyone here and never remove the IHS on your cpus. Nice, now my cpu runs hotter.

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right .... did you sand the mounts ( brackets ) cuz otherwise they are made for cpu's WITH ihs, you have to sand the plastic down.

Thread revival :D

I mean to remove the IHS from my 165 but I won't if I can't find a way to mount the XP-90C without crushing it.

I have a shim I popped off a Radeon 9500 or 9700 back in the days, I've checked the size and it will fit my CPU just right and I'm thinking of glueing it onto my 165. I should remove the black stuff under the IHS first, then what could I use to stick the shim? Generic superglue? Silicone? Hotglue? The less thick the better, because I don't know how tall the core is.

Do you think it's doable?

Took about 5 minutes and a steady hand.

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Oh by the way I eventually did take out the IHS and put the shim on, here are a couple of pics :D

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...16194037_1.jpg

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/...16194152_4.jpg

In the second picture there is normal Ceramique on the core, now I use liquid metal paste on it. Thanks to the mod I've turned the vcore down from 1.475 V to 1.4 V, temperatures are about 12° C lower, that leaves more room for overclocking :eek: :D

Geezus reading this thread again makes me wanna pop the hood of my X2 3800+ :D

I might do some serious adjustments before i pop off.... Lowering the bracket for example.

Is removing IHS can help coldbug problem?

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Originally Posted by paganini

Is removing IHS can help coldbug problem?

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No, it can't.

People in here are trying to remove the IHS and replace the paste with some AS5. Let me tell you that AS5 wont fit the IHS noways. You can test this by putting something on it, and fit the IHS without glue back on. See if it left any Paste at all on your IHS, if not, you know what i'm talking about.

Since i coud'nt hit 2800MHz for some reason, but hit 340MHz HTT and 550MHZ / 3-3-3-9 speeds (DDR2) my CPU stuck at 2.6GHz is kinda whack. I'm considering to remove the IHS, but i've got a pretty much old batch (65W / 3800+ X2) and i saw some doompics in here on soldered IHS onto the core, and with removal it destroyed it totally. Would i be safe? And i saw putting loadbalancers on your die-package would smaller the chance of your core getting chrused, i have a zalman 9500 LED n stuff. When the case is in it's side, it would defenitly crush the core by hanging on the side, u know?

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Originally Posted by lism

i saw some doompics in here on soldered IHS onto the core, and with removal it destroyed it totally. Would i be safe? And i saw putting loadbalancers on your die-package would smaller the chance of your core getting chrused, i have a zalman 9500 LED n stuff. When the case is in it's side, it would defenitly crush the core by hanging on the side, u know?

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I don't know about cores being ripped off the PCB, the only one I saw was maybe an old socket 754 CPU.

A shim will totally reduce the risk of crushing the core, I've had it that way for more than six months by now without issues. I have a XP-90C with a 92 mm Tornado, a 9500 LED is definitely lighter, if the heatsink is well tightened you shouldn't crush stuff unless you start kicking the case :D

peel the IHS like your peeling an apple ;)